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feedmegin posted:Does ordinary roundshot even cause explosions if it hits gunpowder? I presume there's a reason you heated it if you were after that sort of effect. Gunpowder isnt impact sensetive, but a larger shot might cause sparking, cause greater damage that makes gunpowder leak onto a source of ignition, break a covered lamp that sort of thing.
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Greggster posted:Were people fighting differently since the goal was to smash the other persons shield or was it just "go for the kill, the other person will have to deal with it"? I remember hearing on the Saga Thing podcast that there was a form of dueling where each duelist would have an assistant who would hold the shield. The idea was to whack at each other’s shield until it was dropped or destroyed.
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Scratch Monkey posted:I remember hearing on the Saga Thing podcast that there was a form of dueling where each duelist would have an assistant who would hold the shield. The idea was to whack at each other’s shield until it was dropped or destroyed. so they invented timbersports
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Greggster posted:Were people fighting differently since the goal was to smash the other persons shield or was it just "go for the kill, the other person will have to deal with it"? Yes, they attempted to break the shield rather than injure or kill the opponent, as breaking the rules set for a trial by combat would invite severe penalty itself, often to the tune of outlawry (ie. almost certain death if you couldn't leave the country safely). Killing someone in a non-lethal ruleset would label you honourless, which was more or less a death sentence in many areas. Scratch Monkey posted:I remember hearing on the Saga Thing podcast that there was a form of dueling where each duelist would have an assistant who would hold the shield. The idea was to whack at each other’s shield until it was dropped or destroyed. That you did, I listened to the episode recently - but remember that they go only by the sagas( in this case, Cormacs Saga IIRC), which, for a variety of reasons, aren't reliable historical sources. We don't have this second man in legal codes from the time period.
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feedmegin posted:Does ordinary roundshot even cause explosions if it hits gunpowder? I presume there's a reason you heated it if you were after that sort of effect. heated shot is for fires not explosions, usually with the explosion being a secondary result of the fire you have set heating shot on board a ship or boat in the appropriate era is difficult for all the obvious reasons. well, heating the shot is comparatively easy. not setting your own ship on fire is the hard part.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:heated shot is for fires not explosions, usually with the explosion being a secondary result of the fire you have set We tried to use heated shot, and ended up with fire ships. 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:heated shot is for fires not explosions, usually with the explosion being a secondary result of the fire you have set
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Tias posted:Yes, they attempted to break the shield rather than injure or kill the opponent, as breaking the rules set for a trial by combat would invite severe penalty itself, often to the tune of outlawry (ie. almost certain death if you couldn't leave the country safely). Killing someone in a non-lethal ruleset would label you honourless, which was more or less a death sentence in many areas. IIRC, there was an excellent dramatization of the Rise of the Borgia family back in the 00s that had one of the characters feeling guilty because he had killed a man dishonorably. Not killed a man, but had killed him in a dishonorable fashion. The further back you go from the modern day, the more different the values, customs, and traditions of the time period become. Europeans from the 1500s would be downright alien if we could bring them through time to the present, and vice-versa. and also horrendously smelly considering how much clothing most owned
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FMguru posted:IIRC, heated shot was mostly used by forts firing at ships. In the Horatio Hornblower stories, they always knew when they were spotted because the smokestacks on the forts would start chugging. It runs all the way back to Alexander-era Greece. Ships were literally coated in pitch for a long time, fire was an incredible danger.
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Wouldn't heating a cannonball just set off your gunpowder prematurely?
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raverrn posted:Wouldn't heating a cannonball just set off your gunpowder prematurely? According to accounts I've read they used damp wool as wadding. You were supposed to fire as soon as possible after loading the ball, but if you waited too long the steam would dampen the gunpowder and make it useless rather than the heat setting it off.
