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CubeTheory posted:Hololive just had to stop accepting gifts because people were trying to sneak in tracking devices, I don't think the huge step of not posting background info, even it's spoilered, is like a huge ask. As insane as it sounds, these streamers are literally putting their personal safety on the line to entertain us, just don't post the info. Just don't do it. It's just that easy.
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CubeTheory posted:I had to go back all of four page to find spoilered talk about Pekora's past life and high school stuff Ok and? It's not like somebody's gonna find the exact schill and use it to find out their personal identities. You're getting mad over nothing.
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im glad doxxing is allowed and encouraged if it's behind spoiler tags???
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Renzuko posted:someone posted a mega of it the day it happened... Nice! Thanks!
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Jul 20, 2021 07:40
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homeless snail posted:Then why not do like that one post said and have one thread for the doxxers and another one for people that actually like and respect vtubers. Seems like a win/win to me, in my opinion. I don't like calling people doxxers when the youtube algorithm spent half a year showing us peoples irl identities especially when psychos are sending out like gps trackers and poo poo
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Rubellavator posted:Nobody is posting that sort of information. You don't get to be the judge of what sort of information is or should be public, the vtubers do, and they don't want this stuff known or widespread, so don't post it. It's just that easy. Also, as the loving eye reflection stalker thing showed us, we don't know what kind of information is or isn't helpful to crazy people. What is the benefit here? Why would we take any risk at all?
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Terminal autist posted:I don't like calling people doxxers when the youtube algorithm spent half a year showing us peoples irl identities especially when psychos are sending out like gps trackers and poo poo maybe dont bring that here though??? youtube also likes recommending videos about why all trans people should die but that also isn't allowed here?
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Renzuko posted:Ironmouse has this discussion every once in a while WRT "original vtuber" and i think she most recently came to the conclusion that it's a fully digital avatar, because folks were saying like, the annoying orange, or Max Headroom, that was one that people suggested to her, but then she looked into him and saw it was all prosthetics and acting like a robot so she shot it down. First fully digital realtime avatar might be this guy: https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Waldo_C._Graphic
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Terminal autist posted:I don't like calling people doxxers when the youtube algorithm spent half a year showing us peoples irl identities especially when psychos are sending out like gps trackers and poo poo I'll call them doxxers if they don't keep that poo poo to themselves and insist on talking about it, whether they do so by spoilers or wink-wink nudge-nudge hints or veiled assumptions or with the pithy excuse of "it's an open / poorly-kept secret so it doesn't actually count."
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everythingWasBees posted:maybe dont bring that here though??? youtube also likes recommending videos about why all trans people should die but that also isn't allowed here?
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it's not even a blanket thing, tons of vtubers are open about their irl identities. most of atolive is public about who they are. just like, dont dig into the ones that are requesting privacy? just like you shouldnt dig through a posters internet presence to try and find out their irl details
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CubeTheory posted:You don't get to be the judge of what sort of information is or should be public, the vtubers do, and they don't want this stuff known or widespread, so don't post it. It's just that easy. A lot of them literally have no choice because their companies forbid them.
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Renzuko posted:Ironmouse has this discussion every once in a while WRT "original vtuber" and i think she most recently came to the conclusion that it's a fully digital avatar, because folks were saying like, the annoying orange, or Max Headroom, that was one that people suggested to her, but then she looked into him and saw it was all prosthetics and acting like a robot so she shot it down. I mean I joke about Tom Servo but the even in MST3k all you really see during the film portion is silhouettes in the corner of the screen, and it's hilarious to me to think that in many respects, you could probably just do a silhouette of a lot of Vtubers during portions where they game. Even though you couldn't see at that moment the more detailed animations of their faces and stuff, the way in which they move around and express themselves could still largely be understood just through gesture. Nyanners is particularly good at taking an avatar with a limited amount of actual ability to move and doing a lot with it just because of how she's moving around.
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homeless snail posted:Maybe if we put it in spoiler tags...? ||im gay|| Rubellavator posted:A lot of them literally have no choice because their companies forbid them. that doesn't mean you should do it though???? wtf is this take
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Explain to me what I have wrong here: - Vtubers create tons of free content everyone here loves - They largely don't want us posting about their past lives or info - People here do it anyways but spoiler tag it ???? CubeTheory fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Terminal autist posted:I don't like calling people doxxers when the youtube algorithm spent half a year showing us peoples irl identities especially when psychos are sending out like gps trackers and poo poo
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everythingWasBees posted:it's not even a blanket thing, tons of vtubers are open about their irl identities. most of atolive is public about who they are. just like, dont dig into the ones that are requesting privacy? just like you shouldnt dig through a posters internet presence to try and find out their irl details This is the correct policy, giving people coco's other life is fine and trying to triangulate a vtubers ping is weird and creepy.
