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I think Black Lagoon is a good choice for showing off the average Runner life. Or maybe Gunsmith Cats to some extent, especially considering how many times the image of Rally Vincent having C4 in her fridge shows up. 
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Jun 7, 2021 01:27
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The Lone Badger posted:The big difference between Shadowrun and other CP is that the environment is loving back. That occurred to me after I made the post. I was thinking about the background details of BR2049 (ignoring the story, anything about replicants) and what it did a good job communicating. What are ocean levels like in the Sixth World? Seattle's on the Puget Sound and I don't remember any details about flooding, but Seattle's also steep. Putting a 10 meter sea rise into https://www.floodmap.net/ barely touches downtown and doesn't even take out that much of the south Seattle metro area. (Lotta warehouses and commercial districts.)
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Jun 7, 2021 02:19
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Johnny Mnemonic tried really hard to put as many parts of Shadowrun in as it could without the magic aspect. Not sure how effective it is at getting across the 'flavor' but the movie was just chock full of references. Fingernail monomolecular whip isn't something I had seen anywhere else.
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bird food bathtub posted:Johnny Mnemonic tried really hard to put as many parts of Shadowrun in as it could without the magic aspect. Not sure how effective it is at getting across the 'flavor' but the movie was just chock full of references. Fingernail monomolecular whip isn't something I had seen anywhere else. It’s in the William Gibson short story the movie is based on, which SR is almost certainly also referencing. e: 
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Jun 7, 2021 02:34
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Gibson appears to have deleted it all from his website, but yeah I recall him being pretty salty about SR being a straight lift of his stuff with elves slapped on. e: source is gone but this one’s quoted on dumpshock quote:Gibson: To the extent that there was a Cyberpunk movement-and there wasn't, really, but to the extent that there was, the five or six people who I knew in 1981 who were doing this stuff and had a radical aesthetic agenda, at least in terms of that pop-art form of science fiction, [and] one of the things that we were really conscious of was appropriation. Appropriation as a post-modern aesthetic and entrepreneurial strategy. So we were doing it too. We were happily and gloriously lifting all sorts of flavours and colours from all over popular culture and putting it together to our own ends. So when I see things like ShadowRun, the only negative thing I feel about it is that initial extreme revulsion at seeing my literary DNA mixed with elves. Somewhere somebody's sitting and saying 'I've got it! We're gonna do William Gibson and Tolkien!' Over my dead body! But I don't have to bear any aesthetic responsibility for it. I've never earned a nickel, but I wouldn't sue them. It's a fair cop. I'm sure there are people who could sue me, if they were so inclined, for messing with their stuff. So it's just kind of amusing. The one I recalled was much more ticked at not being given any credit as an influence. My guess is he’s mellowed a bit. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 9, 2021 |
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Jun 9, 2021 14:49
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Are there good resources around for 3rd edition? Character builders, TTS/roll20 support, and so on? I owe my friends a game and it's either Shadowrun or Kult, and I'm not in the mood for Kult, I'll tell you that for free. Third edition has always been my favorite.
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Jun 9, 2021 15:02
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I wonder what's more galling: Jordan Weissman stealing your stuff and mashing it with Tolkien or Mike Pondsmith stealing your stuff and then writing that its first rule is "style over substance."
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Jun 9, 2021 15:06
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PeterWeller posted:I wonder what's more galling: Jordan Weissman stealing your stuff and mashing it with Tolkien or Mike Pondsmith stealing your stuff and then writing that its first rule is "style over substance." The latter, especially seeing as it infected the former, probably.
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Jun 9, 2021 15:12
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PeterWeller posted:I wonder what's more galling: Jordan Weissman stealing your stuff and mashing it with Tolkien or Mike Pondsmith stealing your stuff and then writing that its first rule is "style over substance." Pondsmith had read nothing of Gibson when Cyberpunk first dropped. He was more running off Blade Runner, possibly some 80's anime like Bubblegum Crisis and the novel Hard-Wired, the writer of which was one of the first playtesters.
