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buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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What a terrible snype, Jesus Christ Content: show looks aesthetic as hell, much more Tolkien than GRRM (which matches it's inspiration I guess  )
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Sep 3, 2021 01:39
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ChickenWing posted:What a terrible snype, Jesus Christ i respectfully disagree
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Sep 3, 2021 01:40
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:My bet is they move Mat's Healing up. He's dead weight till that happens and the best character afterwards. I'm very much looking forward to that scene when he's full creep. “Pretty Nynaeve..." etc
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Sep 3, 2021 02:05
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Yeah to me it appears that they moved Logain's capture to happen after the story of the books has begun. I assume that the trailer mostly showed scenes from the first three episodes since they're being released together on Nov 19th. What I think is that after the group splits when they flee from Shadar Logoth, Lan, Moraine, and Nynaeve end up stumbling across the Aes Sedai who have captured Logain. Logain attempts to escape, Moraine is probably injured during this (scene of her being healed and her not being in the scenes with the other Aes Sedai) and is recovering as Lan and Nynaeve get caught up in the Dragonsworn attacking. In the books one of the Aes Sedai sent to capture Logain is killed and I assume this happens here too, explaining the shot of the warder holding the ring and crying. Giving Logain a bigger role is a good idea, it helps make his eventually healing from being stilled more emotionally relevant for the viewers, it gives viewers an idea of what a danger male channelers can be, and it also shows how powerful the name Dragon Reborn is if he can gather an army just by declaring himself. I really hope in season 2 they get to the part where Rand sees Logain in the cage and Logain stares at him and starts laughing since he can see Rand is ta'veren, I love that.
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Sep 3, 2021 02:20
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Ok I finally had the chance to cast the teaser to my Roku and on the big TV with some bass the it looks even cooler. I asked my sweet girlfriend if she'd check it out and though she's not really into fantasy books (watched GoT tho) she thought it was intriguing enough that she'd like to check out the show. I'm getting more hyped!
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Sep 3, 2021 02:28
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I'm lost on the colors complaint. Ajahs, Tinkers, Gleeman's patchwork cloaks, etc. The series is *very* colorful. If anything it's toned down since it doesn't look like weave's have their own colors.
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Sep 3, 2021 02:44
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Nobody's complaining about the colors. They're appreciating that the colors are there instead of being the typical washed-out drabness.
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Sep 3, 2021 02:55
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thrawn527 posted:Holy hell. It looks good! They may not have screwed this up! You have described my feelings pretty well. (hype hype hype)
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Sep 3, 2021 03:03
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buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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Sep 3, 2021 04:01
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ChickenWing posted:Content: show looks aesthetic as hell, much more Tolkien than GRRM (which matches it's inspiration I guess Yeah, I'm getting a lot of LOTR vibes from the trailer, especially the Emond field's scenes. Which fits the book 1 aesthetic just fine. It looks like the show is using the Aes Sedai ceremonial dress for everything so far? Makes sense for the scenes we've seen so far, except for capturing Logain. Meeting the Amyrlin Seat in the White Tower would be be using ceremonial outfits, the same way military, religious, and political organizations do now. Same for doing a public parade of a captured Logain, they're showing off. Doesn't make as much sense tromping through the woods or capturing Logain, but considering how often aes sedai did flaunt their ajah colors in the book, and which ajah are being shown, I'm willing to give them this.
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Sep 3, 2021 04:04
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I assume they are using the colored dress as visual shorthand to replace the Shawls and Ageless face. Could also be using it to emphasize the divided Ajahs from the start of the story.
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Sep 3, 2021 04:47
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MadHat posted:I assume they are using the colored dress as visual shorthand to replace the Shawls and Ageless face. Could also be using it to emphasize the divided Ajahs from the start of the story. yeah, looks like that they're not doing the ageless face thing. it could have been done easily if they had chosen elderly botoxed actresses
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Sep 3, 2021 08:25
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I still think it was a mistake to have a White Ajah. Have 6 (or 5 without grey) "color" ajahs, and then the Amyrlyn and the Keeper wear white. Since white is all colors, that would make a potent symbol of the Amyrlin being all ajahs, and would make a proper contrast to the Black Ajah. It's not like there are too few Aes Sedai characters, and combining white and brown for example would make sense (bookish plus logic focused), as well as grey and yellow (healing nations/communities through diplomacy and negotiation would fit the yellows imho).
