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WWE have released a whole lot of people in 2021 and also Bryan Danielson left which is about to cause the biggest surge of talent that can be remembered. With a whole lot of interest in where people are going to land I thought it might be fun if we engaged in a little guessing game. Here's how this is going to work, for everyone who's been let go you're going to guess which promotion they're going to sign with (plus options for finishing the year as a freelancer or retiring). Every guess you get right will be worth 5 points and whoever wins gets to smugly proclaim themselves a scoopster of the highest regard! Voting Form Full List of Releases - Lars Sullivan - Steve Cutler - LaSombra (Andrade) - Wesley Blake - Taylor Rotunda (Bo Dallas) - Tucker - Samuray Del Sol (Kallisto) - Chelsea Green - Mickie James - KC Cassidy (Peyton Royce) - Jessie McKay (Billie Kay) - Samoa Joe - Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) - Drake Younger (Drake Weurtz) - Ezra Judge - Kavita Devi - Brandi Lauren - Vanessa Borne - Jessamyn Duke - Alexander Wolfe - Patrick Clarke (Velveteen Dream) - Braun Strowman - Tommy End (Aleister Black) - Heidi Lovelace (Ruby Riott) - CJ Perry (Lana) - Buddy Murphy - Santana Garrett In the event more talent is released I'll open up voting for them as well
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:01 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:41 |
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I have already forgotten what I put in the form, but it shouldn't be too hard to remember my methodology.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:05 |
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It wasn’t an option so I picked new Japan, but DBry is definitely goi my to be back in wwe by the end of the year.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:07 |
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Also I don’t think the form has an SA username field.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:08 |
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There’s no option for the correct answer that Daniel Bryan is 100% going back to WWE
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:09 |
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Lumbermouth posted:Also I don’t think the form has an SA username field. Ok the five people who already answered please hit me up so I can work out who's who
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:13 |
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e: wrong thread
Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jun 2, 2021 |
# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:13 |
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I specially added WWE as an option for Daniel Bryan so anyone who'd like me to switch their answer let me know
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:15 |
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I submitted one but I think I forgot a good chunk of mine. I think I had Lana and the Iiconics going to AEW and LaSombra to AAA, Braun and Lars Sullivan retired, and Velveteen Dream and Wuertz as freelancers.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:33 |
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If someone signs with a company as a coach and not an active wrestler does that still count as "retired"?
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:37 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:If someone signs with a company as a coach and not an active wrestler does that still count as "retired"? I'd count that as signing with the company
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:42 |
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Armitage posted:I submitted one but I think I forgot a good chunk of mine. I think I had Lana and the Iiconics going to AEW and LaSombra to AAA, Braun and Lars Sullivan retired, and Velveteen Dream and Wuertz as freelancers. Got'cha
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:44 |
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Rarity posted:I specially added WWE as an option for Daniel Bryan so anyone who'd like me to switch their answer let me know Please do
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:46 |
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Seems like "Prison" is the most like destination for two of these choices; but that's not technically a promotion.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:05 |
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NutShellBill posted:Seems like "Prison" is the most like destination for two of these choices; but that's not technically a promotion. Prison will be counted as retired
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:10 |
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Drake's obvious future is as side show wrestling attraction for the conservative convention circuit fighting bad Libreal gimmick wrestlers
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:12 |
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Would be funny if Daniel Bryan was meant to be back by the end of the year, but WWE is sold out and the new owners don't want him
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:22 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Drake's obvious future is as side show wrestling attraction for the conservative convention circuit fighting bad Libreal gimmick wrestlers That's a very verbose way to say Joey Ryan.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:26 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Drake's obvious future is as side show wrestling attraction for the conservative convention circuit fighting bad Libreal gimmick wrestlers David Starr’s phone rings for the first time in a year
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 20:28 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Drake's obvious future is as side show wrestling attraction for the conservative convention circuit fighting bad Libreal gimmick wrestlers Dude’s already booked for that QAnon show with Matt Morgan and Low Ki, isn’t he?
