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If this is the penultimate chapter, would you say this or part 5 ended worse?
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Jun 18, 2021 05:34
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Grouchio posted:If this is the penultimate chapter, would you say this or part 5 ended worse? Part 5‘s story ended worse, but it had Sleeping Slaves... so I guess it really depends on what the next chapter contains. I think that the themes of Jojolion that the chapter talks about are solid but we didn’t get enough of the Higashikatas to actually see and feel them. The Wonder of U fight went on too long and could have been used to flesh out other characters who simply appeared a few times otherwise, and the ancillary characters that appear during the fight die almost instantly. (Kei, I’m looking at you.) I’ll have to give the whole thing a reread, but as it stands Jojolion feels to me like a mess of good ideas and cool moments scattered between battles that drag on, nonsensical parts, and dropped plot points. It’s got some high highs, but compared to the masterpiece that is SBR it’s a bit disappointing. Though again, this is based on my week to week readings so I might change my tune completely. On the subject of it ending, as far as I know there haven’t been any announcements about it and I thought that kind of thing was generally announced in advance? So maybe we’ve still got a bit to go.
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Jun 18, 2021 06:08
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Grouchio posted:If this is the penultimate chapter, would you say this or part 5 ended worse? i don't know grouchio, what is your opinion on how part 8 is ending compared to part 5
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Jun 18, 2021 07:56
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Amgard posted:For those who read ch108 I dunno it seems real to me.
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Jun 18, 2021 09:10
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Did Karera ever come back?
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Jun 18, 2021 09:19
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multijoe posted:Did Karera ever come back? She and Fugo are hanging out
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Jun 18, 2021 09:26
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i don't think jojolion is over. gappy appeared seemingly out of nowhere to finish the big bad, which is jarring as hell. I think tsurigi's stand is going into overdrive and what we're looking at right now isn't real, much like how that one guy got hit by bus thanks to tsurigi's previous stand power
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Jun 18, 2021 12:47
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Condiv posted:i don't think jojolion is over. gappy appeared seemingly out of nowhere to finish the big bad, which is jarring as hell. I think tsurigi's stand is going into overdrive and what we're looking at right now isn't real, much like how that one guy got hit by bus thanks to tsurigi's previous stand power I hope this is true but it also sounds like hoping against hope
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Jun 18, 2021 14:53
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ah yes paper moon king requiem it's time for gappy to take the arrow from the stand
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Jun 18, 2021 14:57
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i think there would be more chance of a fakeout if there wasn't the kind of background narration going on summing up some of the themes of the part just let it go. if it somehow happens even still then whatever, sure, but imo it would be weird to be in denial about it as a base
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Jun 18, 2021 15:38
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We're definitely in the end of the part, but I don't think it's gonna be as sudden as next month being the end. I'd say we're probably gonna see out the rest of the year.
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Jun 18, 2021 15:57
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For ostensibly being about the Higashikata family and their curse, I... sure didn't care for them much in the end. Like, some of them are cool sure, but it always felt like we were one step removed from them the whole time - even though Josuke was adopted has he really spent much time with the family? Maybe it's because the trio of Josuke+Yasuho+Rai doesn't involve them.
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Jun 18, 2021 16:03
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I didn't even feel like the Part was about the Higashikatas, they're just the side characters whose story moves the plot. the Part reads as being much more about Kira and the relationships he made building into being reborn to solve the Rokakaka ring and rock humans problem
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Jun 18, 2021 16:34
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Johnny Joestar posted:i think there would be more chance of a fakeout if there wasn't the kind of background narration going on summing up some of the themes of the part Isn’t the narrator yasuho? Something that’s weird to me is right after tsurigi is saying his dad didn’t burn grandpa too bad, the calamity attacks the grandpa..
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Jun 18, 2021 17:12
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you're acting like this part is far more tightly plotted than it actually is. it ending now is in line with how the rest of part 8 has gone
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Jun 18, 2021 17:27
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"Yasuho, Rai's dead BTW."
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Jun 18, 2021 18:03
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Yasuho saying "This has truly been... a Jojolion" makes it seem like it's pretty close to the end. I wouldn't rule out something like a denouement piece though
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Jun 19, 2021 05:05
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The camera is going to pull back and this has all actually been a bedtime story that Joseph has been telling the invisible baby, the true forgotten Joestar.
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Jun 19, 2021 12:25
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JoJolion's peaks are up there with some of the very best JoJo. Its troughs are definitely down there with some of the worst JoJo. Even on a re-read, it's going to come across as scatter shot with its plot and very much a case of "'I'm going to draw for 10 years and have a very vague and loose overarching theme that doesn't matter much, it's mostly just gonna be dudes fighting for fruits".