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Sep 3, 2021 08:43
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Torrannor posted:I still think it was a mistake to have a White Ajah. Have 6 (or 5 without grey) "color" ajahs, and then the Amyrlyn and the Keeper wear white. Since white is all colors, that would make a potent symbol of the Amyrlin being all ajahs, and would make a proper contrast to the Black Ajah. It's not like there are too few Aes Sedai characters, and combining white and brown for example would make sense (bookish plus logic focused), as well as grey and yellow (healing nations/communities through diplomacy and negotiation would fit the yellows imho). yeah, i couldn't even remember what the greys did
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Sep 3, 2021 08:51
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Torrannor posted:I still think it was a mistake to have a White Ajah. Have 6 (or 5 without grey) "color" ajahs, and then the Amyrlyn and the Keeper wear white. Since white is all colors, that would make a potent symbol of the Amyrlin being all ajahs, and would make a proper contrast to the Black Ajah. It's not like there are too few Aes Sedai characters, and combining white and brown for example would make sense (bookish plus logic focused), as well as grey and yellow (healing nations/communities through diplomacy and negotiation would fit the yellows imho). Eh. Browns are about gathering and preserving worldly knowledge, while Whites disdain that sort of thing in favor of logic and philosophy. I feel like you'd be better off deleting the Whites entirely rather than trying to meld them with the Brown Ajah. Yellow and Gray would also be a bad match, imo. Yellow is all about the very technical Power-intensive skill of Healing, which is a vastly different focus from the Power-light area of diplomacy and politics. Imagine making doctors into diplomats because 'well, you could consider diplomacy the act of healing nations, and since doctors heal bodies their MD should also make them good at diplomacy because they're both forms of healing.' If you want to cut an Ajah and leave White for the Amyrlin, I'd fold the politics and diplomacy into the Blues and recolor the White Ajah as gray. Moiraine is the main blue you see and she's definitely got the political/diplomatic chops to make it a very reasonable focus area for blues, as do Siuan and Leane.
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Sep 3, 2021 09:38
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Iirc they go from biggest to smallest Green- Battle mages, multiple Warders Red- hunt men who can channel, no Warders Yellow- Healers Grey- Mediators Brown- General academics Blue- You're a loose cannon but dammit you get results White- Philosophers There's a lot of weird overlap and the books gave the Whites and Greys really short shrift overall. I also find it weird that there are so few Blues and comparatively tons of Greens considering Blue Ajah seems to mostly be 'do whatever the gently caress you want' while Greens are supposedly in the line of fire more.
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Sep 3, 2021 09:41
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Green ajah = fuckin' ajah. You'll likely never see battle because Aes Sedai don't actually do anything useful other than meddle in the affairs of kings, so why not spend your days getting railed by 1 to 3 supernaturally buff, indefatigable dudes that you share an empathetic connection with. It's no wonder it's such a popular choice, sign me the gently caress up
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Khizan posted:Eh. Browns are about gathering and preserving worldly knowledge, while Whites disdain that sort of thing in favor of logic and philosophy. I feel like you'd be better off deleting the Whites entirely rather than trying to meld them with the Brown Ajah. The Gathering Storm, Chapter 12 posted:"We would very much like to have you in the Yellow, I think," the woman [Suana Dragand, head of the Yellow Ajah] said. Granted, some of her desire to see Egwene join her ajah likely goes beyond thinking she's be a good fit for the Yellow. But it's not like she could tell an outright lie, so if she says that being skilled in Healing isn't an absolute requirement to join them, then it must be true. Which is why I think the grey ajah could have been folded into the yellow ajah, under the premise of "fixing things that are broken", through diplomacy and mediation. And a successfully mediated conflict that thanks to Aes Sedai influence doesn't devolve into war amounts to preventive healing, too.
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Sep 3, 2021 11:01
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:My bet is they move Mat's Healing up. He's dead weight till that happens and the best character afterwards. It changes motivations somewhat for TGH--they would not be going after Padan Fain for the dagger AND the horn, for not really much more increase in "Cool Mat" time. I don't know about this. It's not like Mat's entirely dead weight, just play up more of his "even while he's mentally and physically ill he's still doing his best for his friends" angle that's present throughout the Caemlyn road arc and half of TGH. Given what I assume the compressed schedule will be, the difference will be maybe half a season. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Sep 3, 2021 15:16
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eke out posted:they can maybe also try to preserve some of the ambiguity about which of the two rivers kids it is, which doesn't really exist in the books because we're always in Rand's head and he's the obvious protagonist lol. It's Mat in the show. If they literally did this, I would love them for it.
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Sep 3, 2021 16:20
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ninjoatse.cx posted:lol. It's Mat in the show. If they literally did this, I would love them for it. Nuu, luk at me, im da drgorn reburn, lol 
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Sep 3, 2021 16:43
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William Bear posted:Nuu, luk at me, im da drgorn reburn, lol That's also the last time he will be happy again.
