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Mafic Rhyolite
Nov 7, 2020

by Hand Knit

Revolver Bunker posted:

So that raises another interesting question. If someone streams using a VTuber avatar but also streams in person on the same channel do they still count as a Vtuber? Or do they need to be 100% avatar to count?

That's obviously perfectly fine, that's what kson does. There's no reason for any of this hand-wringing to be happening at all. Anyone in this thread should be old enough to know the difference between an openly connected identity and one that is not.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
This is like a thread about a popular cartoon show or series, and you people keep barging in going "hey the person that voices the redhead has a podcast about comic books!"

Like, no one loving cares. Everyone posting in this thread is going to be self-aware enough to know that the animated 2D/3D figures speaking through a computer screen have a real person behind them that might do other things in a different job or private capacity. Maybe they have stuff up from the past, or they have stuff going up now. If it's kept separate then leave it the gently caress alone.

If you care so much go make a separate thread for "streamers" and talk it up there all you want.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Takoluka posted:

Right. I'm saying I don't agree with it. If Kson gets a pass, then the decision to restrict discussion of anyone else is arbitrary. There is no good reason to consider her an exceptional circumstance, especially given what happened during the previously mentioned stream. Do we consider Kson a Vtuber? If we do, then we should not discuss any stream that features her real-life self. If we don't, then she's not relevant to the thread anymore. We already do this for other streamers like Hime Hajime, and if we're bringing the hammer down for Kiara, then we need to be consistent.

This seems like a reasonable rule to put in place.

kson is an exception because she literally quit hololive to stream, as a vtuber (and with normal cam), on her own

presumably people that quit and stream as vtubers in other places can have their vtubing discussed

anyway it's better to be heavy-handed even when it's kinda stupid (lol at calling someone noting kiara streaming on her regular account "doxxing" ) because people have demonstrated rather blatantly that they can't be trusted to not actually doxx people, as shown by multiple people talking about korone's irl age, or pekora and miko's real life past together, and getting the prior thread nuked

and also this thread is about vtubers streaming, not about what vtubers do without their facerigs

Jen X fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Jul 24, 2021

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005

*LATEST FAD
vtubers, are good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94b9HTMOCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrjXqOqQQJ0

kson streams with a vtuber avatar, so she also is a vtuber, and she is also good

e-
now THIS is a vtuber
https://twitch.tv/vektroidlive

https://twitter.com/jeffgerstmann/status/1418803708834598916

Wudz fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jul 24, 2021

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Mafic Rhyolite posted:

Kiara and Gura do not talk about their other or past identities on any of their vtuber related stuff
I thought people posting about kiara's stream were saying she was greeting people who were coming over from her vtuber persona? which would sound to me like it's a case of not being allowed to directly connect them, rather than not wanting to connect them.

anyways, amidst all the bellyaching, nobody even mentioned Ame's deep sea critter stream, and that's a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpDf8Mcukoc&hd=1

Breadmaster
Jun 14, 2010
pomu no!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuPxtNK1xc

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy
Posting this because it should be posted every once in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYhKUKzD6IQ

What a fuckin' bop, still blows my mind it wasn't made specifically for her, it has "Pekora" written all over it.

junan_paalla
Dec 29, 2009

Seriously, do drugs
Selen is starting to get legit scared by little nightmares and it's amazing :allears:

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

junan_paalla posted:

Selen is starting to get legit scared by little nightmares and it's amazing :allears:

It's always funny to see for the first time how a streamer reacts when they're scared.

Selen's appears to be to change from "laughing constantly" to "laughing nervously constantly" , which is amazing. :allears:

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Coco is retired. Just stop talking about Coco, and just refer to kson as kson (instead of Coco). Problem solved.

This is not a streamer thread, so let's not talk about streamers. We should just keep it to vtubers. Keep the streamers in their own thread or make one if necessary.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Oliver "I like story games and am not good with horror" Evans made the mistake of including Resident Evil 7 in his first game twitter poll where it inevitably beat Detroit and Fire Emblem. Also a real double flex with the English and the Latin quote thrown in for good measure.

https://twitter.com/oliverd_23/status/1418850470391595013?s=21

Kanfy fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jul 24, 2021

ElBrak
Aug 24, 2004

"Muerte, buen compinche. Muerte."
RE7 is a tense game up until your brain picks up on how the enemy AI operates and then you are just mad at these idiot enemies getting in your way while you stab them in the face with a knife.

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1418766677584408576

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004

Viridiant posted:

Posting this because it should be posted every once in a while.

Agreed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV0f2pTMr4E

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
My mind is still expanding from the one person who said nene’s theme has real ‘golden retriever trying to get a stick that’s too big through a door’ energy because it’s a perfect comparison.

Doctor Hospital
Jul 16, 2011

what





Kanos posted:

It's always funny to see for the first time how a streamer reacts when they're scared.

Selen's appears to be to change from "laughing constantly" to "laughing nervously constantly" , which is amazing. :allears:

I'm glad I've been able to watch Selen's last few streams live, because they've all been gold.

Resident Evil 4 is gonna be so good :allears:

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

I'm glad it's not hitting her too hard. I hope she gets better soon and doesn't suffer lasting effects from this.

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

Oga 3D debut stream in 10 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw7WqfV7H0c

Big questions of the night, Is Fubuki showing up? And will she be finally able to break Ogas horn?

