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tildes
Nov 16, 2018

Ccs posted:

Hello thread, so I have a book out, Order of the Magi! It’s free to grab this weekend on Amazon. Thread regular Leng was a beta-reader for it and seemed to like it, and I've since tightened it up based on their suggestions, so it should be a brisk and enjoyable read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092CHN6S6/



20% in so far and definitely going to finish this, congrats on the release!

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Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


tildes posted:

20% in so far and definitely going to finish this, congrats on the release!

Thanks so much! :)

General Battuta posted:

It's not a race!! Best of luck with the launch, CCS, that's a fantastic cover.

Thanks man, that means a lot! :) yeah it’s definitely not a race. My book is much lighter and, to put it mildly, less ambitious than what the Baru books are striving for. If you want to read the best in fantasy, read Baru. If you like fun stories about wizards that make some comparatively light criticism of institutions and genre tropes then maybe my book is for you. And also, why not both?

I did find it funny that we’re currently up against each other on Reddit though :p

Ccs fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 17, 2021

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

Follow me for more books on special!
A Man of His Word: The Complete Series by Dave Duncan - $3.99
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eke out
Feb 24, 2013




that cover is cool as hell, it looks like the kind of thing you remember seeing as a kid (in a good way)

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Ccs posted:

Hello thread, so I have a book out, Order of the Magi! It’s free to grab this weekend on Amazon. Thread regular Leng was a beta-reader for it and seemed to like it, and I've since tightened it up based on their suggestions, so it should be a brisk and enjoyable read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092CHN6S6/

Congrats on the book! Sounds interesting, I'll add it to my queue to read when I'm done with The Queen's Thief, assuming I can pry it out of Amazon's gnarled grasp in a format my e-reader understands.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
As the perpetual reminder of "why did you/don't loving do that" happens to writers often, today's episode is brought to you by Lauren Hough, who became the main character on writer twitter by bitching about good goodreads reviews for some reason.

She was apparently annoyed that her book only got 4.5 star reviews from some people, and decided to call them out on twitter. Those assholes! Reviewing a book they liked! How dare they?! In all honesty I have no idea wtf she did this, she deleted the tweets, locked her account down, opened it up again and then started doublng down on how she is the real victim because of reasons? that potentially may actually exist but I have not seen yet.

This, as you can imagine, has not gone well.

tildes
Nov 16, 2018

Ccs posted:

Thanks so much! :)

Update: finished it and it’s good! Per the acknowledgements section, definitely you should write another. Satisfied w/ the ending as is, but very down to have a follow up out. (Hopefully the reviews post soon 👍🏻)

tildes fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Apr 18, 2021

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

As the perpetual reminder of "why did you/don't loving do that" happens to writers often, today's episode is brought to you by Lauren Hough, who became the main character on writer twitter by bitching about good goodreads reviews for some reason.

She was apparently annoyed that her book only got 4.5 star reviews from some people, and decided to call them out on twitter. Those assholes! Reviewing a book they liked! How dare they?! In all honesty I have no idea wtf she did this, she deleted the tweets, locked her account down, opened it up again and then started doublng down on how she is the real victim because of reasons? that potentially may actually exist but I have not seen yet.

This, as you can imagine, has not gone well.

On the one hand I kind of understand it since non-5 star reviews might as well be zero-stars to the algorithm, but on the other complaining about the people giving them isn't a good way to fix that, even being the most charitable.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Goodreads doesn't really operate on a 5 or 0 ranking imo.

secular woods sex
Aug 1, 2000
I dispense wisdom by the gallon.

Ccs posted:

Hello thread, so I have a book out, Order of the Magi! It’s free to grab this weekend on Amazon. Thread regular Leng was a beta-reader for it and seemed to like it, and I've since tightened it up based on their suggestions, so it should be a brisk and enjoyable read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092CHN6S6/


Right now Amazon is telling me that I can buy your book for free. Does this hurt your bottom line, or are you paid by the number of purchases regardless of price they were purchased at?

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


secular woods sex posted:

Right now Amazon is telling me that I can buy your book for free. Does this hurt your bottom line, or are you paid by the number of purchases regardless of price they were purchased at?

