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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah this combined with the bloom used in the trailer makes the whole thing look very YA fiction I have no idea what the difference between ya fiction and giant fantasy series is, can you elaborate?
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Yeah some people have speculated that the first season may be shot with a bright visual palette to illustrate the innocence of the protagonists and as the plot develops and the characters mature, that may change. I think that could really work well, if that's what they are going for. The books definitely have that and if they could translate it to a visual medium, that would be great art.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:42
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That sounds dangerously close to a theme, and I have it on good authority those are for eighth grade book reports.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:51
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Chomposaur posted:Ya I'm a fan of pushing it back, personally some of my least favorite things are characters talking about something we don't yet understand or flashbacks that won't make sense until they're contextualized later on. Which I guess is ironic given there's a bunch of prophecies and vague meetings with cloaked strangers in WoT but I tended to kinda skim those parts. Yeah, the AoL had an actually city/continent wide standing network of power flows so that even non-channelers could just kinda "plug in" all the random ter'angreal that are filling up storerooms in the tower. They've gotta have some idea how they're going to depict this stuff because of the awesome visions in book 4. Everything from actual fuckin jetpack infantry and flying cars to FutureTechResearchCollege collapsing when Lanfear drills the bore.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:56
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I hope this bright and cheery fantasy show covers the scene in book three where a shadow entangles itself in a man's hair and literally rips his entire skin off of his body resulting in a dangling flabby skin sack hanging from the ceiling while his still-alive bloody flesh corpse dances and screams in its clothes. WoT may gloss over a lot of the sex but boy howdy does it love some gore from time to time.
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silvergoose posted:I have no idea what the difference between ya fiction and giant fantasy series is, can you elaborate? Sure - YA fiction usually doesn't depict thousands of people being exploded and ground up into pieces by magic threshers.
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Sep 3, 2021 20:06
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yeah it's good to err on too bright at the beginning, given that the series is quite literally about the world descending into The Actual Apocalypse and things are going to get real dark!
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Sep 3, 2021 20:08
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CainsDescendant posted:Utopian sci-fi future but instead of fusion and solar running everything it's clean-burning one power. I'd love to see a glimpse of flying cars and fantastical cities in the show, particularly if it's as they catch fire and burn down from the Breaking. loving carefully if they know what's good for them. Rhuidean is in my top five moments for the entire series and part of that is because it's told backwards. I know that's going to be hard as hell to portray backwards on TV, but if it's told chronologically it loses some of the magic. It's going to be extremely difficult but hopefully they'll have a few seasons to work it out.
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Soysaucebeast posted:loving carefully if they know what's good for them. Rhuidean is in my top five moments for the entire series and part of that is because it's told backwards. I know that's going to be hard as hell to portray backwards on TV, but if it's told chronologically it loses some of the magic. It's going to be extremely difficult but hopefully they'll have a few seasons to work it out. Seriously. There's a lot I'm willing to compromise on to get the show out. Thom plays a guitar instead of a harp? Fine. Camelyn moved to later and some of the towns and villages in the first book get skipped entirely? No worries. Major characters get dropped or compressed? Has to happen. However, I'm not willing to compromise on the three times the books veer off from normal continuity. "I win again, Lews Theron," Rand in Rhuidean, and Aviendha in Rhuidean are some of my favorite parts of the whole thing, and I demand that they be included and done well. If the people who haven't read the books don't get the same "oh holy poo poo!" reaction watching those scene that I had when I read those sections, the show will be a failure, regardless of how well they do anything else. 
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jng2058 posted:However, I'm not willing to compromise on the three times the books veer off from normal continuity. "I win again, Lews Theron," Rand in Rhuidean, and Aviendha in Rhuidean are some of my favorite parts of the whole thing, and I demand that they be included and done well. If the people who haven't read the books don't get the same "oh holy poo poo!" reaction watching those scene that I had when I read those sections, the show will be a failure, regardless of how well they do anything else. I said it before, and I'll say it again, the prologue should go in the Rhuidean sequence. Have the genetic memory flashbacks and follow up with that. Have it be weird and different because it's not his blood, but his soul that's driving the memory. Play it out like there's a real chance that Rand might not be able to accept what he's seeing and lose it like Muradin does. Cut to black with him full frame screaming at the camera, no diegetic sound just "I have won again Lews Therin." Cliffhanger that poo poo. Sure you know they aren't going to end the series there, but that's still some good TV in my book.
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I'd put it at the Eye (where he's trying to deny what he is) or just before Falme (where he proclaims himself) - perhaps as part of the Portal Stone. Assuming, of course, that the rough plot outline is intact.
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You know what, prologue as part of the Portal stone or as a replacement for the mirror universe flashes makes sense, as much as I hate to say it. Realistically those flashes are really difficult to do in a TV show when you can't quickly summarize a lot time into a single sentence. Even if you did like 5 different short flashes, it would be a big budget sink.
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I bet with as fast as they are gonna fly through the books they don’t really touch on the Aiel past stuff much.
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as dope as i think the prologue would be to start it all off and get people immediately hooked, there's definitely opportunities where they can plug it in later and have it be just as relevant
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I didn't even notice the shot of Egwene coming out of the color water had 2 people in the background.