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Biology professor vs. Biohazard. In his own words he's literally never streamed before his debut, so this'll be his literal first ever video game stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UznckQiYKi4

Someone's been translating summaries of their debut streams too, I'm glad the Deep Voice Club has gotten a new member again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj_ky3DUmPY

Fat_Cow
Dec 12, 2009

Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

This 3D stream has huge amounts of Soul.

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

Out of the Holostars so far, I definitely like Oga's 3D the most. They knocked it out of the park with this one.

Also Ironmouse has basically not stopped hitting the screenshot button since this started so go check out her twitter for screencaps

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1418894552304439297

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Gotta say I admire how thirsty Ironmouse gets, it’s good to know I’m not alone in guy hot flailing.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Oga forgot where his horn is and is now emitting strong Danchou energy while singing.

-e-
Miasma mirror ball

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

Godamn, finishing things with the VOTOMS OP

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!
Uhhhhh...

https://youtu.be/-ZvL4F420-Y

:blush:

cathead
Jan 21, 2004

Sundae posted:

All of TheArtGun's models look similar for the base designs. It's kind of a shame, because the rigging is so good otherwise.

Veibae


Snuffy


They're probably all using the same frame and then getting customized, kind of like how a ton of VRChatters use a TDA-Miku model as their base rigging.

Was catching up on thread and just wanted to point out that's Vei's model by Neonbeat and Keffiy, and Snuffy's VRC model there is by Lily/@atelierbunny. Not that that affects your main point or anything but wanted to clear up that those aren't ArtGun's.

I do agree ArtGun seems to use a base model, which I guess doesn't surprise me considering the amount of commissions she must get nowadays, I imagine some shortcuts need to be taken simply for time/efficiency. I don't particularly mind her "style" though, especially in Nyan's case where it's just great that she finally has a non-VRC 3D model that's super expressive now. I think if I had anything I'd like to see changed on it I'd maybe make the tops of her eyes a little more rounder to be closer to how her 2D models look.

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

Big Holo JPxID Gartic Phone collab starting soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIXvCPWepM

Tangents
Aug 23, 2008

Lyrica is singing today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O04_eUuG6w0

Lyrica is good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIFg26-tOs

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2BaQ9WRzo

Return of the pepeloni, at midnight

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


pentyne posted:

This is like a thread about a popular cartoon show or series, and you people keep barging in going "hey the person that voices the redhead has a podcast about comic books!"


What? That's not even close. Even going like "this person also voices a character/acts in a live action show, either currently or in past" isn't quite there because these people aren't just voicing characters, they're also figuratively writing the scripts, actually creating music, animations, or just generally making content that is the same or similar as they're doing. I don't know why people act like it's doxxing to know who the actor is when that actor is creating content under another name. Most of the time, it's not even under their real name, and often it's just a different vtuber avatar and not their real self being streamed.

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005

*LATEST FAD

Kata-Haro posted:

Big Holo JPxID Gartic Phone collab starting soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIXvCPWepM

This whole thing will need to be translated, I've only seen a few minutes but it's been excellent. Takoyami Towa was perfect.

Pepeloni At Midnight is a great hololive cover band name.
Also hooray

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010


I'veBeenWaitingForThis.jpg

Overbite
Jan 24, 2004


I'm a vtuber expert

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005

*LATEST FAD

this is exactly as advertised, and if you need an inner ear massage this might do the job.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

That thumbnail makes me nervous... :ohdear:

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Potsticker posted:

What? That's not even close. Even going like "this person also voices a character/acts in a live action show, either currently or in past" isn't quite there because these people aren't just voicing characters, they're also figuratively writing the scripts, actually creating music, animations, or just generally making content that is the same or similar as they're doing. I don't know why people act like it's doxxing to know who the actor is when that actor is creating content under another name. Most of the time, it's not even under their real name, and often it's just a different vtuber avatar and not their real self being streamed.

The argument seems to be that since they're both neither streamers nor celebrities; curiosity or discussion of anything beyond Hololive is Doxxing. Even if it's information straight from them! Can you mention anything about Subaru and Marine's rough/weird lives without that being called doxxing now? I have no idea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnxAA9ZqSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-XgGg0-pg

Keeping the discussion limited to how Pekora's bomb skill grows by the day and soon she will be constructing explosives in the shape of her own face to wreak havoc upon the EN server as well seems to be the only acceptable tactic. Just watch the videos and leave it to Cover to tell you about their new merch like that alcohol Lamy and Pekora had I think.

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jul 24, 2021

Worklurker
Jan 2, 2014

I was expecting sound.

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005

*LATEST FAD

Worklurker posted:

I was expecting sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1uh3PS78Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT186xDTwUU

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

That thumbnail makes me nervous... :ohdear:
she's literally saying "I'm home" or "I'm back" so unless she's home to collect her things to move out I wouldn't worry

though I said the same thing about coco so my track record is admittedly not the best

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Wudz posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1uh3PS78Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT186xDTwUU

she's literally saying "I'm home" or "I'm back" so unless she's home to collect her things to move out I wouldn't worry

though I said the same thing about coco so my track record is admittedly not the best

Yeah, I'm probably just overreacting, it's just her waving over her shoulder as she walks away conveys a certain message.

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Takoluka posted:

Do we consider Kson a Vtuber?

Kson is a youtuber/streamer not a vtuber. She often streams with her real face as her real self in her real reality. She just happens to have an animated avatar (e: that represents her) like a billion other youtubers do.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 24, 2021

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