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Black Thursday by Martin Caidin posted:There is a terrible feeling when a bomber dies. Not just among the crewmen who, if not dead, are abandoning their machine in frantic haste before it becomes their tomb, but among those men in accompanying bombers who watch, help-less to assist, as a tongue of flame licks hungrily from a tear in a wing, feeds on fuel streaming backward, gathers strength, and throws itself through the rest of the airplane. There's more here, though I haven't read far. I was shown this specific quotation and thought it ought to be shared.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:There's more here, though I haven't read far. I was shown this specific quotation and thought it ought to be shared. I heard something similar from a pilot that participated in the Peenemunde raids. His description of an interception by German night fighters was terrifying; they watched them approach for several minutes once their navigation lights became visible, knowing that each one meant likely death for themselves or their squadron mates. He also mentioned a deep sense of grief mixed with relief when the night fighters broke off-- watching bombers plummet out of the stream meant that there would be absent friends back in England, but with that came a sense of relief that at least it wasn't his crew and this survivor guilt haunted him for a very long time.
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FMguru posted:IIRC, heated shot was mostly used by forts firing at ships. In the Horatio Hornblower stories, they always knew when they were spotted because the smokestacks on the forts would start chugging. yes, the realities of heated shot basically dictate non-flammable infrastructure, which means Forts wiegieman posted:It runs all the way back to Alexander-era Greece. Ships were literally coated in pitch for a long time, fire was an incredible danger. wooden ships remind me of the Roald Dahl quote about the Gloster Gladiator, which was basically that if a very clever man were to design something that would burn as readily as possible, he would come up with something a lot like the Gladiator (a biplane fighter airplane mostly made of high surface-to-volume sticks, canvas, petroleum products, and varnish). The same applies to wooden ships - it would be very difficult to invent something designed to burn better.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:IIRC, there was an excellent dramatization of the Rise of the Borgia family back in the 00s that had one of the characters feeling guilty because he had killed a man dishonorably. Not killed a man, but had killed him in a dishonorable fashion. The further back you go from the modern day, the more different the values, customs, and traditions of the time period become. Europeans from the 1500s would be downright alien if we could bring them through time to the present, and vice-versa. and also horrendously smelly considering how much clothing most owned Yes, one thing is being declared honourless by the thing, which could amount to lesser or greater outlawry (ie. leave the country or get murdered, often just be murdered on your way out) - but your honour was your lifeline in general, and people would do a great deal to remove stains on that honour, as it would mean their word wasn't good if it got bad enough. You didn't have much else than your allies, family and word to work with in those times - This is also why insulting others honour is a common matter for the courts, as are murders committed in response to such insults. E: and such cases didn't even just end with settlements. Proving that the deceased behaved in an insulting or dishonourable enough fashion might mean you might get to pay less weregild or even be acquitted alltogether. Tias fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Exploring the history and cultural differences of the concept of honour would be a solid series of something to follow, pod/vodcast/documentary.
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Zach Twamley, the guy who does the (pretty good) when diplomacy fails podcast, wrote a book on the importance of honor in british diplomacy and foreign policy around the first world war. Haven't really gotten into it yet though. Also it was a (masters? phd?) thesis so it does read like uh a school essay, but maybe the content is good
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SeanBeansShako posted:Exploring the history and cultural differences of the concept of honour would be a solid series of something to follow, pod/vodcast/documentary. Definitely. What is a Parrot Gun?
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A very early muzzleloading artillery piece. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrott_rifle
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It's an early rifled muzzle loading artillery piece, I think you meant to say.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's an early rifled muzzle loading artillery piece, I think you meant to say. Fair point.
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Carillon posted:A question about Charles V and I guess the Spanish crown more generally. I know he got into his eyeballs in debt for a lot of different activities, like bribing his way into Emperorship, fighting with France, etc., but do we know what he or his contemporaries thought about debt? Was it considered a lesser evil, did he think he could pay it back without any issues, was it just considered a part of being a king? I'm curious what their conception around taking out loans was, but not sure sure if it's captured in the record at all. I've been recommended a book which tackles this very subject (among many others). Haven't read it myself yet but a friend whose opinion I trust recommended it. Take that for what you will.
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I'm running a military and political sim based around the Korean War. Please join.
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So the gimmick with Modern Pentathlon is to simulate the "experience of a 19th-century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight enemies with pistol and sword, swim, and run to return to his own soldiers." Are there any memoirs or credible stories with an individual doing all five of these things in one incident?