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Jun 9, 2021 15:40
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Sephyr posted:Are there good resources around for 3rd edition? Character builders, TTS/roll20 support, and so on? I don't know anything about VTT support, unfortunately. There is a character builder... but it's old. Written for ancient versions of Winders. I was able to get it working on Win10 without any hassle, though. I think you have to run as admin maybe? https://shadowrun3.webs.com/nsrcg Beyond that, some of the links on this page still work: http://www.geocities.ws/grant_erswell/sr/index.htm The best thing on there, imho, is the link to the "Crib Sheets" which are essentially word docs with quick references to magic, matrix, and combat procedures. Also, I recently purchased Cannon Companion off Drivthrurpg as a print-on-demand book. I wish they would offer the SR3 core book, but they have PDF of that, too, if you are adverse to *ahem* certain troves of RPG PDFs.
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Dawgstar posted:Pondsmith had read nothing of Gibson when Cyberpunk first dropped. He was more running off Blade Runner, possibly some 80's anime like Bubblegum Crisis and the novel Hard-Wired, the writer of which was one of the first playtesters. Didn't he also work with the guy that directed Hardware? Or am I mis-remembering?
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Dawgstar posted:Pondsmith had read nothing of Gibson when Cyberpunk first dropped. He was more running off Blade Runner, possibly some 80's anime like Bubblegum Crisis and the novel Hard-Wired, the writer of which was one of the first playtesters. Ahh, allow me to revise then. PeterWeller posted:I wonder what's more galling: Jordan Weissman stealing your stuff and mashing it with Tolkien or Mike Pondsmith stealing your stuff second hand and then writing that its first rule is "style over substance."  (And yes, I know Bladerunner's aesthetic informed the Sprawl novels' and not the other way around.)
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Jun 9, 2021 16:13
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Finster Dexter posted:Didn't he also work with the guy that directed Hardware? Or am I mis-remembering? Nothing I can see. Searches just return the fact he apparently found the copy of Traveler that set him off on game design at game/hardware store which is a funny combination.
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Jun 9, 2021 16:13
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Yeah I can't find it now... I thought Richard Stanley had played some RPG sessions with Pondsmith or something, but must have been my own headcanon.
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Jun 9, 2021 16:20
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Finster Dexter posted:I don't know anything about VTT support, unfortunately. There is a character builder... but it's old. Written for ancient versions of Winders. I was able to get it working on Win10 without any hassle, though. I think you have to run as admin maybe? Ohh, I remember using that one! It's devastatingly complete. Thanks a lot.
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Jun 9, 2021 16:25
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NSRCG is what I'm going to be using for my game. The next problem is a lack of VTT support anywhere
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Dawgstar posted:Pondsmith had read nothing of Gibson when Cyberpunk first dropped. He was more running off Blade Runner, possibly some 80's anime like Bubblegum Crisis and the novel Hard-Wired, the writer of which was one of the first playtesters. Except that he might not have watched it in a language he understood, because the boomers were A: not augmented humans, but robots, and B: the rampages were usually not even malfunctions, it was the corp that made them doing like, assassinations with deniable assets and not caring about collateral damage. Hardwired is also where Riggers come from, the best I can tell.
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Jun 10, 2021 02:52
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Bullbar posted:NSRCG is what I'm going to be using for my game. The next problem is a lack of VTT support anywhere Honestly you don't need that much VTT. Roll20's got easy scripting to do dice pools vs a target number and the less you automate the targets the more room you leave yourself to nudge the system, which you're absolutely going to have to do in SR3 because while a pretty decent system, it still has a lot of spots where the DM declaring a TN and a dicepool is much better than trying to parse the rules. Vehicle collisions and explosions as standouts.
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Jun 10, 2021 05:39
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Liquid Communism posted:Vehicle collisions and explosions as standouts. "This kills you. Here are how many boxes of overkill you take."
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Doing a run where the crew has to escort a terrible 00s screamo band. Looking for some good names for their singles. So far I got: I only cry blood (cause I got no more tears) Women n' nuyen I went to hell (cause I'm gonna take over) Corporate take over Early retirement Hold the grenade Magic is for losers Neon explosion. Everything is dead (in death) Drunk at a funeral Cyber sasquatch (lost in the woods) Bullet train (straight to ur heart) Drunk enough Spirit of man Cheese grater for the soul I'm a sellout (and I vote) Overklokkedd
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Slave to tha matrix Dragon's den Six bullets, six heads, six problems (666).
