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nine-gear crow posted:JJ. Rian actually wrote and filmed a more definitive death for Phasma in TLJ (and a much better scene over all for her) and then reworked it to be more ambiguous thinking JJ was gonna bring her back for a role in Episode IX only for Abrams to turn around and go "Gwendoline... who?" drat, that rules. Shame JJ was determined to do absolutely nothing good with Star Wars.
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nine-gear crow posted:JJ. Rian actually wrote and filmed a more definitive death for Phasma in TLJ (and a much better scene over all for her) and then reworked it to be more ambiguous thinking JJ was gonna bring her back for a role in Episode IX only for Abrams to turn around and go "Gwendoline... who?" gently caress, that's much better. Really would have shored up Finn's character development as well.
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Did that get cut before or after Trevorrow got the boot? It definitely sets up the arc that is outlined for Finn in his script for the final sequel movie. What a waste of talented actors, smh.
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Sep 3, 2021 15:55
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Mat Cauthon posted:Did that get cut before or after Trevorrow got the boot? It definitely sets up the arc that is outlined for Finn in his script for the final sequel movie. I want to say "after", maybe? Trevorrow getting bounced from Episode IX didn't just derail that film, it also hosed up The Last Jedi in a lot of ways too because Johnson had to suddenly shift from including things that tied into and set up Duel of the Fates to altering things in late production to try and line up with whatever nascent plans Abrams had for what became The Rise of Skywalker... which turned out to be no plans at all. Ya know, part of me is kinda sad that D&D's poorly thought out failson Star Wars movie(s) never got made because I can't think of a better torment for them than to have to face a roiling horde of Star Wars Fans, the worst people in the known universe.
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nine-gear crow posted:I want to say "after", maybe? Trevorrow getting bounced from Episode IX didn't just derail that film, it also hosed up The Last Jedi in a lot of ways too because Johnson had to suddenly shift from including things that tied into and set up Duel of the Fates to altering things in late production to try and line up with whatever nascent plans Abrams had for what became The Rise of Skywalker... which turned out to be no plans at all. Yeah the problem is whatever insanely stupid half-rear end thing D&D the Star Wars fans would probably have randomly loved. I can just see hordes of neckbeard manchildren holding plastic flashlights screaming about how awesome the octopus alien sith using 8 lightsabers was or whatever
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pseudanonymous posted:Yeah the problem is whatever insanely stupid half-rear end thing D&D the Star Wars fans would probably have randomly loved. I can just see hordes of neckbeard manchildren holding plastic flashlights screaming about how awesome the octopus alien sith using 8 lightsabers was or whatever Just as long as there are no women and people of colour in it. Which, hey D&D are low-key racist anyway so it wouldn't have been a problem 
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nine-gear crow posted:JJ. Rian actually wrote and filmed a more definitive death for Phasma in TLJ (and a much better scene over all for her) and then reworked it to be more ambiguous thinking JJ was gonna bring her back for a role in Episode IX only for Abrams to turn around and go "Gwendoline... who?" It's exceptionally fitting that character was played up as "Bobba Fett but better" considering that, like Bobba Fett, they ended being a complete chump. It sucks they wasted a good actress but that character's end was about what I'd expected as soon as they started getting hyped up so much. nine-gear crow posted:Just as long as there are no women and people of colour in it. Which, hey D&D are low-key racist anyway so it wouldn't have been a problem Episode IX opens with Finn falling into an open reactor core, grabbing Rose to try and save himself but dooming her as well. D&D nod to each other then put out some statement about how Star Wars needed to be more dark and gritty and 'real'.
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Sep 3, 2021 21:49
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pseudanonymous posted:Yeah the problem is whatever insanely stupid half-rear end thing D&D the Star Wars fans would probably have randomly loved. I can just see hordes of neckbeard manchildren holding plastic flashlights screaming about how awesome the octopus alien sith using 8 lightsabers was or whatever It would be awesome though, and better than what we deserve and what we will get.
