|
If the release date is November then it's a little concerning to not at least have a teaser out already - there's no other show out right now with the same vibe so if nothing else missed opportunity. If it's looking more like a December/holiday season release then I guess I can see holding off until around Labor Day but even then I would expect a much more robust rollout for something they're spending this much money on. If I wasn't already a reader of the books I'm not sure I'd know that the show existed. The analytics and marketing department at Amazon has better information than we do I'm sure so I guess we just have to trust their judgment.
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 05:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 17:26 |
|
|
The poster they released today says "November 2021" on it, so..... 
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 06:11
|
|
|
We're all still gonna watch it though, let's be real
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 06:43
|
|
|
Comrade Blyatlov posted:We're all still gonna watch it though, let's be real The fanbase is no longer used to waiting for things (this is a good thing I'm glad the series was finished and not GRRMd into oblivion)
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 09:05
|
|
|
Pleads posted:The fanbase is no longer used to waiting for things (this is a good thing I'm glad the series was finished and not GRRMd into oblivion) This so much. One can dislike the Sanderson books, but I don't think anybody would be happier without them. Knowing how the series ends is a big plus, even if the execution of said ending was unfortunately not done by Jordan himself.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 09:19
|
|
|
I was gutted when I heard he had died, and equally happy when I heard they had someone finishing it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 12:54
|
|
|
Invalid Validation posted:You’re way more optimistic than I am about not showing anything with 4 months to go. it's less optimism and more me working from the angle that amazon is realistically probably handling things in the way they think will influence amazon prime purchases the most
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 14:14
|
|
|
Mat Cauthon posted:If the release date is November then it's a little concerning to not at least have a teaser out already - there's no other show out right now with the same vibe so if nothing else missed opportunity. Yeah, this is just how Amazon does marketing for new shows now. They don't want people to get hyped then forget, so they don't start a big push until a few weeks out, then they blitzkrieg all media. Dragonmount had a good post about it: "Adam's Wheel of Television: Why We Won't See a Trailer at Comic-Con - TV Show - Dragonmount.com" https://dragonmount.com/news/tv-show/adams-wheel-of-television-why-we-wont-see-a-trailer-at-comic-con-r1193/
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 21:09
|
|
|
yeah, i hadn't read anything about it but i was pretty much working off the assumption that they're saving it up for when it would be the most relevant. there's a lot of tv shows and whatever else coming out these days, so why would they dripfeed little bits across an entire year and have people forget them instead of just blasting out their feed when it's close to airing?
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 21:14
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:I made a thread in TVIV if anyone wants to move non-spoiler discussion there: Could you add a link to the op of this thread to the op of that thread? Just in case someone wants to read =) Also the cast photo tweets in that OP might be good too in your OP https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3897992
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 21:15
|
|
|
Thanks for the suggestions, I added some stuff to that OP.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2021 21:55
|
|
|
th3t00t posted:On the previous episode of Dragon Wheel Z: pages back, but my friends and I joked that in the downtime between books, Perrin read the series and now gets how all the super natural stuff works.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 01:44
|
|
|
Just imagine how badass he’s be if he wasn’t so weird about being a wolfguy. You’re basically a superhero, dumbass.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 03:30
|
|
|
Invalid Validation posted:Just imagine how badass he’s be if he wasn’t so weird about being a wolfguy. You’re basically a superhero, dumbass. I mean tbf the other examples of Wolfbrothers he runs into are horrifying basically until the end of the series. They're ostracized or have completely lost the part of them that is a man and have gone full wolf. Its not hard to see why he's uh not cool with that. Especially before he really gets the rules and mechanics hammered out.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 03:47
|
|
|
Zore posted:I mean tbf the other examples of Wolfbrothers he runs into are horrifying basically until the end of the series. They're ostracized or have completely lost the part of them that is a man and have gone full wolf. Didn’t he meet only two though? One was an outcast weirdo even before the wolf thing, and then Elyas, who was more or less ok with it all.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 04:49
|
|
|
wallaka posted:Didn’t he meet only two though? One was an outcast weirdo even before the wolf thing, and then Elyas, who was more or less ok with it all. He doesn't learn the one guy was an outcast weirdo before he went full wolf, the way the brother originally describes it makes it sound like the wolf stuff overwhelmed him and he just went feral out of nowhere. Its only later he gets full context. And as for Elyas he's a complete recluse and outlaw who doesn't have any meaningful human relationships. Perrin is not cool with that being his life. Verin also doesn't help with her 'you'll inevitably go insane and forget you're a man' stuff either Zore fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 25, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 05:18
|
|
|
We should spend literally seven thousand pages discussing Perrin seeing that one outcast weirdo, just like Jordan spent literally seven thousand pages telling us about Perrin thinking about that one outcast weirdo.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 05:36
|
|
|
BigHead posted:We should spend literally seven thousand pages discussing Perrin seeing that one outcast weirdo, just like Jordan spent literally seven thousand pages telling us about Perrin thinking about that one outcast weirdo. Aram?