I don’t get anything directly from a free sale but it boosts the sales rank and leads to a long tail of kindle unlimited reads that pay off. If you leave a review it’s worth way more to me than any royalty would be.

tildes posted:

Update: finished it and it’s good! Per the acknowledgements section, definitely you should write another. Satisfied w/ the ending as is, but very down to have a follow up out. (Hopefully the reviews post soon 👍🏻)

Thanks so much! I’ll probably work on a short story before I get into sequel territory since I want to work on polishing my prose in a short format and I feel I skipped that step by going straight for novel length. But the book has performed very well these past two days so if other people have the same reaction I probably will start doing a more detailed sequel outline in addition.

Ccs fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Apr 18, 2021

Kiost
Mar 22, 2021

Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

As the perpetual reminder of "why did you/don't loving do that" happens to writers often, today's episode is brought to you by Lauren Hough, who became the main character on writer twitter by bitching about good goodreads reviews for some reason.

She was apparently annoyed that her book only got 4.5 star reviews from some people, and decided to call them out on twitter. Those assholes! Reviewing a book they liked! How dare they?! In all honesty I have no idea wtf she did this, she deleted the tweets, locked her account down, opened it up again and then started doublng down on how she is the real victim because of reasons? that potentially may actually exist but I have not seen yet.

This, as you can imagine, has not gone well.

Getting some great posting out of this though.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

Follow me for more books on special!
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Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

It’s titled “Leaving isn’t the hardest thing” yet she’s still posting

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

This person is seriously insane:

https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenthehough/status/1383831990659551238

https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenthehough/status/1383835142062415872

a foolish pianist fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Apr 18, 2021

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Ccs posted:

Hello thread, so I have a book out, Order of the Magi! It’s free to grab this weekend on Amazon. Thread regular Leng was a beta-reader for it and seemed to like it, and I've since tightened it up based on their suggestions, so it should be a brisk and enjoyable read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092CHN6S6/



Congrats! Picked this up to read at a time when the baby isn't teething

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

As the perpetual reminder of "why did you/don't loving do that" happens to writers often, today's episode is brought to you by Lauren Hough, who became the main character on writer twitter by bitching about good goodreads reviews for some reason.

I'm somehow already blocked on twitter by this person I don't remember interacting with at all, based on the other tweets I'm guessing I mocked them for some terrible neoliberal take

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Girl you gotta log off :( I loved that cable guy article. Further proof that no one should ever tweet, it's just not worth it

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

https://twitter.com/KameronHurley/status/1381960063888334849

Will this be the time I finally read this trilogy? Signs point to maybe...

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I was blocked by her as well. Gosh I wonder how I will ever overcome this horrible punishment. :shrug:

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
It's depressing that every internet site with more than 20 users turns into this weird mob pyschology space. Why the gently caress is it possible to be the main character of friggin Goodreads?

Patrick Spens fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 18, 2021

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I think it's a fair mark of how badly you hosed up when you become the main character on pretty much any social media or media adjacent site. People rarely go viral for good things and being totally normal.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I think it's a fair mark of how badly you hosed up when you become the main character on pretty much any social media or media adjacent site. People rarely go viral for good things and being totally normal.

I don't really agree but about this situation the clear response is LOL (log off lauren!!!)

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

MacPac
Jun 2, 2006

Grimey Drawer
was looking for some scifi slop so got another richard k. morgan book "Thirteen". From skimming the blurb its about a washed up experimental supersoldier getting into some trouble way above his head
which was also the starting point of "thin air" which i liked
which was also the starting point of "altered carbon" which i liked the first book of

Im not complaining, but im starting to think dick morgan is churning these out in his sleep on autopilot :v:

MacPac fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 18, 2021

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I cannot believe how dumb you would have to be to deliberately, publicly antagonise any amateur reviewer in the social media age, let alone one who actually gave you a good review. Like, never mind it being rear end in a top hat behaviour, that's just duuuuuuuuumb

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!



These got deleted, what were they?

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
Weirdly enough, people on Twitter seem to be siding with her: https://twitter.com/EmilyVanDuyne/status/1383893155800485895

tiniestacorn
Oct 3, 2015

There is no hero in this story, only different kinds of villains.