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Here's a good list: https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Samurai#Songs
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Jun 26, 2021 18:03
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Cyber sexcaspades definitely falls under the umbrella of what I am looking for.
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Jun 26, 2021 18:11
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Zombie Squared posted:Doing a run where the crew has to escort a terrible 00s screamo band. Looking for some good names for their singles. So far I got: Regoblinized Orc Inside Corpo Rat Catcher
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Infinite Karma posted:Already Tried Restarting It This owns and you are going to be immortalized in my campaign becausr of it. Zombie Squared fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 26, 2021 |
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Jun 26, 2021 19:10
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Bad double post
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Jun 26, 2021 19:15
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FYI all three of the Harebrained Schemes isometric RPGs from a few years ago are FREE on GoG right now.
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Zombie Squared posted:Doing a run where the crew has to escort a terrible 00s screamo band. Looking for some good names for their singles. So far I got: Their Cybereyes Were Watching G.O.D.
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Is there any prebuilt modules for Shadowrun that y'all would recommend? 4e or 5e, preferably the latter, but I can do some conversion if needed.
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TalonDemonKing posted:Is there any prebuilt modules for Shadowrun that y'all would recommend? 4e or 5e, preferably the latter, but I can do some conversion if needed. Playing with familiar or unfamiliar players? If they’re truly new, some of the early material might be worth the effort. The UB/bug city stuff is solid. I don’t like the arcology shutdown plot for anything but a campaign capstone, but it’d be great for that. Converting is gonna be a pita though, at this point that’s quite a lot of roll your own. Food fight is old, but comfortably so in the way of loony tunes cartoons. Nobody’s gonna be really impressed, but it’ll still be amusing. Should be easy enough for any rule set.
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eviltastic posted:Playing with familiar or unfamiliar players? If they’re truly new, some of the early material might be worth the effort. The UB/bug city stuff is solid. I don’t like the arcology shutdown plot for anything but a campaign capstone, but it’d be great for that. Converting is gonna be a pita though, at this point that’s quite a lot of roll your own. Players are familiar enough. We've all done food fight once or twice, just looking for something like the paizo adventure paths where I don't have to do much prep work for each session
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Pope Guilty posted:FYI all three of the Harebrained Schemes isometric RPGs from a few years ago are FREE on GoG right now. Whoa that's crazy, they're really great games, I wonder if this is a sign they could be developing more
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They've been recruiting developers to work on "an unannounced turn based strategy game" all year, so here's hoping
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It'll somehow be Earthdawn, just to complete the trifecta. 
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First session of 3rd edition game in the bag, and yes the entire thing was spent planning and doing legwork. Beautiful.
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Bullbar posted:First session of 3rd edition game in the bag, and yes the entire thing was spent planning and doing legwork. Beautiful. You were playing Shadowrun, after all…
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Zereth posted:Pretty sure he'd watched Bubblegum Crisis. Cyberpsychosis is basically the Boomers from it going on a rampage. Cyberpsychosis is present in the AD Police prequel series, which seems to have come out after Cyberpunk 2013, hmm. Or at least at the same time. But it has people with extensive cybernetics going crazy and being put down by the ADP, including one full replacement borg who has no flesh left but a brain and tongue. Hardwired is definitely where riggers came from, and the LAVs from the book were lifted right into Shadowrun, even called Panzers in 1st edition... they changed it to T-Birds later. And kept out of the reach of PCs forever.
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Tippis posted:It'll somehow be Earthdawn, just to complete the trifecta. Don't tease, Earthdawn was super cool.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Don't tease, Earthdawn was super cool. Is there any sites showing a combined lore or timeline from Earthdawn through to Shadowrun? I don’t mean rules or anything, but my favorite things to read are timelines and lore but I never even saw a (free) combination of the two. ED/SR have a unique point of view in the genre because I never saw Molly fight bug spirits controlled by a real honest-to-God Dragon. Magic in cyberpunk is straight out fun to read.
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