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I've boycotted amazon for a while now. Personally it's not hard.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've boycotted amazon for a while now. Personally it's not hard. It's not hard unless you include AWS.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:00
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I think all these abandoned malls and retail spaces are going to bought up by churches
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BiggerBoat posted:I think all these abandoned malls and retail spaces are going to bought up by churches They should be bought up to make public housing.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've boycotted amazon for a while now. Personally it's not hard. It's also surprising how often they arnt the cheapest, not even close.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:33
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've boycotted amazon for a while now. Personally it's not hard. Yeah, I get totally confused when goons freak out about the Amazon retail monopoly. There are so many competing big retailers, both online and not, where you can buy your stuff.
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Aug 20, 2021 15:00
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CommieGIR posted:They should be bought up to make public housing. There is no feasible way to turn a mall into housing. It's literally cheaper to demolish it and start over. Even cheaper than that to not demo it and build something elsewhere.
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Motronic posted:There is no feasible way to turn a mall into housing. It's literally cheaper to demolish it and start over. Even cheaper than that to not demo it and build something elsewhere. Eh, I don't think that's entirely true, and there's been some studies showing you could feasibly do so. The problem is, when it comes to demolishing a mall, it usually just gets turned into luxury apartments rather than public goods.
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Aug 20, 2021 15:08
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CommieGIR posted:Eh, I don't think that's entirely true, and there's been some studies showing you could feasibly do so. The problem is, when it comes to demolishing a mall, it usually just gets turned into luxury apartments rather than public goods. They do lend themselves to becoming a different type of public/private space, whether that's a community center or offices or some combination of the two. There have been a few turned into offices, datacenters, libraries even a hockey rink. Some of those mixed used ones even have some limited residential in them, but going full on resi is just an expensive waste. They don't have anywhere near sufficient plumbing and are very expensive to heat/cool. The ones that have been converted to primarily residential were largely political stunts/funneling money into preferred contractors pockets.
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Aug 20, 2021 15:32
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Motronic posted:The ones that have been converted to primarily residential were largely political stunts/funneling money into preferred contractors pockets. That's gonna be any public housing, whether its converting a mall or otherwise. There's plenty of endless stories where this happened during the large Public Housing buildouts in New York and other places.
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Mega Comrade posted:It's also surprising how often they arnt the cheapest, not even close. I use Amazon all the time for their question/answers section and reviews before buying the product somewhere else, it's a great database of weird information I need to know about stuff. And there's some things like clothes where Amazon isn't just not the cheapest, but basically the worst possible for price and quality.
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Did you guys already talk about the Onlyfans thing? Because that scares for me reasons beyond porn. A lot of the people that push for poo poo like this to happen tend to also want LGBT content, regardless of actual sexual content, off the internet as well. What terrifies me is that most people don't realize that?
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Aug 20, 2021 16:25
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Well it's good to know those fake reviews help someone.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:25
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BigRed0427 posted:Did you guys already talk about the Onlyfans thing? Because that scares for me reasons beyond porn. No its OK. Mastercard and visa turned their logo rainbow for a month. They'd never do anything like that.
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CommieGIR posted:That's gonna be any public housing, whether its converting a mall or otherwise. There's plenty of endless stories where this happened during the large Public Housing buildouts in New York and other places. Oh, well, never mind then. Might as well use the least suited structures to do it. I see your point.
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The idea of using giant, unsuited structures in questionable locations to provide housing continues to be such a powerful idea because it allows us to believe we don't already know how to build affordable housing in conventional ways. This is, of course, bullshit; we very much know how to do this, and we choose not to do it. I think it's the same with the idea of using shipping containers, another idea that comes up an unreasonable amount. I think it also comes down to the fact that people who already have normal housing -- the sort we should build as affordable housing -- want a very clear distinction between how they live, and how the poors live. That's why they believe poor people should live in shipping containers and repurposed malls, instead of normal residential housing. If poor people simply get a discounted or free residence, how will those people feel superior? PT6A fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 16:35
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+1 for dead indoor shopping malls to be terrible candidates for housing conversion in anything but the most densely built-out areas.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:42
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Tesla pulled a Saudi Arabia and dressed up someone as a robot to promote their claimed robot that will use Autopilot components. https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s=20
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Aug 20, 2021 17:07
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I wonder if some shoe is about to drop re: Tesla
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If you want to see some real robots take a look at what they're doing over at Boston Dynamics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk Doesn't even look real. E: their "behind the scenes" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EezdinoG4mk America Inc. fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 18:18
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i like how a giga dollar company cant even disguise the
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TheScott2K posted:+1 for dead indoor shopping malls to be terrible candidates for housing conversion in anything but the most densely built-out areas. i had a pair of dear friends start a campaign to acquire our local dying indoor mall and convert it to an indoor 'free living' community because, according to them, it would be the perfect place to convert into living units and it would inspire communitarian living in the major internal spaces the details of how they were just going to have a mall in the middle of the city handed over to become a free living community were, of course, as hazy as they ever are in these unbounded zine-level social activism dreams, but it ended the moment i went ahead and said 'hey check this out' and showed them utility statements and maintenance statements for a relatively similar sized mall and laid out how much they would be paying per month to climate control the structure to the absolute minimum necessary for habitability plus budget for annual expected maintenance at also absolute minimums (resurfacing rubber roofing, etc) air conditioning / heating them can run $600 per day per 100k square feet, so your average mall is pulling over a thousand dollars a day just for climate control, and before you even factor in the costs for electricity. if those bills don't get paid the place quickly becomes unlivable and the pipes freeze and bust in the first cold snap and all that
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TheScott2K posted:I wonder if some shoe is about to drop re: Tesla
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Staluigi posted:air conditioning / heating them can run $600 per day per 100k square feet, so your average mall is pulling over a thousand dollars a day just for climate control, and before you even factor in the costs for electricity. if those bills don't get paid the place quickly becomes unlivable and the pipes freeze and bust in the first cold snap and all that People tend to forget that outside some real goldilocks zones, keeping people comfy is more of a side effect of climate control
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They already have physical book stores. You could see this coming a mile away.