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


Teddybear posted:

These got deleted, what were they?

They were her comparing her situation to being raped and victim blamed and then confirming that yes that was intentional.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
This is the kind of intense emotional response that group chats were made for, you can call your 4 star reviewers idiot children for as long as you want there! (I don't do this but she can do it if she wants)

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

I use all 5 points of the scale.

5 - excellent, everybody should read this
4 - great, definitely something you should read if you like this kind of thing
3 - fine, maybe avoid it if you not a fan
2 - bad
1 - too terrible to bother finishing

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

pseudorandom name posted:

I use all 5 points of the scale.

5 - excellent, everybody should read this
4 - great, definitely something you should read if you like this kind of thing
3 - fine, maybe avoid it if you not a fan
2 - bad
1 - too terrible to bother finishing

My scale is basically this, with the specific note that 3 is the level for "I may reread this someday, and if you like this genre / author you might as well." 2- I'm never gonna look at again.

quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

Daniel Keys Moran posted a status update to the SFL Archives and it is so delusional I'm just going to copy the whole thing over.

tldr summary: DKM was in absolute denial about Bantam Book's total done-ness with him. Nothing DKM wrote about in his 1994 status update happened, at all.

------------------------------

DANIEL KEYS MORAN
D.MORAN8@GENIE.GEIS.COM
***NEWS RELEASE***
December 10, 1994


1). The new Continuing Time novel is called "Players: The AI War." It's set
in 2080 and follows Trent the Uncatchable almost exclusively; he's in
90+% of the novel's scenes. It's nearly completed and will be delivered
to Bantam shortly.

2. The following novel, according to current plans, will be "Crystal
Wind." "Crystal Wind" is the novel that was originally called "Players:
Revolution."

The novel *after* that is the novel I told a bunch of people would be
following "The Last Dancer." This is "Lord November: The Man-Spacething
War." LN:TMSW is set in approximately 2680, six hundred years after the
Trent/Denice stories. It's a very big novel novel, and the first
Continuing Time novel that's really *set* out in the Continuing Time.
Its principal characters are Tyrel November, one of Denice
Castanaveras' descendants, and Bodhisatva, a Pinkerton Agent who also
happens to be a Trentist, a member of the Exodus Church, aka "The
Church of His Return."

This novel was 70 or 80% done when Bantam, due to their success with
"Last Dancer," requested that I do the sequels to TLD next, rather than
Lord November. This suited me...

3. In my last news release, about two years ago, I told people that there
would be two more Trent novels; there won't be. I'm killing him in
"Players: The AI War," for a lot of good reasons - his death is, well,
interesting. Even Trent fans should not be much outraged by it, I
hope.

4. Bantam has promised to republish "Emerald Eyes" and "The Long Run"
along with "Players: The AI War." ("The Last Dancer" is still in print,
and doing quite well.)

5. For a while I was selling copies of "The Long Run" screenplay. I've
pretty much ceased doing that; but I am making copies of the screenplay
available online. Several people have volunteered to handle this; I'll
let you know what's happening with it as soon as I have more info.

6. Several different groups were negotiating, at one point, with Bantam
over adaptation rights to "The Long Run." Nothing ever came of any of
it; people at R. Talsorian Games, for example, told me that Bantam
never returned their calls, which I find believable.

7. After I turn in "Players: The AI War," I will no longer be under
contract to Bantam. With my new contract I thoroughly expect to make
enough money to do this for a living which should speed things up a
lot.

The following are THE TALES OF THE CONTINUING TIME:

DATE:

VOLUME ONE: "IN THE BEGINNING..."