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First post on page 188 so I'm sure it has already been discussed, but I can't wait to watch the TV watching public react to TV's first polycule 
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Franks Happy Place posted:First post on page 188 so I'm sure it has already been discussed, but I can't wait to watch the TV watching public react to TV's first polycule The Expanse already had one of those. Rand's relationship with the 3 ladies doesn't really strike me as a polycule, to be honest.
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Where does big love rate on the polycule scale?cause they did it a while back.
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Single Parents, a fairly pedestrian/vanilla sitcom where half the cast were children had one too. Rand isn't even a very good example, because it's agreed upon by all the members until very much later. It's mostly a guy sleeping around and coercing the women into the situation. So I guess accurate to the more toxic examples of polyamory you see. Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Sure - YA fiction usually doesn't depict thousands of people being exploded and ground up into pieces by magic threshers. Ah, sure; I tend to think of wheel of time's horror and gore as not being the focus enough to make the whole world grimdark. It's there, certainly, but bright and such feels about right for the start of the series, at least.
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How are u posted:The Expanse already had one of those. I don't really even think of them as real relationships, the pattern said rand needed these 3 close influences so he got them boom mother maiden crone. arranged marriages by the matrix
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Min is the best
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:emonds field has shingles instead of thatched roofs in the trailer. if they're changing around major characters like Cenn Buie there's no hope for the series at all. I’ll have you know that in my headcanon Rand’s dragon banner is just a drawing of Trogdor
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buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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Brolander posted:I don't really even think of them as real relationships, the pattern said rand needed these 3 close influences so he got them boom mother maiden crone. arranged marriages by the matrix Min is the crone, lol
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Min is an awesome crone, she rules.
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Brolander posted:I don't really even think of them as real relationships, the pattern said rand needed these 3 close influences so he got them boom mother maiden crone. arranged marriages by the matrix I don't think this pattern remotely applies, they're all maiden at best, maybe a bit of mother too. It's way more of a harem anime, complete with Aviendha as the tsundere
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Aviendha's literally a Maiden, Elayne is pregnant for a bunch of books, and Min is a seer and all wrapped up in seeing fate happen, it's a pretty clear maiden/mother/crone tripartite thing going on. Someone who knows more about the origins of that trope could probably say more about it
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CainsDescendant posted:Aviendha's literally a Maiden, Elayne is pregnant for a bunch of books, and Min is a seer and all wrapped up in seeing fate happen, it's a pretty clear maiden/mother/crone tripartite thing going on. Someone who knows more about the origins of that trope could probably say more about it Aviendha also gets pregnant, and Min being a seer is the only part of the Crone aspect that works, otherwise she doesnt fit at all. Apparently somebody asked RJ and he didn't give a straight answer quote:QUESTION
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Data Graham posted:I’ll have you know that in my headcanon Rand’s dragon banner is just a drawing of Trogdor Stealing this for my headcanon, thx
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No, you see, Min is basically a cougar to Rand.
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CainsDescendant posted:Aviendha's literally a Maiden, Elayne is pregnant for a bunch of books, and Min is a seer and all wrapped up in seeing fate happen, it's a pretty clear maiden/mother/crone tripartite thing going on. Someone who knows more about the origins of that trope could probably say more about it Legion ruled.
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Barreft posted:Legion ruled. It had its warts but overall it's probably my favorite bit of "superhero media". I wish more shows just swung for the fences like it did. I also hope Rand vs. Ba'alzamon in the clouds over Falme is exactly like that David vs Farouk fight
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CainsDescendant posted:It had its warts but overall it's probably my favorite bit of "superhero media". I wish more shows just swung for the fences like it did. I also hope Rand vs. Ba'alzamon in the clouds over Falme is exactly like that David vs Farouk fight Yeah, I want them to show flows of weaves using the colors but people are already complaining it's so colorful. for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r5jqMfbSx8 That's pretty much how magic in WOT works. A big part was two of the strongest channelers just staring at eachother and try to fight and to everyone else they were just standing there. e: oh this is the spoiler thread my bad Barreft fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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CainsDescendant posted:It had its warts but overall it's probably my favorite bit of "superhero media". I wish more shows just swung for the fences like it did. I also hope Rand vs. Ba'alzamon in the clouds over Falme is exactly like that David vs Farouk fight I was recommending it to a friend the other day, and finished with: quote:me: like you start see why I think of Rand when the plot of an episode is "And then David was stuck bodily in the astral plane and had to figure out what the gently caress, because no one had mentioned the astral plane to him before now."
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Cadsuane is the crone archetype. Min, aviendha, and Elaine are modeled on the companionate / passionate/ romantic love type model. Also blonde redhead brunette you see in anime.
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This looks loving astounding. Assuming they clean up some of the FX for actual premiere I don't see anything I don't like here. Even the mono-color Ajah outfits feel right. All the casting looks like they hit the right vibe for everyone, including Tam. I can't believe this is actually happening. RC Cola posted:Did we discuss the episodes? Are they doing the full season drop all at once? I would really hate to have to drib and drab this one. Hieronymous Alloy posted:My bet is they move Mat's Healing up. He's dead weight till that happens and the best character afterwards. 
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Mat Cauthon posted:
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Barreft posted:Yeah, I want them to show flows of weaves using the colors but people are already complaining it's so colorful. I was disappointed by the weaves not being colored, too. I wanted to see strands and weaves, not just magic smoke flowing around.
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I don't want to see any weaves. There's a reason Jordan avoided describing them in detail - just show us the magic.
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