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Admiral Joeslop posted:Was there ever an angle in the heyday of managers where a face manager is forced to manage a heel, or the other way around? I'm imaging Heenan having to lead The Rockers successfully or he gets fired. DDP being managed by The Diamond Doll kind of had that energy.
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Renaissance Spam posted:No I'm fully prepared to consider Paul Bearer a manager in the same way Miss Elizabeth was. There are two matches in ROH where Heenan manages a team of faces against Cornette who manages heels and they both try to out cheat the other and it's really loving funny to see Heenan do all his usual stuff but for the faces.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 05:07 |
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Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean:
Bam Neely, Braden Walker and the Gymini (kind of roided out, I guess) come to mind. That said, I support they could all complete a match and wrestle somewhat so there are probably some better choices (especially in WCW and TNA).
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 05:29 |
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Erik Watts
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 05:34 |
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Don Valentine is the Ur-Example
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Lid posted:Don Valentine is the Ur-Example I was not aware of this man until now and I will never forgive you.
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean: Dominik Mysterio
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean: Certainly David Flair, I don't know if he got better or not.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 05:57 |
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Manu.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 06:01 |
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Greg Gagne
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 06:11 |
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Great selections so far. Don Valentine rocks. I'm not 100% on Dominik but I see it. I thought he had a passable match with Seth at some PPV and I guess "being a Mysterio" is kind of a character/gimmick. He's pretty bad, though. Does Sim Snuka count, too? lol there were so many dire wrestlers on TV during that time
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 06:39 |
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J - E DOUBLE F J - A DOUBLE R - E - DOUBLE T DOUBLE J JEFF JARRETT AIN'T HE GREAT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQYdgMRwz2Y&t=3570s https://twitter.com/FO_VVerhei/status/1140171626224316416?t=rpRwzGkcIDAL_DYC4E-f4g&s=19
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 07:15 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slL8f5i44iM Don Valentine. Unforgettable, just ask his opponents.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXZEpYlCeg I like this one
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean: George Goulas. Daddy said sell!
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 08:13 |
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Bam Neely just confused me, honestly. Hey, let's take this random schmuck, give him a name referencing a 90's NHL power forward and just throw him on TV. What were the other ideas? John DesPair? Beef Tkachuk?
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 09:28 |
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Bobson Dugnutt
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 09:32 |
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean: Mass Transit?
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 09:42 |
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this is a good one. get this. the guy i don't frigging like
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 10:10 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Bobson Dugnutt Ron Tugnutt was a goalie, not a forward. Don't be silly.
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Looten Plunder posted:Is Matt Hardy walking/wrestling like he has zero knees, hip flexibility or discs in his back just his gimmick or is his body actually broken? Dude has taken a lot of bumps over the years, his body is probably not doing great. If I remember correctly, he has regretted using the diving leg drop in his early years, saying it hosed up his hip.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 10:41 |
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Custard Undies posted:Mass Transit? never on tv, was a last second fill in for a house show.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:never on tv, was a last second fill in for a house show. I did wonder about that. That makes the incident even worse....
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 10:58 |
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< posted:Dude has taken a lot bumps over the years, his body is probably not doing great. A hip sounds about right. He just looks so awkward and stiff and it's all i can look at when he wrestles. It's like he can't bend his knees or even put one foot front of the other. A lot of the time, he kind of crab shuffles rather than steeping "right-foot forward, left-foot-forward" I thought it might be part of the "Broken-Matt " gimmick but he's not doing that anymore
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Totally subjective, but who are some of the straight-up shittest and irredeemable wrestlers to make it onto TV? By that I mean: David Flair
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 11:24 |
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Braden Walker probably doesn't belong without qualifying it, because as Chris Harris in TNA he was pretty decent, it even looked like he might be their 1st homegrown breakout guy for a while, or at least right behind AJ Styles anyway I have no idea what happened to him in WWE. Or rather, why he suddenly looked so much physically worse and seemed to have forgotten anything he'd learned in wrestling. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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Looten Plunder posted:Is Matt Hardy walking/wrestling like he has zero knees, hip flexibility or discs in his back just his gimmick or is his body actually broken?
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 11:59 |
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Matt talked about it in The Hardy Boyz book, but his hip sockets (and I don't know if I'm describing this correctly) are further back(?)/to the side(?) where everyone else's are, so that's why he always had an odd looking stance/run. Can't imagine 25 years of bumps were good for them.
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TheKingslayer posted:Forceable Entry? Thank you And who was under the hood as the Machine in that match with DDP in WCW? You know, the one where he crotches himself on the ropes by jumping halfway across the ring from the turnbuckle and screaming at the top of his lungs while jumping up and down.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 13:33 |
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Which of these would be worst? - Ric Flair in the NWO - Hulk Hogan in the Four Horsemen - Bret Hart in De-generation X - Shawn Michaels in The Hart Foundation
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 13:47 |
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Hogan in the Horsemen, easily.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 13:50 |
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Yeah, I think Hogan in the Horsemen would be the worst because he'd so clearly try to overshadow and gently caress over everyone else in the group. The Horsemen were essentially nWo before nWo – a bunch of ruthless dickheads who were also cool and had crowd support in a lot of places. Bret in DX would be really weird and I can't even begin to imagine how he'd try to force DX-style promos. Babyface HBK in the Hart Foundation probably makes the most sense out of all of them, barring Montreal and all of the fallout of that. He's got Heart right in his nickname!
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Thank you Emory Hale/Hail, who oddly enough ended being managed by Jimmy Hart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXxBKb3JL5o
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Destroy My Sweater posted:
I thought of this question in the dentist's chair this morning: What are the weirdest, worst, or most pointless political gimmicks in wrestling? The Truth Commission really stood out to me, because I can't imagine a lot of American wrestling fans were even aware of South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It was in poor taste without being relevant to the audience in the same way that the Nation of Domination was. For gimmicks that aren't characters, the Collision in Korea was an absolutely bizarre stunt. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Beau James. (I don't know if it counts if you're only on TV because you're the promoter.) Come on now Beau has a unique look.
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Zombie Lemur posted:Emory Hale/Hail, who oddly enough ended being managed by Jimmy Hart. Thank you
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Zombie Lemur posted:Bam Neely just confused me, honestly.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Braden Walker probably doesn't belong without qualifying it, because as Chris Harris in TNA he was pretty decent, it even looked like he might be their 1st homegrown breakout guy for a while, or at least right behind AJ Styles anyway I think the prevailing theory is the WWE's various BS got to him. The "you ain't poo poo, you can't work, how dare you think your previous experience means anything" stuff broke him.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Which of these would be worst? Flair, especially in his later years could have easily filled the DiBiase role. Hogan would have stuck out like a sore thumb, and as already stated, his tendency to Kramer into the spotlight would have been at odds with the ethos of the group. Hart, especially in 1997 would have been a terrible choice for D-X, and definitely would have stuck out as well. HBK, esp. if it were the born-again version who was less of a dickhead, probably would have been a good fit. Can’t imagine he’d have been happy playing second fiddle in any group, though.
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