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heeebrew posted:Been injured for two weeks or so now and somehow I got staph the one time I taught a socially distanced grappling dummy class. UGH!!! On anti-biotics now. Sorry to hear this dude. Staph can enter in the smallest of cuts. I have friends that are black belts that have told me nightmare stories of getting staph and one dude who almost died from it (ended up in the hospital). Wangsbig posted:the best part about combat sports is sometimes getting to legally gently caress up cops Fun fact though: these are usually the toughest guys in the gym to roll with. Not the spec ops dudes, or marines or military...its the cops. Tacos Al Pastor fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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the toughest guys in our gym are a spec ops guy, a child psychologist, and a golf pro.
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I train with this girl and today her rash guard lifted up and I saw two ring worm sites on her belly and back. 
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gay for gacha posted:I train with this girl and today her rash guard lifted up and I saw two ring worm sites on her belly and back. With dudes I feel its easier to approach this topic than with women, but she needs to be informed that that isnt normal. Is she new in the gym/ white belt? Sometimes you just need to have a discussion with people what the various things on the mat you can contract are. Also make sure the mats are being cleaned. After each practice, you should actually watch that the mats are being mopped. This was a problem in my old gym.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:With dudes I feel its easier to approach this topic than with women, but she needs to be informed that that isnt normal. Is she new in the gym/ white belt? Sometimes you just need to have a discussion with people what the various things on the mat you can contract are. There is supposed to be a few guys that live at the gym in this fighter stable that clean the mats. I've never watched them be cleaned. I train three times a day most days and I can sometimes tell that the mat still feels greasy when I come in the afternoons or at nights. I brought it up to the owner, the fighters and the girl. We'll see.
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gay for gacha posted:There is supposed to be a few guys that live at the gym in this fighter stable that clean the mats. I've never watched them be cleaned. I train three times a day most days and I can sometimes tell that the mat still feels greasy when I come in the afternoons or at nights. I brought it up to the owner, the fighters and the girl. We'll see. Thats gross. I used to find all kinds of weird poo poo in the morning on the mat when I would come in and when I would bring it up i was reassured that the mats were cleaned each morning. Look, if you still see poo poo on the mats supposedly after they are being cleaned, they are not being cleaned.
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Jul 12, 2021 18:36
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Ours get cleaned after in the evening after class (or after multiple back-to-back classes), but our gym is a separate room within a larger fitness facility. This leads to the mats being used for aerobic classes, who love to complain that the mats are "probably" dirty because of those dirty wrestlers, but never actually clean anything after their own class.
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is this a gym myth? I heard that all grapplers have mrsa in their blood?
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Jul 12, 2021 19:04
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My gym mats always smell like disinfectant and people clean them after every class.
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L0cke17 posted:My gym mats always smell like disinfectant and people clean them after every class. This should be the norm. No excuses.
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Our gym runs from 5:00 to 8:00ish and that's two kids classes and then an adult, and it gets wet cleaned at the end of the night and blown with a leaf blower at the start of the day. I have no idea if that is good enough or not but the gym hasn't had an outbreak of stuff AFAIK in the few years I've been there.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Our gym runs from 5:00 to 8:00ish and that's two kids classes and then an adult, and it gets wet cleaned at the end of the night and blown with a leaf blower at the start of the day. I have no idea if that is good enough or not but the gym hasn't had an outbreak of stuff AFAIK in the few years I've been there. Ours gets sprayed with sanitizer and mopped Street every class, even the back to back ones. Sometimes we start the class on the wet surface of the fans haven't had a chance to dry it. I'd rather that then less cleaning.
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Sprayed and mopped after every class, even if there’s a private lesson immediately afterwards. Coach grabs a spray thing and starts walking around the mats with it, a couple of students grab those wide rectangular mops and follow him around. All the cleaning stuff is mounted to the wall at the edge of the mats. The disinfectant spray usually goes on pretty thin so that it dries fast.
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When I did Judo class always ended with everyone cleaning the mats. But, I've never ever trained at a BJJ place or even a wrestling academy that cleaned the mats after training. That's kind of gross considering how often I'm face down against the mats.