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 05:43
|
|
|
BigHead posted:We should spend literally seven thousand pages discussing Perrin seeing that one outcast weirdo, just like Jordan spent literally seven thousand pages telling us about Perrin thinking about that one outcast weirdo. See if there's one character arc I hope the show changes up, it's Perrin's. It's not just that Jordan seemed to run out of ideas about what to do with him after the Battle of Emond's Field, it's that Perrin and his crew get almost entirely kicked out of the overall story for like half the series. All the rest of the main characters at least get to interact with each other....except Perrin. He just gets kicked to the curb along with Faile and Berelain. Hell, even at the Last Battle, he's off by himself without any of the other main characters involved in what he's up to! The Slog would be a hell of a lot less sloggy if there wasn't like two books of Perrin being mopey and chasing the Shaido to get Faile back.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 05:56
|
|
|
jng2058 posted:See if there's one character arc I hope the show changes up, it's Perrin's. It's not just that Jordan seemed to run out of ideas about what to do with him after the Battle of Emond's Field, it's that Perrin and his crew get almost entirely kicked out of the overall story for like half the series. All the rest of the main characters at least get to interact with each other....except Perrin. He just gets kicked to the curb along with Faile and Berelain. Hell, even at the Last Battle, he's off by himself without any of the other main characters involved in what he's up to! I feel like if you have him wrap up the Shaido in Winters heart, I think he'd be great for Elayne's political story in crossroads of twilight. Have the rival claimants offer to make him king of the 2 rivers or something. Fixes 2 plotlines at once
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 06:22
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:I feel like if you have him wrap up the Shaido in Winters heart, I think he'd be great for Elayne's political story in crossroads of twilight. Have the rival claimants offer to make him king of the 2 rivers or something. Fixes 2 plotlines at once You know, that's not half bad. I'd buy that.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 06:33
|
|
|
I’m on CoT in my reread and it really is boring as hell. Every section I read it’s like “yea, all this description is filler and this could have been addressed in a 2 page recap”.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 14:32
|
|
|
latinotwink1997 posted:I’m on CoT in my reread and it really is boring as hell. Every section I read it’s like “yea, all this description is filler and this could have been addressed in a 2 page recap”. I posted about it in the TVIV thread, but I never read CoT. I only read the 8 sentence Wikipedia summary and never felt like I was missing any critical information in the following books.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 14:39
|
|
|
I loved how the ebook listing for every single book after like #4 says something like “Rand and his friends draw ever closer to the final battle of Tarmon Gai’don” Like “idk, words words words $16.99”
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 15:52
|
|
|
Invalid Validation posted:Just imagine how badass he’s be if he wasn’t so weird about being a wolfguy. You’re basically a superhero, dumbass. Perrin teleporting across the world, and is basically an X-man Hopper: "This isn't really about Wolves anymore, is it?"
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 16:06
|
|
|
I'm generally ok with the Perrin storyline slow burn. He's slow, or maybe careful is the better word. All this takes place within 2 years or so, it's insane how fast these kids change. Perrin just takes a little longer to come to terms not only with being a wolfman, but his place as a leader. faile sucks though, or maybe just the mores of her people make them generally insufferable
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 17:24
|
|
|
Perrin: “I have the ability to smell exactly what anyone is feeling at any given time, including my mercurial wife” also Perrin: “I will not actively use this knowledge to my political advantage, except to note how well being honest and buff as hell throws politicians off their game. Being only 18, I will definitely not use my ability to better communicate with my wife.”
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 20:18
|
|
|
Democratic Pirate posted:Perrin: “I have the ability to smell exactly what anyone is feeling at any given time, including my mercurial wife” The irony is that his being able to read his wife's emotional state is a big reason for everything going wrong with it. He says something, she feels a flare of jealousy internally but with no outward sign. Perrin says or does something to try and make her feel better, which from the outside actually looks like him doing the opposite and makes Faile angrier because now other people are reading things into his responses. Perrin responding to invisible cues tends to make them both visible and completely misinterpreted. Throw in some cultural differences and they're just destined for misunderstanding
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 20:48
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:I loved how the ebook listing for every single book after like #4 says something like “Rand and his friends draw ever closer to the final battle of Tarmon Gai’don” That's why I bought a complete collection of all ebooks instead!
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 20:52
|
|
|
Libluini posted:That's why I bought a complete collection of all ebooks instead! Honestly I should get around to doing this, which will be the third complete set of the books I own, physical and audio being the other two.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:01
|
|
|
i'm honestly glad i went out of my way to get a paperback of all the books + the prequel book with the original art on them because i can imagine it'll be hard as hell to find once the show comes out
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:26
|
|
|
I methodically scoured used bookstores for the Tor paperback editions, because those goofy covers are what I first read the series in (when borrowing from a library).
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:31
|
|
|
the art is absolutely goofy as poo poo but it's what i mentally associate with the series, and i've always found that weird abstract minimalism that recent editions of books tend to use to be boring as hell. might as well go fully in if you're going to collect a 14 book fantasy series.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:35
|
|
|
Fifteen. You think I'd skip New Spring? (I mean, I did, when it came out, but not now.)
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:48
|
|
|
Vavrek posted:Fifteen. You think I'd skip New Spring? I thought it was bad when I first read it, I enjoyed it a lot more this time. The Elyas cameo is still dumb though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 22:53
|
|
|
How do you expect to sell your paperback fantasy with blister-print title font in the checkout lane if it doesn’t have asymmetrical romance novel characters with weird foreshortening on it
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 23:30
|
|
|
based on the covers rand is approximately 45 years old
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 23:43
|
|
|
Comrade Blyatlov posted:I thought it was bad when I first read it, I enjoyed it a lot more this time. The Elyas cameo is still dumb though. When it came out, I was salty about Crossroads of Twilight being the last book I'd read (and it was out before I found the series, so I'd never had to wait for a book before), and wanted actual plot progression. Hearing that the next book was a prequel, well. Prequels aren't plot progression! So I skipped it, until I revisited the series a decade later to read the entire thing. Moiraine understands a very important loophole in the Three Oaths: 
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 00:15
|
|
|
Vavrek posted:When it came out, I was salty about Crossroads of Twilight being the last book I'd read (and it was out before I found the series, so I'd never had to wait for a book before), and wanted actual plot progression. Hearing that the next book was a prequel, well. Prequels aren't plot progression! So I skipped it, until I revisited the series a decade later to read the entire thing. It's been a long time I forget, what's the loophole?
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 00:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 17:26 |
|
|
Shanking.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 00:50
|
|