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Jun 19, 2021 15:19
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I haven't touched the series cause the idea of waiting for a mystery written by Araki to be released monthly sounded like asking for pain. It seems like it's wrapping up though, so I might dive in soon. From how people are reacting I am tempering my expectations on the mystery aspect (which I already did because of this series), but otherwise it sounds pretty enjoyable.
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Jun 19, 2021 17:52
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jojolion is araki trying to give jojo more plot than usual but it's not really good at that part of it, otherwise it's pretty cool though
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Jun 19, 2021 18:19
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It did quietly have some of the best Monster Of The Week stuff Araki ever wrote too, like Vitamin C and Born This Way.
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Jun 19, 2021 18:34
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This doesn't feel like an ending to the part, but if nothing else, Tooru finally getting smoked was pretty satisfying.
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Jun 19, 2021 18:52
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lih posted:jojolion is araki trying to give jojo more plot than usual but it's not really good at that part of it, otherwise it's pretty cool though it kind of felt like maybe trying to make something like part 7 but with a bigger crew and then didn't seem completely sure at times what it wanted to do with who. but also i'll say that a lot of chapters individually made me laugh or landed otherwise, and the art overall has been gorgeous. i do think it will stand up much better on a reread when it can just all be considered at its own pace, and even if the fighting was weak in the latest arc being able to breeze thru the worst of it will absolutely take the sting off lol
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Jun 20, 2021 08:29
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there is no price too high for Shakedown Road
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Jun 20, 2021 08:41
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I feel part 8 is gonna land in the upper half of parts, because when it's good, it's fantastic, and a lot of the problems are pacing related, which is always helped by being able to read the whole thing together.
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Jun 20, 2021 11:31
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Josuke Higashikata posted:JoJolion's peaks are up there with some of the very best JoJo. Its troughs are definitely down there with some of the worst JoJo.
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Jun 20, 2021 14:08
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Relin posted:i can remember the damo fight, that was fun. the rest of it has been pretty unmemorable which is worse than being bad It's felt kind of halfassed plot-wise since Damo died really
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Jun 20, 2021 16:02
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I dunno it seems real to me. You're like Yasuho and you implicitly trust the sneaky little poo poo no matter what he tells you. Even when he's repeatedly shown he uses Paper moon king to gently caress with our perception of events before later reconstituting them. Which was a think the Flashforward set up. Araki is remembering so hard rn.
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Jun 20, 2021 22:40
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this is absolutely a mass time illusion or something araki would never - would never - have the final boss have such a simple power as wonder of u
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Jun 20, 2021 23:12
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Suddenly next chapter Diogo raises out of the ground near the Wall Eyes with his stand Scary World and its power to change time to the Jurassic period for 5 seconds.
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Jun 20, 2021 23:24
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I'm hoping that Tsurugi somehow got partially fused with Jesus because then his evolved Stand could be named King of Kings. There's at least one song with that title 
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Jun 20, 2021 23:41
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actually next chapter my oc comes in and beats that loser josuke up
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Jun 21, 2021 00:03
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Amgard posted:You're like Yasuho and you implicitly trust the sneaky little poo poo no matter what he tells you. During the early parts of Wonder of U, Tsurugi uses PMK to make it look like Jobin and Tsurugi were dying horribly of massive blood loss, instead of a few glass splinters. I think it's going to turn out to be either Norisuke or Jobin is flat out dead and the other one is barely grasping to life, and Tsurugi is going to try to fuse the two. We combine King Nothing and Speed King and get
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Jun 21, 2021 04:02
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SKULL.GIF posted:JoJo's Bizzare Adventure Manga Thread - Red-Hot King in the Higashikata Court.
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Jun 21, 2021 04:30
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actually josuke has been in a coma this entire time
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Jun 21, 2021 04:45
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Whole lotta denial going on in this thread
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Jun 21, 2021 04:50
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Can paper moon king work on the manga itself and make us think we're looking at one thing when in reality something else has been happening the entire time and we couldn't see past the illusion of the manga itself
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Jun 21, 2021 05:10
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Milagro Man should have saved the day against Tooru.
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Jun 21, 2021 05:26
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CodfishCartographer posted:Whole lotta denial going on in this thread I don't know what the coming updates will bring. But If Araki leaves all these threads he set up himself before the stupid countdown timer started unresolved. I'm going to dump Jojolion behind Golden Wind on principle  I think this arc has some fantastic moments, like a lot of people I hole Vitamin C in high regard and Damo was a better villain than Tooru for what it's worth. But holy crap was Wonder of U a shite arc even on the re-read
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Jun 21, 2021 05:42
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