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 21:08 |
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Aleister Black / Tommy End on Twitch - notes Tommy End / Aleister Black is live on Twitch, giving a rambly recount of his time in WWE. * Dark Father: The plan was to unfurl over time and explain the role. This was mostly his idea, he says. * Super thankful for the exposure and the experience. He has a good relationship with Vince. Vince could never nail down exactly what he wanted to say with Black. * Loved how Heyman would go to bat for him. * When doing the Room promos, he would use the opponents colours in the background of the room. He added easter eggs to what he was doing. * Black would lay tarot cards, and use those as inspiration for his gear, and often plan out coloured jackets for feuds (he gives the example of Buddy Murphy, and turning green with envy) so all colours were significant as to how he felt in that moment) * Refers to his time in WWE as "having shackles on" and how much he got done while having those on, and is excited to see what happens without them. He's always taken huge pleasure in creating characters. * Aleister Black "was basically the devil with memory loss" - what if Lucifer fell to earth and didn't know how he got there, and what he had to atone for? So the angrier he got, the more demon flesh would be added to his gear (opinion - this is loving wild and I love it!) He chose to continue with the eye from the angle where he lost an eye. He enjoyed researching cult leaders and noted they usually have a big aesthetic choice like white hair. * the glasses are his. Xavier Woods told him "you look like a cult leader" so he kept them for Dark Father. * Returns to the idea of easter eggs / layers. Notes his promos were often not his writing. Talks about the MITB promo on AJ where he stepped out of the dark - "gently caress it, I'm gonna do what I wanna do" and everyone loved it. * "Don't get mad at our creative" says they try super hard and are good, creative people. Mentions "Bruce" (Pritchard, I'm assuming) as going to bat for him. The opinion was "no one moves like him, no one is intense like him". "In the last 5 years I have proven myself to be one of the most influential strikers of my generation". * "It's bittersweet - I owe everything to WWE. My prior work got me to the dance, but the last two years were a slow death". Talks about how the ratings were good, people found him very "Intriguing" - he kept creating stories, characters and gimmicks. He told Hunter "I want to be the metal bands kids use to rebel against their parents". * Side note - listening to Black cuss is a riot. He seems really chill and really well adjusted. * There is apparently a group of people who think he's a part of the illuminati and that he sacrifices kids. He's researched conspiracies and how they spread, so is stoked that people think he's legitimately a satanist / illuminati (not the same thing) kid murderer. Apparently his tattoos on his arms are a sign that he's a kiddie murderer. Apparently WWE shut down a social channel throwing accusations at him when they called him a pedophile. * The Dark Father was based on his life. "I'm an athiest - I can't acknowledge a devil without a God, it doesn't make sense" * Loves Manny (Andrade) - wasn't happy with his debut but the two found ways to build up from it. After the match with Dream a lot of people took notice, so he was given complete freedom to do his own match after that. He proved he can take other people to the next level, so was fastforwarded to the main roster. The last 3/4 months in tag with Ricochet were "probably, professionally, some of my favourite moments in wrestling". Talks about how they did NXT and main roster all week, but they had a ton of fun and learned so much because they were so well oiled. * "If there's no cuffs and you can do anything, that's one thing. But if you have boundaries and rules, and can still shine, that's the testimony of being a professional". Talks about The Revival (calls them "the Pinnacle" now) says they think the same way, uphold rules, etc because it forces creativity. He says he always enjoyed challenging himself. "It's really made me into a much better (I can say it again!) Professional wrestler" * Said that frequently, times in matches changed up, and down and that he loved working on the fly to figure a match out. "WWE is just a crazy, crazy landscape". Says he could sit and mope, but what's the point? this angle was apparently the big push. But it's an "ever lasting, fluctuating business" so can't be mad. Namechecks Orton, Wyatt, Roman, Pritchard, Vince, Heyman. * "Roman Reigns - one of the best loving locker room leaders on earth. What a guy". Usos too! Shouts out Apollo for just smashing his character work. * Side note - gently caress, he talks a million miles an hour and my hands hurt. * Would have loved to work with Bray, says he fights really hard for his stuff because they constantly try to change it. * Referenced a vignette about the eye on his instagram, offered it to WWE, they said it was super creative and awesome, but it got worked against. "What murdered me was the 7 months at home". "Don't listen to journalists, they don't have insiders, they get told warped stories". Apparently he was praised for asking to go to NXT, but Vince wanted to try him again on the main roster. "Don't waste your money on it. It's 5% truth, 95% fiction". Goes off on how paid wrestling journalists suck "I get it, negativity sells". Says it puts fans in a poo poo position, because it's your closest source of news, but it's mostly bullshit. Says it programs fans to hate WWE. Sometimes it's right "A broken clock is right twice a day" - also shouts out "oh, "plans changed" is the biggest cop out in the world" . Also SRS -" "oh, sign up to my patreon for news about Thea" - there is no news." * Says he sat down with Hunter a couple of times to put the fire under the character, didn't want to come back as a heel. "I love everything about this business. It's the single best thing (along side marrying my wife) that I've ever done in my life and it's a process many people can't understand". Says the audience sees 2% of their work. * Says even today, he's been working. Clothing company, talking to fans - it never stops. For 20 years, he's never not once thought about wrestling. He's considering opening a wrestling school, apparently it's in process already. Wants to leave the wrestling world in a better place than he found it. * Says he just spoke to Terry Taylor, who he credits as one of the most influential men in his career and a mentor. "I've had moments where... I'm not the most active on social media, I rarely look at comments, I think about 6-7 months ago when someone went off, he thought "I'll pay for your flight, you come hang out for three days, you'll go home screaming". " Says that the fanbase appreciates what they do and who they are, and he's really thankful for it. * Says with lockdown too many people have too much time on their hands and are focused on the wrong things (talking about internet fans). Says he hopes people find a healthy focus or positive thing to focus on. Emphasises personal responsibility, says **"don't wake up 20 years from now wondering why you spent so loving long arguing with people on the internet about wrestling"** says that all of your potential on earth is great.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 21:12 |
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gently caress, he's really cool
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 22:22 |
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FatBagzJones posted:Goes off on how paid wrestling journalists suck "I get it, negativity sells". Says it puts fans in a poo poo position, because it's your closest source of news, but it's mostly bullshit. Says it programs fans to hate WWE
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 23:17 |
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Don't even know why Daniel Bryan is even on this list the guy is 100% going back to WWE and isn't even technically released just in contract negotiations.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 23:22 |
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Le Saboteur posted:Don't even know why Daniel Bryan is even on this list the guy is 100% going back to WWE and isn't even technically released just in contract negotiations. lmao
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 01:11 |
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The funniest outcome is if Bryan re-signs with wwe just to be released 3 months later because of "budget cuts".
