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I went through the app, so I have the basic idea of how the game works. That said, how viable is Susanoomons ability?
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Some Numbers posted:I went through the app, so I have the basic idea of how the game works. Hefty as hell Digivolution cost, but he can run in any color of deck, hits for 3 security, packs a 15k DP, and serves as a Terra Force. And all you have to do is flush out your trash and/or shore that trash up with Hybrids in your hand.
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Aug 15, 2021 22:51
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Some Numbers posted:I went through the app, so I have the basic idea. I… I don’t know My guess is it’s at most a 2-of in a Hybrid deck and not the focus. It’s hypothetically easier to get out than BT1 Omnimon, who has a similar spot removal (one that’s actually a bit better imo because it hits multiple Digimon with the same name), because it can evolve off of a Tamer and from any color. It’s a great beat stick but it has a pretty high cost and needs a lot of set up to evolve from a Tamer. I could be wrong and it could be the main focus of a deck, but I think it will be mostly supplemental
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Aug 15, 2021 22:57
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thetoughestbean posted:It’s absolutely easier to learn than Magic, so don’t worry about that. I’d say use the app and if you can, buy some starter decks to play with a friend (the green starter deck is the one that can be most easily modified into being a competitive-ish deck). So aside from "all of them," what would you say would be an ideal set of starters?
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After getting our Digimon X toys and being hit with a nostalgia blast, my husband and I decided to watch Adventure 20. I was a huge fan of the series when I was a kid, but didn't seriously watch any Digimon once Tamers hit the states, until watching Appmon a couple years ago. Adventure 20 is not Appmon. We got through episode 28, I think, and then decided we can't watch any more. This show is just the kids tearfully running from one desperate miracle to the next. Maybe that's true to form for Adventure but I'm too old for it. I will say Devimon was awesome and I wish we had any elaboration at all about him before he got trounced? Maybe that explanation will come later but I'm just sick of the show, I can't watch another 30 episodes of this garbage. We love our Xs, although I feel like my Digimon evolving into Platinum Numemon is a serious indictment of my care. Hoping the next series is good because I'm still in the throes of nostalgia.
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Aug 16, 2021 17:57
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It's really not true to Adventure. I'm rewatching Adventure with a group and it still holds up pretty well.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:00
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I wish this hadn't been my husband's first exposure to Adventure. I probably could have convinced him to watch the original series with me, but there's no way that will happen now. He is enjoying his Digimon X (got Wargrowlmon, the lucky bastard), but other than that I think he hates Digimon now.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:07
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Tell him he only got the crust, and he can't judge without the rest of the pizza.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:09
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Tell him that it's much less flashy, but has a lot more substance.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:12
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Adventure 20 is not Appmon. We got through episode 28, I think, and then decided we can't watch any more. This show is just the kids tearfully running from one desperate miracle to the next. Maybe that's true to form for Adventure but I'm too old for it. I will say Devimon was awesome and I wish we had any elaboration at all about him before he got trounced? Maybe that explanation will come later but I'm just sick of the show, I can't watch another 30 episodes of this garbage. were you enjoying the series before the kids split up or were you disliking it the whole way through? eps 18-31 are extremely dire, i completely agree on that front, i dont know what happened there. but once that arc ends the kids all start to meet up again and they start having a lot more lower stakes character focused episodes that are wayyy better on average aside from the 3 episode long milleniummon arc around 48-50. if you didnt care for the stuff at the beginning either though then that probably wont change your mind. if nothing else i still recommend watching the mimi focused episodes 37, 43, and 55 because those are some of my absolute favorites
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Aug 16, 2021 19:40
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definitely try to go back and watch the older stuff too though, its definitely a lot better on average than adventure 2020
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Aug 16, 2021 19:44
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Some Numbers posted:Tell him that it's much less flashy, but has a lot more substance. Adventure 20 has all the same problems as a modern remake of an old movie. If there’s an old movie he really likes that got a super lovely remake (RoboCop?), draw the comparison.
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sharrrk posted:were you enjoying the series before the kids split up or were you disliking it the whole way through? eps 18-31 are extremely dire, i completely agree on that front, i dont know what happened there. but once that arc ends the kids all start to meet up again and they start having a lot more lower stakes character focused episodes that are wayyy better on average aside from the 3 episode long milleniummon arc around 48-50. if you didnt care for the stuff at the beginning either though then that probably wont change your mind. I was fairly into it until the first Metalgraymon episode. At that point it started to feel tedious. The Mimi episode that comes shortly after that was amazing though. Mimi and Palmon are easily the highlight of the series. My husband and I are also big fans of Koshiro and Tentomon. Actually, Joe and his digimon are great too. There's actually a bit to like, but for the most part I've found the formula of "monsters get bodied by bad guy until they finally/miraculously transform" to be extremely tiresome. Also, the plot makes no sense to me. I don't get how this whole feedback loop of "bad digimon makes bad things happen in the real world and this generates 'data' aka power which is also the means by which they do the bad thing " ... I just don't get it. The whole show just reeks of inevitability and I get that the story is about destiny and fate but I don't know it just needs better fights or something. I know it's a children's battle cartoon but I don't remember Adventure or Adventure 02 being that dire, and as I've mentioned before I thought Appmon was great. EDIT: I also loving hate tri so idk maybe I just don't like Digimon any more. 