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Sep 3, 2021 16:46
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hey, he seems pretty relaxed and happy at the absolute end of the books don't ask me about what happens beforehand to lead to that, though
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Sep 3, 2021 16:50
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:That's also the last time he will be happy again. That's what I love about that shot. Seeing Rand with a big goofy smile is hilarious.
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Sep 3, 2021 17:08
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Rand seemed pretty happy when he told the joke about the man falling out of the tree.
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Sep 3, 2021 17:24
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I'm still kinda sad it sounds like they've cut the prologue. I thought it would have been a fantastic open. Just have it say 3,000 years ago on screen, show the prologue as written, show the creation of dragonmount. Fade to Black and then fade back in with opening credits starting and "present day" at the top of Dragon Mount. And have the narrator start the "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose above Dragon Mount. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning" Then show the travels of the wind blowing across rand land until it gets to the two rivers and blows into Rand walking down the road. And the opening credits would always be the wind blowing from dragonmount to somewhere in the world. Hire me Bezos.
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Sep 3, 2021 17:54
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i recommend you watch “winter dragon”…
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Sep 3, 2021 18:12
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They could always add the prologue later in the series. I mean they kind of have to, don't they? I agree it would have been a really good opening for the whole show though.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:32
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There's absolutely no way that the prologue doesn't show up at some point. I could see it being a pretty intense flashback or Rand dream or something. I can imagine how, in the format of a TV show, one might want to move it around to where it could have the most impact.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:35
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buffalo all day posted:i recommend you watch “winter dragon”… I still think Billy Zane was amazing in that, even with all the poo poo around it. Hell, if they redo the prologue get him back to play the same role.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:41
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costuming give some "The Last Airbender" shivers but mostly cautiously optimistic here. Seems somewhere between kitsch and good
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Sep 3, 2021 18:54
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A complaint I've seen is that everything looks too clean. I think it makes sense for the Aes Sedai to look pristine, but yea Perrin does not look like he's been busting rear end in a blacksmith's shop all day. Rand looks way too Pretty Boy for some farm kid as well IMO. Oh well, whatever. Still excited, I've watched the trailer like 6 times lol.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:59
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emonds field has shingles instead of thatched roofs in the trailer. if they're changing around major characters like Cenn Buie there's no hope for the series at all.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:04
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The first time I read TEotW I was a dumb teen that was actually surprised Rand was the Dragon and that Ba'alzamon was a forsaken and not the Dark One. I wonder if they're going to try to preserve that for the audience in the show. The second reveal might be a reason to skip the prologue.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:12
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Sab669 posted:A complaint I've seen is that everything looks too clean. I think it makes sense for the Aes Sedai to look pristine, but yea Perrin does not look like he's been busting rear end in a blacksmith's shop all day. Rand looks way too Pretty Boy for some farm kid as well IMO. Oh well, whatever. Still excited, I've watched the trailer like 6 times lol. Yeah this combined with the bloom used in the trailer makes the whole thing look very YA fiction
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Sep 3, 2021 19:16
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I think I heard that the first book was written with a sort of... ambiguous isn't the right word, but I don't know a better one... with an "open" ending in case the publisher didn't "go for" book 2. So it's like Baalzamon is The Dark One... but only if EOTW was the only book published?
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Sep 3, 2021 19:17
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How are u posted:There's absolutely no way that the prologue doesn't show up at some point. I could see it being a pretty intense flashback or Rand dream or something. I can imagine how, in the format of a TV show, one might want to move it around to where it could have the most impact. Ya I'm a fan of pushing it back, personally some of my least favorite things are characters talking about something we don't yet understand or flashbacks that won't make sense until they're contextualized later on. Which I guess is ironic given there's a bunch of prophecies and vague meetings with cloaked strangers in WoT but I tended to kinda skim those parts. Actually now I wonder how they'll depict the Age of Legends, or if we'll get a visualization of normal Age of Legends society. That might end up kinda goofy but I'm also really curious what their vision of it would look like. Like it's kinda a hybrid of modern day with fantasy magic world right? Like they had cars and planes and poo poo?
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Sep 3, 2021 19:24
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Utopian sci-fi future but instead of fusion and solar running everything it's clean-burning one power. I'd love to see a glimpse of flying cars and fantastical cities in the show, particularly if it's as they catch fire and burn down from the Breaking. I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but I'm really wondering how they're going to handle the Rhuidean sequence
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah this combined with the bloom used in the trailer makes the whole thing look very YA fiction the first book is straight-up YA fantasy. the second book sort of isn't, the third book breaks from that structurally by having the Chosen One not have hardly any POV . the subject matter and structure of the story both mature over time. it's probably too much to hope for that they try to construct that visually. but it would be sick. this is just one turning of the wheel.
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