Gio posted:

there is no way to open schools without daily superspreader events. there is no way to “open safely”.

Pingui posted:

We just have to learn to live with it:

And by "it" I mean the lack of healthcare workers and by "live" I mean die.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

That's it, thank you. There's no sort of pre-made thing you can buy? Dyson or whatever? One of my friends who asked could probably make one of those things, but I know at least one of the others would much rather just buy something and be done with it. But yeah thanks.

fosborb posted:

there is though, if we cared enough.

last to close, first to open. kill community spread in all other areas by strict lock down, and then treat all kids and teachers and parents of kids like front line workers in March 2020. pay extra, parents and teachers stay home or at school. bang pots and pans at them to remind them no brunch (but indoor dining would be closed already)

constant rapid testing like we do for our professional athletes and politicians, robust contact tracing in the easiest environment you have for that (seriously, everyone is strictly scheduled). cohorting, distancing, masks, quarantining, and again, eFMLA at 100% for parents to make it work, substantial hazard pay for teachers to retain and compensate

AceOfFlames posted:

Then what is even the point of vaccination? What is the point of anything? If we are never getting a normal life again, why even stay alive? I don't even miss restaurants or anything, I miss being able to walk the streets without being worried, I miss not feeling like I am the only sane person alive, I miss being able to take a language course to finally integrate to this foreign country I moved to, I miss being able to expand my horizons.

How do you guys handle this?

fosborb posted:

there is though, if we cared enough.

last to close, first to open. kill community spread in all other areas by strict lock down, and then treat all kids and teachers and parents of kids like front line workers in March 2020. pay extra, parents and teachers stay home or at school. bang pots and pans at them to remind them no brunch (but indoor dining would be closed already)

constant rapid testing like we do for our professional athletes and politicians, robust contact tracing in the easiest environment you have for that (seriously, everyone is strictly scheduled). cohorting, distancing, masks, quarantining, and again, eFMLA at 100% for parents to make it work, substantial hazard pay for teachers to retain and compensate

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

At this point in time I really don't give a poo poo if I don't see anyone who isn't my wife or her grandmother ever again. I just don't care. I'm tired of people and I'm tired of staying alive being controversial somehow. I'm going to spend the rest of my life assuming that everyone is a giant dangerous toddler until they prove otherwise.

You really don't get to choose how and when you're caught in the gears of history, there's nothing wrong with accepting that circumstance has hosed you up pretty badly and you've gotta make the best of it.

Testvan posted:

did someone say nate silver

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1435221455319490561

euphronius posted:

don’t we all Nate

don’t we all

fosborb posted:

holy poo poo I'm genuinely surprised that's in USA Today

we've been crowing about how hosed pandemic of the unvaccinated is since July. nice to see others finally go, wait a minute, what happens when the hospitals fill up and uh oh aren't children also unvaccinated????

McNugget Buddy posted:

Rave superspreader guy:

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

That's it, thank you. There's no sort of pre-made thing you can buy? Dyson or whatever? One of my friends who asked could probably make one of those things, but I know at least one of the others would much rather just buy something and be done with it. But yeah thanks.

Teenage Riot posted:

When I used to read USA Today somewhat regularly (they gave them away in the student union please don’t judge too harshly) their gimmick was two conflicting opinion pieces so they could show Both Sides Of The Issue, so I assume this is accompanied by one that calls for all vaccinated people to be shoved into Foo Fighters concerts maskless at gunpoint

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22651046/covid-19-delta-vaccines-social-distancing-masking-lockdowns posted:

America needs to decide how much Covid-19 risk it will tolerate
A realistic Covid-19 endgame requires accepting some risk. The question is how much.
(..)
Is the current death toll — of more than 1,500 a day, or equivalent to more than 500,000 deaths a year — too much? Many people would say, of course, it is. But in the middle of a delta variant surge, Americans may be revealing their preferences as restaurant reservations are now around the pre-pandemic normal — a sign the country is moving on.
(..)

Pingui posted:

Soap Scum posted:

[COVID-19] 😡 mask

Soap Scum posted:

[COVID-19] 😡 mask

Mokelumne Trekka posted:

My spouse feels sick and is gonna get tested today

No reason to think it isnt COVID. America gave up

WampaLord posted:

"Yes, mass death is bad."

"BUT!"

minor detail posted:

How small are the chances of the average vaccinated American contracting Covid? Probably about one in 5,000 per day, and even lower for people who take precautions or live in a highly vaccinated community.

Soap Scum posted:

[COVID-19] 😡 mask

Schnorkles posted:

Multiple Idaho health districts have officially instituted triage this morning

Soap Scum posted:

[COVID-19] 😡 mask