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CainsDescendant posted:If that's not what happened then it loving should be Did we get any explanation of the Other's origin story in the show? I feel like there was some hints about why Bran had to come North, instead of raven coming south. I mean it would definitely be a crowning "game of thrones" moment if raven engineered the Other's invasion in the first place. Did the winter end when NK was ganked? I honestly couldn't watch it after the "Long Night" episode. I missed the next one, someone spoiled that Arya killed the night king, and I guess I couldn't deal with the show any more.
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Well we saw the Children of the Forest create an other by stabbing a man in the heart with an Obsidian blade I think, but other than that none of that was explained.
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pseudanonymous posted:Yeah the problem is whatever insanely stupid half-rear end thing D&D the Star Wars fans would probably have randomly loved. I can just see hordes of neckbeard manchildren holding plastic flashlights screaming about how awesome the octopus alien sith using 8 lightsabers was or whatever Kuiperdolin posted:It would be awesome though, and better than what we deserve and what we will get. PittTheElder posted:Well we saw the Children of the Forest create an other by stabbing a man in the heart with an Obsidian blade I think, but other than that none of that was explained.
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Sep 4, 2021 04:34
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A wizard did it
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PittTheElder posted:A wizard did it Right? It's disheartening how often people need to be reminded.
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Sep 4, 2021 05:07
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TERFherder posted:Did we get any explanation of the Other's origin story in the show? I feel like there was some hints about why Bran had to come North, instead of raven coming south. I mean it would definitely be a crowning "game of thrones" moment if raven engineered the Other's invasion in the first place. Bloodraven is literally part of a weirwood tree which probably really limits his mobility. He's stuck here he is, the roots are integrated into his body at this point, I believe.
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Sep 4, 2021 15:20
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Re, Watchmen and good 'ol Jay Jay: The comic is quite clear on what it thinks of the costumed vigilantes:  I don't recall the movie version being nearly as clear, nor do I think it covered some of the other themes as well (though tbf I did only watch it once). Watchmen (comic) is far more critical of its protagonists and does a better job depicting the swathes of humanity than I think Game of Thrones does (either of them), where 'nuanced' people sort of get left behind and the story tends to mostly be a series of betrayals, brutal realpolitik, and justice only through murder.
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Sep 4, 2021 19:01
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Make movies based off of the Galaxy of Fear books, cowards.
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Rereading the first book. It's amazing how close the show's first season followed the first book, aside from some scenes cut for budget reasons.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Re, Watchmen and good 'ol Jay Jay: At the same time, Rorschach's backstory and time with the psychiatrist says a lot and makes him, IMO, the most compelling character besides Dr. Manhattan. I know I was in a very similar headspace as the therapist after we heard his, Rorschach's, story. Just like...what does it all mean, what is it all for.
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We got our first round of set photos released from House of the Dragon, the first spinoff from Game of Thrones that HBO will be producing and releasing which will dramatize "The Dance of the Dragons" and its buildup. https://wikiofthrones.com/33609/graham-mctavish-and-olivia-cooke-spotted-in-full-costume-on-house-of-the-dragon-set/ Kind of intriguing - no clue who Graham McTavish is meant to be playing - there isn't really a clear or obvious answer to that question. Cool armor, though.