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BigRed0427 posted:Did you guys already talk about the Onlyfans thing? Because that scares for me reasons beyond porn. No, it hadn't been mentioned before and I had to look up what you were talking about. So Onlyfans is banning sexually explicit content. The reasons seem to be manifold: - illegal content including cp was proliferating on the site, and moderation of said content was lacking or even intentionally turning a blind eye, - investors are afraid of investing in sites with sexual content, and - banks pressured the company to ban sexually explicit content. This is going to hurt sex workers for sure, but it seems like Onlyfans itself is to blame as well for poorly handling sexual content such that it started to spook financial institutions. E: it looks like the recent Bella Thorne controversy might be involved here too - you could make a whole write-up analysing what went wrong here. But it's not anything of the sort of some internet mob of conservatives trying to ban porn or something. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 19:14
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How is what OnlyFans is doing substantially different from any other porn (or general video) streaming site with subscriptions/tips/other payment options?
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It's not, which is why SESTA/FOSTA was designed to go after the payment gateways like this instead of the sites themselves.
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Aug 20, 2021 19:38
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My understanding of it is that the current majority owner is trying to sell part/all of his stake and couldn't find anyone willing to buy at the price he wanted. There's smaller pool of people who want to own porn companies in general, and some sketchy onlyfans specific stuff around age verification for performers and money laundering. Owner guy's galaxy galaxybrained idea is to stop being a porn company instead of fixing the sketchy things
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Aug 20, 2021 19:43
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duz posted:It's not, which is why SESTA/FOSTA was designed to go after the payment gateways like this instead of the sites themselves. No, SESTA/FOSTA removed the Section 230 safe harbor for websites. This made sites which host content potentially responsible for hosting any content which is involved in sex trafficking. Payment providers don't factor in AFAICT. So this puts the owners of Onlyfans at quite a bit of risk if they're facilitating illegal activity.
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CommieGIR posted:Tesla pulled a Saudi Arabia and dressed up someone as a robot to promote their claimed robot that will use Autopilot components. I'd say that I'm irritated by Musk's constant never-ending stream of false promises where he just expects us to forget all the other poo poo he said he would do, but I'm more amused by the investors who keep throwing money at him despite all of that.
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my two cents on the onlyfans shitbomb. Lol at soooo many internet golden gooses killing or hurting their goose because they're too lazy too mod themseleves. 0) dont have cp and other vile stuff.
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no hay camino posted:No, SESTA/FOSTA removed the Section 230 safe harbor for websites. This made sites which host content potentially responsible for hosting any content which is involved in sex trafficking. Payment providers don't factor in AFAICT. So this puts the owners of Onlyfans at quite a bit of risk if they're facilitating illegal activity. Pretty much why Pornhub had to purge a poo poo ton of content and now only allows videos from verified uploaders.
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They're looking to get acquired by somebody larger but nobody in tech will give the time of day to a company with an actual business model and active revenue stream, as that speaks to complacency and a lack of vision.
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Speaking of Amazon moving more into low-tech space, they're apparently just installing lockers on sidewalks in public parks because ???  This one too, the gently caress?? 
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no hay camino posted:So Onlyfans is banning sexually explicit content. The reasons seem to be manifold: Since I've seen it come up other places, note that the breathless reporting on bad or uneven moderation was a small part actual bad poo poo and a lot of "some girl smoked weed on camera so we told her that was a strike and not to do it again."
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no hay camino posted:This is going to hurt sex workers for sure, but it seems like Onlyfans itself is to blame as well for poorly handling sexual content such that it started to spook financial institutions. If the government wants to have oversight over the content platforms are allowing and how that content is being moderated it should do that (and I think it should), but SESTA/FOSTA has placed a bunch of private companies in that role. Google and Apple and Facebook are now the sex police; they control a massive amount of what people have access to and they don't answer to anyone. The potential collateral damage extends beyond sexworkers. They don't seem to give a poo poo if you're making them enough money, but even stuff like grindr is well outside of what's ostensibly allowed on both Google Play and the App Store. Wallet fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 21:17
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If Facebook won't, why would anyone else.
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eXXon posted:Speaking of Amazon moving more into low-tech space, they're apparently just installing lockers on sidewalks in public parks because ??? i don't know the regulatory details, so i can't be sure if it's actually an issue, but i'm curious if there are potential ada concerns here
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i don't know the regulatory details, so i can't be sure if it's actually an issue, but i'm curious if there are potential ada concerns here I'd assume they're following the Uber approach where "breaking the law is part of the business model"
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