Starcloud...................Previous Cycle of the Wheel
Spacethings..............................7 Billion B.C.
The Revolt of the Living...............4.5 Billion B.C.
The Time Wars..........................3.5 Billion B.C.
The Continuing Time.........................62,000 B.C.
"The Last Dancer: The Dancer"...............48,000 B.C.
The Painsharing of Ifahad....................5,800 B.C.
The Lord in His Castle..................540 to 589 A.D.
Remembrance........................................1963
Driving in the Dark................................1982
"Emerald Eyes: The Ancestors"......................2030
The Shepherds......................................2049
"Emerald Eyes".....................................2062
Faster than the <Wind>.............................2063
"The Long Run".............................2069 to 2070
o The Last Summer of His Youth
o The Long Run
o The Wall
"The Last Dancer: Spring 2072"....................2072
"Bordered in Blue".................................2072
o Sea Songs
o Death Songs
The Mechanism of Desire............................2074
"The Last Dancer"..........................2075 to 2076
o Summer: 2075
o Spring: 2076
o The TriCentennial Summer
o The Last Dancer


VOLUME TWO: ON THE ROAD TO REVOLUTION

"Players: The AI War"............2078 to 2080
o Trent the Uncatchable and the Temple of 'toons
o The Big Boost
o Live Fast and Never Die
o The Lay of the Rose
o The AI War
Moving.............................................2082
"Walk Against the Wind"....................2087 to 2090
"The Last Detective".......................2090 to 2091
o Master of the loving Obvious
o Deathjokes, Part One
o Catch Me If You Can
"Crystal Wind".............................2090 to 2100
o Deserts of Glass
o Crystal Wind
The Voyage of the Dauntless................2100 to 2102

VOLUME THREE: THE WAR WITH THE SLEEM

"A Song as Yet Unsung".....................2111 to 2119
"A Tale as Yet Untold".....................2121 to 2139
"Legend"...................................2145 to 2149


VOLUME FOUR: THE EXODUS FROM EARTH

The Corridor of Dawn...............................2290
"The House of November"....................2291 to 2294
o Ares
o Sondra
o Richard: the First Lord of November
o Lorn
The Lords of Shadow................................2309
The Left Handed Hunter.............................2341
"Kinderjim on Earth"...............................2347
"The Serendip, the Starclouds,
and the Scout".....................2349 to 2361
o Discovery
o Looking for Home
"Domain"...................................2382 to 2389
o Homecoming Day
o The Domain of Kinderjim
o Domain
"The Always Rising of the Night"...........2468 to 2501
(Being the true story of Our Lady of
Nightways, Ola Blue, who was Lady Blue,
who was Leiacan of Eastersea.)
Honorable Enemies..................................2614
"Lord November:
The Man-Spacething War"............2676 to 2682
The Face of Night..................................2696


VOLUME FIVE: CAMBER'S WAY

"Young Camber".............................3000 to 3018
o The Child
o The Darkness Has a Name
o The Hunted Man
"The Winding Way Home".....................3022 to 3030
o The Song of Camber and S'Reeth
o The Song of S'Reeth and the Freebooters
o The Old Human Race
o Mithian the Mercenary
o Homecoming Day 3030
"Cities in the Darkness"...................3036 to 3038
o The Traveler
o Cities in the Darkness
o The Borderland of Night
"Camber's Way".....................................3040


VOLUME SIX: THE TIME WARS

"Comes A Man"..............................3106 to 3107
"In Time of Legend"..........................Irrelevant
"All of the Things That You Are".............Irrelevant
"In All of Your Brilliance:
The Writings of Camber"........3397; Irrelevant


VOLUME SEVEN: THE FAILURE OF THE MAP

"Platformer"...............................2964 to 3031
Shiva..............................................3042
Chauki November....................................3392
"The Golden People"................................3515
The Return of the Ultimate Webdancer...............4600
The High Servant...................................7822
"Anarchist"................................8864 to 8976
o The Last Lord of November
o The Way the World Ends
o Anarchist
"End of Empire"....................................9082
"Monument: The Day of Its Release"...............10,400
(The Last Tale of the Continuing Time:
In which the Chained One, Creator of the
Great Wheel of Existence, is released; the
Starclouds and the Zaradin return; heroes
who died before die again; and the
Continuing Time draws to an end.)
The Cold Time..............................circa 12,000


Related Works (fictional and otherwise):