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kaworu posted:We got our first round of set photos released from House of the Dragon, the first spinoff from Game of Thrones that HBO will be producing and releasing which will dramatize "The Dance of the Dragons" and its buildup. He's got a white cloak so definitely a Kings Guard
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kaworu posted:We got our first round of set photos released from House of the Dragon, the first spinoff from Game of Thrones that HBO will be producing and releasing which will dramatize "The Dance of the Dragons" and its buildup. quote:It’s time to get on the hype train! CRINGE
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Mad Hamish posted:Bloodraven is literally part of a weirwood tree which probably really limits his mobility. He's stuck here he is, the roots are integrated into his body at this point, I believe. There are other wargs north of the wall he could have made use of other than Bran though. I guess I'm looking for some hint that he couldn't pass through the wall. That the old magic kept him from passing ( like coldhands ).That would justify him starting the war with the Others to destroy the wall. Were the others trying to kill him when they attacked the tree? Or were they going after Bran? Did we ever figure out what was up with coldhands? Was he just the Brandon wight that Raven took over and controlled? Maybe raven can only take over people named "Bran*"? edit: I'm not sure I ever saw HOW Bran got south of the wall. TERFherder fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Sep 7, 2021 |
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Just watched The Netflix Witcher to scratch and itch and... it sucks, right? Besides Henry Cavill being the image of Geralt and Jaskier being fun, the show was a disjointed mess. I remember when it came out, nerds were bombing any review site that was even mildly critical of it, so I assumed that while it probably wasn't great, it couldn't have been as poorly written as it is. I admit I had fun when Geralt got to fight monsters and hang with Jaskier, but I can't believe that someone thought that bouncing back and forth between what felt like eight different pins on a timeline was a remotely good idea.
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Sep 7, 2021 01:21
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I mean it was designed to be a throwback to Xena/Hercules-style monster of the week starring Himbo Supreme Cavill for jerkoff material. Doesn't really seem like there was much to get. Honestly I hope the new series is more lurid in that vein. Really go for the cheap seats with the schlock. No pretensions about saying something deep and meaningful about rich and complex characters. No whorehouses though. There should be a moratorium on those in the franchise.
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mind the walrus posted:I mean it was designed to be a throwback to Xena/Hercules-style monster of the week starring Himbo Supreme Cavill for jerkoff material. That's what I was hoping for. Maybe give us a season of Geralt fighting monsters with some of the over-arching plot stuff sprinkled here and there, but it went way too wild with the time skips.
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Pennsylvanian posted:Just watched The Netflix Witcher to scratch and itch and... it sucks, right? Besides Henry Cavill being the image of Geralt and Jaskier being fun, the show was a disjointed mess. I remember when it came out, nerds were bombing any review site that was even mildly critical of it, so I assumed that while it probably wasn't great, it couldn't have been as poorly written as it is. I admit I had fun when Geralt got to fight monsters and hang with Jaskier, but I can't believe that someone thought that bouncing back and forth between what felt like eight different pins on a timeline was a remotely good idea. There are signs of too many cooks all over the Witchers episodes. The easiest example is Yennifer's character arc, which is totally bungled. There's a theme that is clearly foreshadowed many times but then in places where it should be reinforced, it isn't. I don't know if it was a showrunner not knowing how to control the writer's room or some execs meddling. The bones of a good story are there.
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Pennsylvanian posted:Just watched The Netflix Witcher to scratch and itch and... it sucks, right? Besides Henry Cavill being the image of Geralt and Jaskier being fun, the show was a disjointed mess. I remember when it came out, nerds were bombing any review site that was even mildly critical of it, so I assumed that while it probably wasn't great, it couldn't have been as poorly written as it is. I admit I had fun when Geralt got to fight monsters and hang with Jaskier, but I can't believe that someone thought that bouncing back and forth between what felt like eight different pins on a timeline was a remotely good idea. The anime feature they just released is really well done. The nightmare of the wolf.
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Pennsylvanian posted:That's what I was hoping for. Maybe give us a season of Geralt fighting monsters with some of the over-arching plot stuff sprinkled here and there, but it went way too wild with the time skips. It takes a couple of repeat viewings to figure out the timelines but once you figure it out it's actually one of the most clever elements of the show. Yen's timeline starts first and is about 100 years before Geralt's, and it runs until it it slams into Geralt's timeline so then you have the two of them moving forward together, and Geralt's timeline is like 20-30 years before Ciri's timeline which is the "present day" of the show, and by the end of the first season Yennifer and Geralt's timelines have slammed into Ciri's in the present day and from Season 2 onward they'll all be moving forward together. But yes, the show is supposed to be a hokey modern day Xena: Warrior Princess except they say gently caress a lot in it. The people who got really mad about it were the ones who were wrongly expecting it to be a replacement for Game of Thrones when the source material for both the books and the games is equally loving corny (and knowingly so) or the real groady assholes who were mad that Triss and Fringilla were played by people of colour on the show. So... ya know.