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Kind of wondering this today and maybe someone with more experience can answer this: Why are leglock positions such as outside ashi, "game over" and 50/50, etc. not scored as positions in the IBJJF Nogi setting? Seems logical that they should.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:Kind of wondering this today and maybe someone with more experience can answer this: Why are leglock positions such as outside ashi, "game over" and 50/50, etc. not scored as positions in the IBJJF Nogi setting? Seems logical that they should. Well the leg game was neglected, considered dangerous or "cheap" or outright banned for most of the sports history. Most of the recent increase in prominence in the leg game has come from no-gi competitions with very different rule sets. The IBJJF is the conservative heart of the sport; it only made heel hooks legal within the past year. Plus the positional hierarchy is considered with great reverence in BJJ. I think they'll be extremely hesitant to mess with that for any reason.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:Kind of wondering this today and maybe someone with more experience can answer this: Why are leglock positions such as outside ashi, "game over" and 50/50, etc. not scored as positions in the IBJJF Nogi setting? Seems logical that they should. I believe IBJJF has announced for 2022 that 50/50 will be worth two points to each competitor
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:Kind of wondering this today and maybe someone with more experience can answer this: Why are leglock positions such as outside ashi, "game over" and 50/50, etc. not scored as positions in the IBJJF Nogi setting? Seems logical that they should. My understanding is that the standard BJJ scoring scheme is a product of its roots in vale tudo, i.e. "how well can you beat the poo poo out of the other guy from this position?" That means you wind up with some weird artifacts like mount still being worth 4 points in no-gi even though it's a much less dangerous position without the threat of collar chokes or strikes. The standard scoring scheme still tracks pretty well in the gi, but no-gi should really just be sub-only, IMO. There's also a bunch of weird blind spots like the crucifix or the body triangle not counting for anything. You could even make a case for the triangle being a dominant controlling position that should be worth points too. Also, I'm very amused by the idea of coming up with a scoring criteria for 50/50.
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Nestharken posted:My understanding is that the standard BJJ scoring scheme is a product of its roots in vale tudo, i.e. "how well can you beat the poo poo out of the other guy from this position?" That means you wind up with some weird artifacts like mount still being worth 4 points in no-gi even though it's a much less dangerous position without the threat of collar chokes or strikes. Vale Tudo did leg locks though. I thought that the IBJJF leg lock bias had to do with the "Gracies vs the Favelas" classism rivalry, where the Vale Tudo guys from the Favelas were beating Gracies using leg locks in the gym wars and challenge matches, so the Gracies declared leg locks not to be real jiu jitsu and ineffective but also too dangerous and banned them.
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The way it's always been portrayed to me is not that leglocks are ineffective or dangerous, but that it's about dominant / higher percentage positioning. My instructor is an old school Renzo guy who talks pretty frequently about how his mindset is always about what the ramifications of a position or technique are if there were strikes involved. He'll yell at you if you give up a top/dominant position to enter for a leglock, like if you're passing the guard and fall back for an achilles or a heel hook. But if you pass the guard and then leglock the dude you're golden. But even in those cases, there are details that he shows on setups/entries of how he tries to ensure that he's going to maintain top position if his leglock attempt goes south. He also talks about leglock battles as shootouts where you're gambling that you know the position better than your opponent and so again, it's not about whether a specific lock in a specific position is better, it's about the risk that going for that might present to you in doing so, if your opponent has a better 50/50 game than you for example. So where the high/low percentage thing comes in is not whether a heel hook works or is high % - if you're also at risk that weighs into the formula of whether or not its worth going for or safe going for.
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This concept that the point system is based on dominant position for punches doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me from a competition setting. It does make more sense if you look at it from the viewpoint of "what submissions do I have from this position?". There are way more chokes from side control than say, knee on belly. I feel leglock positions should be treated the same.
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I think we can all agree that judo considering back-mount a stalemate position is total BS.
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Nestharken posted:There's also a bunch of weird blind spots like the crucifix or the body triangle not counting for anything. You could even make a case for the triangle being a dominant controlling position that should be worth points too. I want points for putting someone in the truck.