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 01:26 |
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Form needs a "WHO FUCKIN' CARES" option for Dream, Drake, and LARS.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 01:51 |
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Evil Badman posted:Form needs a "WHO FUCKIN' CARES" option for Dream, Drake, and LARS. Retirement. The real wrestler retirement is when no one wants to see you anymore and just wants you to gently caress off.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 02:14 |
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dylan miley will get signed... ...to work at a home depot in the exurbs of denver i guess
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 02:23 |
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I'm prepared for Danielson to call out Okada on Monday, or just to randomly challenge Bobby Lashley in like 3 weeks. It feels like a coin toss.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 02:32 |
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I'm sure Black is super cool but that summation came out like this. "I felt shackled and frustrated but Vince is good and Bruce and good and creative is good nobody is to blame please don't hate them." "Journalists are bad and will feed you warped stories" I know you don't want to burn your bridges but don't throw out those lines then accuse the journalists of warping the narrative like you're shooting straight.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 02:44 |
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ChrisBTY posted:I'm sure Black is super cool but that summation came out like this. WWE Diplomacy is hard enough when you are still employed by them. Trying to do the gracious, right, classy, and/or professional thing after just being sacked is an even harder tightrope to walk. Especially if you actually want to say something. So unless you want to go scorched earth, like CM Punk or Mox did, I have no problem with recently released wrestlers speaking in platitudes, or being cagey with wrestling journalists that want the next "Released wrestler unloads on Vince and WWE!" article.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 04:31 |
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I didn't pick Retired for anyone because I think everyone lands somewhere after this - even racists and sex pests - because "former WWE" is still going to be a selling point for small town indies when crowds come back. I also don't really see any of this crop going to Japan other than a quick stint somewhere. I think for the bigger names and those with tons of indie cred it'll mostly be AEW, the non-problematic midcarders are Impact, and the rest turn up in a high school gym somewhere.
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 06:49 |
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I took my guesses, most of the generic dudes with beards I sent to MLW but now I think they probably would have gone to Impact so I'll probably lose. The moral victory will be mine when Bryan Danielson goes to New Japan though!
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 07:26 |
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sticklefifer posted:I didn't pick Retired for anyone because I think everyone lands somewhere after this - even racists and sex pests - because "former WWE" is still going to be a selling point for small town indies when crowds come back. I also don't really see any of this crop going to Japan other than a quick stint somewhere. I think for the bigger names and those with tons of indie cred it'll mostly be AEW, the non-problematic midcarders are Impact, and the rest turn up in a high school gym somewhere. You're probably right but I picked "retired" way more than I thought I would. Although I was half asleep when I filled it out
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 13:30 |
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Impact already got one this week, for those who had Steve Cutler. I think I voted for that?
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# ? Jun 4, 2021 03:20 |
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Welp, I was not expecting to have to update this thread so soon The following goons all score 5 points: oldskool, Fartbutt, sportsgenius86, flashy_mcflash, Fentry, Lead Pipe Cinch, Shayna Baszler, hosed up birthday, CarlCX, Lumbermouth, Fadmonkey, Auritech, Venomous, sticklefifer, El Generico, Petit Gregory, BrigadierSensible
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# ? Jun 4, 2021 06:14 |
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Maclin you son of a bitch
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# ? Jun 4, 2021 15:53 |
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that was among the most obvious of all of them and I can't believe more people didn't call it.
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# ? Jun 4, 2021 16:20 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:that was among the most obvious of all of them and I can't believe more people didn't call it. i can't believe so many people know who steve cutler is or why this would be obvious
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