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100 degrees Calcium posted:EDIT: I also loving hate tri so idk maybe I just don't like Digimon any more.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:I know it's a children's battle cartoon but I don't remember Adventure or Adventure 02 being that dire, and as I've mentioned before I thought Appmon was great. Adventure and even 02 were not this dire, those shows had things like character development and pacing and coherent settings and properly told story arcs. As for Tri, welcome to a thread full of diehard Digimon fans who to varying levels hated its loving guts. Disliking Tri doesn't somehow preclude you from being a Digimon fan. I'm an absolute lifer for the franchise and I will poo poo on every one of those seven movies to varying degrees because I think the whole product was absolutely toxic rubbish.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:I know it's a children's battle cartoon but I don't remember Adventure or Adventure 02 being that dire, and as I've mentioned before I thought Appmon was great. You're contradicting yourself. You said Appmon was great (undeniably correct) and you hate Tri (undeniably correct) - both of which came out around the same time. It's not you, it's that you're seeing some of the worst the franchise has to offer. Digimon is still super good, you just have to get out of the Adventure nostalgia trip that Toei wants us to submerge ourselves into. There's so many good shows to watch! I imagine you've watched Tamers, but if you haven't, that's widely praised and for good reason (just don't watch Tamers 2021 ever). Savers was the first attempt at getting the old audience back but was done significantly better and is a really good series too. Xros Wars is decent, definitely a better watch than Adventure: and Tri. If you're into manga, V-Tamer and Xros Wars are both excellent reads, and Next is decent. If you want videogames, the Cyber Sleuth duology is goddamn amazing and Next Order is a lot of fun and a big improvement over the original World. Please don't think the franchise isn't for you anymore due to Toei's terrible handling of Adventure. There's a lot more to it, and a lot of it is genuinely very good.
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Some Numbers posted:So aside from "all of them," what would you say would be an ideal set of starters? I’d say get the green and purple starter decks. There’s also two more starter decks coming out in a couple months alongside the next set that would be worth checking out but that’s only if you’re willing to wait.
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finally got around to making the next of my DIM Card style Sprite Charts, this time for Tentomon; with the Evolution paths for it past Adult going as such; Kabuterimon-> AtlurKabuterimon*, Bolgmon, Flybeemon Kuwagamon-> OKuwamon, AtlurKabuterimon*, Valvemon Yanmamon-> Flybeemon, OKuwamon, Nanomon Mechanorimon-> Nanomon, Valvemon, Bolgmon AtlurKabuterimon-> HerculesKabuterimon, Omedamon OKuwamon-> GranKuwagamon, Ebemon Flybeemon-> GranKuwagamon, HerculesKabuterimon Bolgmon-> Omedamon, HerculesKabuterimon Valvemon-> Omedamon, Ebemon Nanomon-> Ebemon, GranKuwagamon next will probably be either Palmon or Gomamon *which color of AtlurKabuterimon shows up would be randomized(with maybe slightly different odds depending on which Adult evolves into it or Jogress combination), would be a purely cosmetic difference though(did this because I couldn't decide which color I wanted to use, and subsequently realizing this would be a fun little thing to do)
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https://twitter.com/digimon_tcg/status/1427555805243482115?s=19quote:Bokomon I didn't expect these guys to get cards. I didn't expect them to be good. These are basically everything you would want in a hybrid deck
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I very much approve of Omedamon being there.thetoughestbean posted:I didn't expect these guys to get cards. I didn't expect them to be good. These are basically everything you would want in a hybrid deck
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drrockso20 posted:finally got around to making the next of my DIM Card style Sprite Charts, this time for Tentomon; I definitely feel like Omedamon should be in the bottom mega slot; that's the one that is the final boss of that DiM's story mode and can't be evolved into until you complete the story mode. Ebemon doesn't quite have the punch for that, IMO.