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I didn't have a problem with the timeline in the Witcher. Lightly paraphrasing, in the first episode someone says "The Battle of X was 100 years ago!" In episode two they say "Boy am I sure glad the Battle of X wrapped up last week!" In episode four two adult characters from episode three are named and shown as children.
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Poldarn posted:I didn't have a problem with the timeline in the Witcher. Lightly paraphrasing, in the first episode someone says "The Battle of X was 100 years ago!" In episode two they say "Boy am I sure glad the Battle of X wrapped up last week!" In episode four two adult characters from episode three are named and shown as children. I can't read.
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I found the witcher timelines pretty easy to follow without knowing the source material. But they probably wouldn't have lost much by adding "x years ago" title cards to help the people watching while playing phone games. I guess I knew ahead of time that some of the characters had very long lifespans, so maybe that helped. I did like the non linear storytelling, GoT could arguably benefit from a bit more of that.
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pidan posted:I found the witcher timelines pretty easy to follow without knowing the source material. But they probably wouldn't have lost much by adding "x years ago" title cards to help the people watching while playing phone games. I guess I knew ahead of time that some of the characters had very long lifespans, so maybe that helped. Also Jaskier kind of throws off the perception of time in the show a bit by hanging around Geralt on and off for like 30 years and also always looking the same as him and Yennifer who are effectively biologically immortal while he's just a normal everyday dude and other people around him are clearly show aging as the show goes on. And when he shows up in the present he's not going to look one bit older either, based on the promo shots from Season 2 I've seen.
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Wait, he's called Jaskier in the show? That's some real weeaboo style poo poo lol Dandelion conveys exactly what the original name did, you don't have to pretend like you can't translate that to English lmao
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Pennsylvanian posted:Just watched The Netflix Witcher to scratch and itch and... it sucks, right? Besides Henry Cavill being the image of Geralt and Jaskier being fun, the show was a disjointed mess. I remember when it came out, nerds were bombing any review site that was even mildly critical of it, so I assumed that while it probably wasn't great, it couldn't have been as poorly written as it is. I admit I had fun when Geralt got to fight monsters and hang with Jaskier, but I can't believe that someone thought that bouncing back and forth between what felt like eight different pins on a timeline was a remotely good idea. I suspect that only folks that played the game would have a clue what was going on. But yeah, it was indeed a mess.
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Jaskier the Mighty. The Witcher TV show was fine. Realizing the timeline stuff helps make stuff make a lot more sense and it's pretty confusing before then.
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The earliest audiobooks pronounced it Dan-del-iiyon, which was sadly fixed.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Jaskier the Mighty. Yeah I thought it was pretty good for what it was. I'd played about 2 hours of the Witcher 3 before watching the show and teasing out the timelines was probably my favorite part of it. You get a strong hint in the first episode that things aren't all happening concurrently, then you get more and more as things progress and it's satisfying once everything clicks into place.
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I went into Witcher blind and found the timeline jumping really jarring. I didn't know Witchers don't age, so I went it literally nothing. I spent too much time going "wait when is this?" Like I got it during the engagement party, but I think they should have either made it a reveal or put little date stamps. I was just eeeeh about the show until I rewatched it after playing witcher 3 last year. Then I rather enjoyed it, before I wasn't distracted trying to figure out when stuff way. Also, Jaskier's name should be Buttercup. :P Dandelion is all well in good, but I would have loved that little manslut to be named Buttercup. IMO that is a much more perfect name for him.
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