"The Encyclopedia of the Continuing Time" (Non-Fiction)
"Tales of Old and New Earth"
o Other Times and Other Places
o Tales of Old and New Earth
"The Way off the Wheel"
(In the universal heat death, as the Great
Wheel of Existence collapses around them,
a group of Heroes searches for the Way off
the Wheel.)
"The Sheriff of Shokes"
THE COLLAPSE OF THE LEVELS:
o "Poison is the Wind"
o "Winter's End"
o "Wild"
(A fantasy trilogy unlike <anything> you
have ever seen before, deeper and more
detailed than "The Lord of The Rings." Of
course you won't <get> to see it for about
twenty years; a trivial enough wait for a
classic of this magnitude.)
And, Last But <Certainly> Not Least:

T R I N I T Y: The Revolt of the Angels
Earth Angel
Sun Magic
The Poet of the Apocalypse

NOTICE: The preceding is copyright 1994 by Daniel Keys Moran. It may be
disseminated freely so long as the information contained herein is not
altered in any way.

The author can be reached at D.MORAN8@GENIE.GEIS.COM
------------------------------
Just as an aside if that infodump got anyone interested in Daniel Keys Moran's work, Daniel Keys Moran The Long Run is Ernest Cline READY PLAYER ONE bad.

quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Apr 19, 2021

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today
Just finished Jade War. Again, not really sure how I feel about it. I think my main reaction is that it feels a little too real, if that makes any sense. I read fantasy for escapism, and what I get in Jade City and Jade War is the whole experience of growing up Asian in a post colonialism setting and it is way too real.

It's quite tightly plotted and it's an improvement over Jade City in terms of how exposition happens, though I'm not a huge fan of the prose for a two main reasons: switches from third limited to third omniscient and the rhythm/pacing of the prose is always the same, regardless of what's happening in the scene.

Some of the plot twists were quite good and character driven (Shae dueling Ayt Madashi) while others were wtf why (Bero still being alive seriously) and still others somewhere in the middle where you can see how it's intended to be character driven but it was really off-putting (Hilo straight up murdering his dead brother's ex-wife and kidnapping their kid).

If you like an alt universe urban fantasy that's basically the Yakuza vs the Mafia vs various governments with a very simple magic system then you'll probably like this.

I prefer my fantasy to be more epic.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Collateral posted:

I shall check it out!

Thread, are there any Sharpe in Space* type of books/series. In the same way that HH is Hornblower in Space.

*OK probably Sharpe on various planets and stations but SF Sharpe.

That is 100% the Gaunt's Ghosts series by Dan Abnett. On the one hand , it's WH40K fiction, on the other hand, Abnett writes 40K stuff you don't have to be a fan of the genre to appreciate.

I'd start here. You get a good standalone novel, a collection of shorts, and then Space Stalingrad, which is metal as gently caress.

https://smile.amazon.com/Founding-Gaunts-Ghosts-Dan-Abnett-ebook/dp/B077S81GV4/

If 40K is a turnoff, go for the Hammer's Slammers series by Drake.

https://smile.amazon.com/Complete-Hammers-Slammers-Volumes-ebook/dp/B00APA1LSK

NB: the Slammer's series is less Sharpe in Space than David Drake working out his PTSD from Vietnam at a per-word rate. Classics, but they are what they are.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

pseudorandom name posted:

I use all 5 points of the scale.

5 - excellent, everybody should read this
4 - great, definitely something you should read if you like this kind of thing
3 - fine, maybe avoid it if you not a fan
2 - bad
1 - too terrible to bother finishing

This is the correct way to use Goodreads.

The incorrect way, which I heard about on Twitter the other day, is to give a book one star as a personal bookmark that you haven't read it yet, even though the site specifically has a "to be read" button. :psyduck:

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
I don't think it matters what score you give as long as your review is full of gifs.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

quantumfoam posted:

Just as an aside if that infodump got anyone interested in Daniel Keys Moran's work, Daniel Keys Moran The Long Run is Ernest Cline READY PLAYER ONE bad.

You know, I read and liked The Long Run way back when it was new. Really liked it, was pretty sore that all the other stuff never happened.

In my defense, I was a stupid teenager.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Stupid teenager is a tautology.

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SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



I liked the sword of truth books as a teen

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