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The Golux posted:I definitely feel like Omedamon should be in the bottom mega slot; that's the one that is the final boss of that DiM's story mode and can't be evolved into until you complete the story mode. Ebemon doesn't quite have the punch for that, IMO. Wasn't aware of that aspect, not sure I'll bother with that consistently in future charts(much like how I mostly ignore Joggers for these even though it is a part of how they work) since aesthetics and to a degree logic are top priority when I make these*, but good to know *for example I was originally going to use TyrantKabuterimon in the slot Ebemon currently occupies as I did find a couple fan made sprites for him(and felt that he would work well with the perfects I had chosen) but on closer inspection both sprites had too big of flaws for me to want to use them so I bounced around other ideas(Parasimon I disliked cause while he was great for Nanomon he didn't really jive well with anyone else, while Tigervespamon felt redundant with Omedamon on there, to give a couple examples) until I decided that Ebemon would work well enough
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Tai’s VA (Adventure 2020) has been diagnosed with covid: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-08-18/boruto-eureka-7-voice-actress-yuko-sanpei-diagnosed-with-covid-19/.176392
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gently caress, didn't realise they were Tai too. Man Eureka Seven is cursed
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October V-Jump is out and we got some stuff to talk about here. First of all, we finally know one of the two new Digimon in the Digivice: that were a mystery until now: Negamon. More info in the thread about it and what will happen in Adventure: around it. https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1428237130686517256?s=19 We also got the next two Dim Cards: Judgement of Heaven and Karma of God. The former will focus on holy Digimon, the latter on Japanese-style Digimon. https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1428241198234406916 And we got some information about our Ghost Game trio. Not much, but it does confirm all three are Child-level Digimon since Angoramon wasn't quite obvious. https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1428221705521147905
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Aug 19, 2021 13:13
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Negamon is the most uninspired looking last boss we’ve ever had
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The final boss is . . . Literally just Whamon? What? There's no way this can be right.
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Maybe it’s more like a giant amorphous flying mouth orb and it looks like Whamon because it’s flying around?
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It's kinda like a crappier Rareraremon Ooooh I want the KARMA OF GOD DiM real bad, I love Eastern mythology Digimon
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The full set list for bt7 drops tomorrow, for now have some interesting black cards quote:SkullKnightmon  quote:DarkKnightmon
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Aug 19, 2021 15:15
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So the final boss of Adventure 2020 is literally just Kisame’s sword from Naruto? https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Samehada
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thetoughestbean posted:The full set list for bt7 drops tomorrow, for now have some interesting black cards Maybe if it let you jump straight to a Mega, that might be worth it. Edit: Lol, the “without paying its cost” part is actually still more expensive than just evolving it directly. SkullKnightmon literally worse than useless. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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girl dick energy posted:Well that’s a dead fish strategy if I ever saw one. All that work of getting two specific Adults on the field, and all you get is an above average Perfect with a floating effect? I think it’s pretty interesting. Most level 5s that people play have around 6-7k power. Because of the inheritance, DarkKnightmon is attacking for 9k with two security attacks. That’s pretty good early aggro that won’t die to most of the other player’s security, and if it does, it can float into the DeadlyAxemon for the search effect, or to the SkullKnightmon to set up another attack. Being sticky is really good in this game because of how security means having a consistent board presence is important. The two champions is less of a problem when one searches the other, plus you can cheat them from the deck with Pride Memory Boost (revealed from the beginning of the set) quote:Pride Memory Boost (4 memory cost)
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About Negamon, it should be noted that there were two unknown Digimon in the Digivice:. Negamon is clearly the "Great Catastrophe" according to V-Jump, but the other Digimon was a big ball of darkness with an eye, like the one we've seen several times in the show so far. They're likely one and the same, but in different forms. I don't think Negamon's our final battle, is what I'm trying to say.
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I love Mitamamon and want that DiM set, but apparently it's in limbo now like the Tamers EX Set. https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1428249101418831874
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Man, fumbling the ball until the very end. One thing about Adventure: that's been real disappointing is the villains and their total lack of personality. Digimonsters of the week get to have one (sometimes) but the main villains have empty voids of generic evil. And yeah most of the original villains were also generically evil, but at least they had a personality about it. I'll be surprised if Negamon even has something to say.
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TheHan posted:Man, fumbling the ball until the very end. One thing about Adventure: that's been real disappointing is the villains and their total lack of personality. Digimonsters of the week get to have one (sometimes) but the main villains have empty voids of generic evil. And yeah most of the original villains were also generically evil, but at least they had a personality about it. I'll be surprised if Negamon even has something to say. That's one of the biggest issues in a series full of them, yeah. Devimon at least got a backstory, if too late, but we got a million monsters of the week that could only roar, and then the apparent big bad in Millenniumon...could only roar and lasted a whole one episode. It's hard to believe Negamon will be any better. The only recurring villain that's memorable in this show is Ogremon. That said we did get some good monster of the week antagonists at least. Several of which stuck around as friends later, or reappeared at some point, so that's at least nice.
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Some folks on Wikimon insist the Negamon is actually Negermon, based off of this: https://twitter.com/dragondramon/status/1428259492198854656?s=21
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Aug 20, 2021 00:46
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I really hope we don't name the Digimon after a Nazi submarine that can easily be turned into a slur.
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Japan Please Don't
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