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Arbite posted:So the gimmick with Modern Pentathlon is to simulate the "experience of a 19th-century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight enemies with pistol and sword, swim, and run to return to his own soldiers." I don't know off hand, but I assume any calvary that got dismounted did those things in conjuction except for the swim part.
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piL posted:I don't know off hand, but I assume any calvary that got dismounted did those things in conjuction except for the swim part. I know of two cases in history in which a fleet was captured by cavalry. The French Revolutionary one involved a frozen Dutch port, so probably no swimming, but José Antonio Páez's required swimming on horseback through the Apure river to capture more than a dozen boats.
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hey tank nerds, stole this from the OSHA thread. What's going on?
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Cyrano4747 posted:hey tank nerds, stole this from the OSHA thread. His attempts to milk it went horribly wrong?
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He brought the tank to completion
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Those rubber treads suggest construction vehicle to me. Looks like he released some kind of drainage plug in a reservoir under pressure, but I can't imagine what it could have been. Looks like the fender is covered in splatters of a similar colour, too.
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Does anyone know of a river island in some european river that was a pirate sanctuary for some time. It no longer exists I think, likely flooded for power reasons
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That's the Zaporozhian Sich, the Cossacks built a number of fortifications on several different islands in the Dnieper that are now under the Kakhovka Reservoir.
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Early Soviet tank development (MS-1, Teplokhod AN) Queue: Career of Semyon Aleksandrovich Ginzburg, AT-1, Object 140, SU-76 frontline impressions, Creation of the IS-3, IS-6, SU-5, Myths of Soviet tank building: 1943-44, IS-2 post-war modifications, Myths of Soviet tank building: end of the Great Patriotic War, Medium Tank T6, RPG-1, Lahti L-39, American tank building plans post-war, German tanks for 1946, HMC M7 Priest, GMC M12, GMC M40/M43, ISU-152, AMR 35 ZT, Soviet post-war tank building plans, T-100Y and SU-14-1, Object 430, Pz.Kpfw.35(t), T-60 tanks in combat, SU-76M modernizations, Panhard 178, 15 cm sFH 13/1 (Sf), 43M Zrínyi, Medium Tank M46, Modernization of the M48 to the M60 standard, German tank building trends at the end of WW2, Pz.Kpfw.III/IV, E-50 and E-75 development, Pre-war and early war British tank building, BT-7M/A-8 trials, Jagdtiger suspension, Light Tank T37, Light Tank T41, T-26-6 (SU-26), Voroshilovets tractor trials, Israeli armour 1948–1982, T-64's composite armour, Evolution of German tank observation devices, Oerlikon and Solothurn anti-tank rifles Available for request (others' articles):  Shashmurin's career T-55 underwater driving equipment T-34 tanks with M-17 engines ISU-152 Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Arbite posted:So the gimmick with Modern Pentathlon is to simulate the "experience of a 19th-century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight enemies with pistol and sword, swim, and run to return to his own soldiers." Poniatowski was doing well in all events until he got to the swimming stage. Cessna fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:Available for request (others' articles): I think this is the smallest I've ever seen your list.  My vote is anti-tank rifles just because that's been there forever.
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ANTI TANK RIFULS
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bewbies posted:Do we have any idea what percentage of formal duels ended with someone being killed? Did it vary between swords and guns? It varied greatly based upon the dueling culture. Late 18th and early 19th century UK gun duels seem to have around 6.5% fatality rates. But it can swing between things like dueling among political figures in the French 3rd republic, which had a fatality rate of less than 2%, to gun duels among Prussians, which appear to have like a 29% fatality rate. https://www.jstor.org/stable/42705491 https://books.google.com/books?id=z...atality&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=q...atality&f=false
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feedmegin posted:I think this is the smallest I've ever seen your list. Yes! And I'd like to know if the Fokker T.V was the only plane to use the Solothurn or not.
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feedmegin posted:I think this is the smallest I've ever seen your list. The list is small because Yuri Pasholok (the original author of most of these articles) stopped writing for Warspot. He writes smaller articles for Yandex Zen now, but daily. I haven't thought about how I'm going to organize a queue for these (if at all) yet.
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