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Jul 20, 2021 07:48
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RealFoxy posted:There's so much hyperbole in these posts that didn't actually happen. Just post some Nijisanji clips so I can fall into another rabbit hole and we can escape this dumb discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHPTnsxDUr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuZ8W4IOD0
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CubeTheory posted:Explain to me what I have wrong here: #2 is an assumption and also you're all conflating personal identity information with past lives as entertainers.
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Rubellavator posted:#2 is an assumption and also you're all conflating personal identity information with past lives as entertainers. This. No one is doxing anyone here. No one is giving out names and addresses. If someone likes a Vtubers music or Art I see Zero issue with pointing them towards their other accounts.
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Rubellavator posted:#2 is an assumption and also you're all conflating personal identity information with past lives as entertainers. It's obviously an assumption because I haven't personally seen every single vtubers personal policy on this, which is why I said largely, and something that is impossible to reasonably police for, so the blanket policy should be not posting about it because it protects the ones that don't want it without hurting the ones who don't care.
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Rubellavator posted:#2 is an assumption and also you're all conflating personal identity information with past lives as entertainers. The last like 3 things people have taken issue with has in fact not been at all about their past lives as entertainers. Please do not lie.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:This. No one is doxing anyone here. No one is giving out names and addresses. If someone likes a Vtubers music or Art I see Zero issue with pointing them towards their other accounts. Answer this question: If a vtuber directly says they don't want people posting about their past lives, are you ok with people still posting about it here?
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everythingWasBees posted:that doesn't mean you should do it though???? wtf is this take I think maybe I worded that badly, I agree with you here. everythingWasBees posted:it's not even a blanket thing, tons of vtubers are open about their irl identities. most of atolive is public about who they are. just like, dont dig into the ones that are requesting privacy? just like you shouldnt dig through a posters internet presence to try and find out their irl details
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The information of Korone's past life as an entertainer such as: her age
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CubeTheory posted:Answer this question: If a vtuber directly says they don't want people posting about their past lives, are you ok with people still posting about it here? As long as it's in spoiler tags and not something like really personal than I don't mind. Of course what counts as personal depends on the person. Ages and personal pictures are a no go. But if a Vtuber made a viral video in a past life and you want to share it than go for it.
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Saagonsa posted:The information of Korone's past life as an entertainer such as: her age
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Kata-Haro posted:Ok, so while this isn't incorrect, there's a lot more history between PekoMiko, from when they were in school to joining Hololive. uh wtf is this then
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:As long as it's in spoiler tags and not something like really personal than I don't mind. It's not about you, it's about the safety of people putting themselves out there.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:As long as it's in spoiler tags and not something like really personal than I don't mind.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:As long as it's in spoiler tags and not something like really personal than I don't mind. Well I guess I can't argue with 'gently caress the vtubers wishes, I'm going to do whatever I want'
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Saying “hey this is person X’s old/alt account on twitter” in spoiler tags feels fine so long as it’s just another internet persona, though you can find that elsewhere and it leads to weird conversations so maybe it’s not so innocuous However, actively trying to find Korone’s age or their names or addresses or whatever is weird and gross
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Jul 20, 2021 08:00
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Saagonsa posted:The information of Korone's past life as an entertainer such as: her age Literally nobody talked about Korone's age aside from Takoluka bringing it up as an hypothetical example. Kyte fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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homeless snail posted:Actually I need to know Korone's age, for personal reasons. no i am not a cum rereg Ironically I think that was point they were making
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Kyte posted:Literally nobody talked about Korone's age aside from Takoluka bringing it up as an hypothetical example.
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It depends on the what you find too personal I guess. Speculating on age or where they live is too much imo. But sharing cool things or music and art made in a past life is fine by me.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:As long as it's in spoiler tags and not something like really personal than I don't mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJkLPnVYILA
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RealFoxy posted:I was curious as to how Zentreya did her text-to-speech so seamlessly so I googled it and of course I found more than I was bargaining for, but I think I'm a bigger Zentreya fan now than I was before. or like this
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Potentially behind the scenes stuff or total bullshit
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I dont mind getting spoiler tags with small notes on what vtubers used to do content-wise before their current gig because I'm curious, but I'm fine if that's not allowed since people can't help themselves with the speculation and digging up of personal information
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