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I have ring worm.
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gay for gacha posted:I have ring worm. Condolences... I keep waiting for this to happen to me. That or some cellulitis or other gnarly skin thing but so far so good. EDIT - rank review tomorrow night! i'm excited to learn from different folks and roll with other students that i never get to see. i doubt i'll get a stripe on my pleb tier white belt given the weirdness of training for 6mo, then covid, now two months but i'm going for the continued education instead of a level up.
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I got bit! Albeit through a mask I had a gentleman in a head and arm choke and as an escape he chose to bite his way out, fair play to him it worked but biting? In these times? I was completely taken aback! Then I went home and my Achilles was bitten by a dog! I must have a decent flavour profile
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Mr Gorgon Holmes posted:I got bit! Albeit through a mask Better than me. I would have punched him in the mouth. I don't play nice when people don't play by the rules.
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I am trying to think of the funniest counter if somebody tried that. What if you just pinched his nose shut with your other hand? And you could twist the nose, too, that’d hurt, maybe use that to turn his face away if the biting doesn’t stop.
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Actual bite defense is shove your arm into their mouth/shove their head forward into the arm so it wedges open their jaw fwiw I personally recommend it because it's easy to do, nullifies the bite and ime they give up after a couple of seconds of being an uncomfortable dingus Xand_Man fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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Yeah I saw that on a catch video once. Shove your arm deeper, push their head forward then wrap around the forehead like you're going to 1 arm strangle their head. Squeeze and twist, jaw goes one way skull the other. Yikes Counter facelock or jawlock or something like that. Pretty nasty.
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Mr Gorgon Holmes posted:I got bit! Albeit through a mask Hope you can stay away from some mosquitos... lol don't catch the zika or that west nile
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I think it’s your duty to take someone to the hellraiser dimension if they try something like that.
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Xguard86 posted:Yeah I saw that on a catch video once. Shove your arm deeper, push their head forward then wrap around the forehead like you're going to 1 arm strangle their head. Squeeze and twist, jaw goes one way skull the other. Yikes If you could find a link that'd be sweet. I can find facelock videos on youtube (like this and this) but I can't find anything that's a counter to a bite.
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gay for gacha posted:I have ring worm. Hopefully it wasnt from that girl you mentioned. Also: Lamisil.
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Count Roland posted:If you could find a link that'd be sweet. I can find facelock videos on youtube (like this and this) but I can't find anything that's a counter to a bite. It was an aside in a video about more normal subs. Can't find it now  This billy Robinson video is pretty much it though. Except the cross hand is actually in their mouth. The back version I can't find anywhere but was the same idea, lock the jaw out then twist. Like the logic of a heel hook. https://youtu.be/Xq0OrVgEFs4
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One of my coaches has a polite-but-threatening speech that he gives to people who grab one or two of his fingers, to the effect of: "In BJJ, we grab all four fingers at once. If you're in a fight, you can grab one finger, and if you do that to me in here, that means we're fighting." I can't even imagine what would happen if someone tried biting, lol
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Nestharken posted:One of my coaches has a polite-but-threatening speech that he gives to people who grab one or two of his fingers, to the effect of: "In BJJ, we grab all four fingers at once. If you're in a fight, you can grab one finger, and if you do that to me in here, that means we're fighting." I can't even imagine what would happen if someone tried biting, lol We had a weird new guy try to break one of my coaches fingers after telling him he trained jiu-jitsu and asking if hand locks were okay. He had a similar" if you want to hurt me ill hurt you" talk he gave the guy and then the guy left.
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gay for gacha posted:I have ring worm. Sucks I just had it for like a month on my face, kept coming back after treatment. Had to get on oral antifungals.
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one of my friends is thinking about starting BJJ (not in my city) and he wants to know about starting. do we have a thread recommended video for "beginners bjj" butterflys or what to know? idk. I don't wanna just be like, lol it loving sucks for a while and eventually you'll love it.
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We used to recommend getting saulo's book jiu jitsu university.
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