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Nocturtle posted:Fair enough. Last summer there was a lot of discussion about the foolishness of pursuing just mRNA vaccines in the US, using the population as guinea pigs for a relatively novel vaccine technology. The widespread death an disease last fall+winter seemed to kill of those concerns in the broader public, but it's good researchers are still thinking about it. Though if we're going down this path the long-term impacts of COVID are similarly unknown, still going to bet the virus that purposefully screws up immune systems to infect asymptomatically will be worse.
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Golli posted:It's the 50th anniversary celebration of Disneyworld opening. I like a lot of poo poo, I'm not gonna go to see the poo poo i like when death is stalking every social interaction. lol
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the best way to understand things rn is that the FDA is moving at literal lightspeed in terms of the agency itself (and absolutely loving over all sorts of other things in the process, but that's neither here nor there) and by the time we get an EUA for kids in school we probably will have already exposed all of them to the virus.
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Nocturtle posted:Though if we're going down this path the long-term impacts of COVID are similarly unknown, still going to bet the virus that purposefully screws up immune systems to infect asymptomatically will be worse. Bingo Wait till we find out that after 5 years with covid, X has a huge chance of happening, where X is whatever awful health outcome you can imagine Don't catch the novel virus we know barely anything about!
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so last I heard the "models" predicted a delta peak in October? how's that looking? maybe it will go down once the Labor Day/back to school spike happens, but then come the holidays...
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Schnorkles posted:the best way to understand things rn is that the FDA is moving at literal lightspeed in terms of the agency itself (and absolutely loving over all sorts of other things in the process, but that's neither here nor there) and by the time we get an EUA for kids in school we probably will have already exposed all of them to the virus. Everything in the US is too slow to deal with climate change much less pandemic
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did you guys in the booster crew use fake data for everything? or just fake names
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Schnorkles posted:the agencies don't move on pandemic timetables, which is why it was always foolish to assume CDC would be prepared for this. i didn't assume anything but i'm blaming the gently caress out the CDC anyway because they hosed up to a level we didn't realize was possible telling people they could drop the masks killed literally hundreds of thousands of people
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WampaLord posted:Bingo i'm honestly waiting to hoot and holler at the studies that show ~x% chance of increased terrible cancer if you ingested horse quantities of ivermectin
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:so last I heard the "models" predicted a delta peak in October? how's that looking? maybe it will go down once the Labor Day/back to school spike happens, but then come the holidays... already past the peak!! https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1435249759766212610?s=19
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There was an old (1930s?) book called Back to Eden about natural diets curing all ills that got popular again with hippies in the sixties and seventies and it hosed up so many boomer brains That sounds exactly like him. He was a big, tough hippie construction worker who could tolerate enormous amounts of pain. He got melanoma from a life of working on rooftops and tried to cure it by seeing an array of hippie chiropractors, homeopaths, and naturopaths. When he was finally in so much pain that he went to a real doctor, all they could do was tell him he was dead.
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actionjackson posted:did you guys in the booster crew use fake data for everything? or just fake names i used my real name but said it was my first shot there's no tracking whatsoever, at least if you're not in CA or one of the states that somewhat has their poo poo together
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Stevie Lee posted:already past the peak!! Trevor Bedford is wildly good at his job and you should probably trust what he says.
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WampaLord posted:Don't catch the novel virus we know barely anything about! ok, i won't
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Schnorkles posted:i'm honestly waiting to hoot and holler at the studies that show ~x% chance of increased terrible cancer if you ingested horse quantities of ivermectin As an engineer the fact that we're self-repairing but basically not modular is a nightmare. I'd rather be a robot that wears out but which can just swap in a new part.
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Lastgirl posted:ok, i won't 
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i think its unlikely anyone will escape COVID at this point.
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actionjackson posted:okay here's what I'm concerned about your work somehow finding out and then questioning you, "wait why did you already get a booster??" is the easiest thing to spin with a response like "look I love this job so much I wanted to do everything possible to keep working and keep everyone here safe"
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Schnorkles posted:there's a reason vaccines have a formal Phase IV in most cases. Sure it's good practice but that doesn't mean that it's happened. Was there a vaccine that was recalled bc of findings from phase IV?
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Schnorkles posted:i think its unlikely anyone will escape COVID at this point.
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Schnorkles posted:i think its unlikely anyone will escape COVID at this point. I think a lot of WFH shut ins should be fine. There's probably a solid 1% of Americans who gig economy everything and have zero actual contacts.
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WampaLord posted:i used my real name but said it was my first shot i canceled this one and am going to start over and do the first shot thing did you give your real address and phone? can you just walk into cvs or walgreens? or do you have to do it online
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actionjackson posted:okay here's what I'm concerned about Why would your work even care? You can just tell them you already got your 3rd shot elsewhere and they'll be like 'cool' and click to remove the health maintenance topic for it
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Chuds are passing this clip around and screaming "SAVE THE CHILDREN FROM THIS MONSTER" because Fauci vaguely alludes to the fact that mandating vaccines for schoolchildren is possible, without even presenting a timetable for doing so: https://twitter.com/theskimm/status/1437204381489790977
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Schnorkles posted:Trevor Bedford is wildly good at his job and you should probably trust what he says. https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1435267631477497856 uh oh! I'm wondering whether our plateau is going to be even higher this time around. "Endemic" COVID in the US sure looks a lot like death stalking every street corner.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There was an old (1930s?) book called Back to Eden about natural diets curing all ills that got popular again with hippies in the sixties and seventies and it hosed up so many boomer brains probably killed steve jobs too lol (good riddance)
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nikosoft posted:Why would your work even care? You can just tell them you already got your 3rd shot elsewhere and they'll be like 'cool' and click to remove the health maintenance topic for it because it would imply I lied about my health background
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Stevie Lee posted:already past the peak!! Didn't school just start for people up north?
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mystes posted:The Chinese vaccine is not great against variants. The mRNA vaccines are good because they target a part of the virus that are less likely to mutate, and they have proven themselves to be plenty safe, so how about not spreading fear about mRNA vaccines? Good thing I'm not doing that! Half my posts itt are whining about how I'm super desperate to get my kids just those mRNA vaccines ASAP, trying and failing to get them into the clinical trials etc. Still doesn't mean you can't call a spade a spade and acknowledge the long-term impacts of mRNA vaccination aren't really known because how could they possibly be?
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actionjackson posted:because it would imply I lied about my health background Just say you asked and they gave it to you and you were confused
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If you're determined to get a booster shot now you should probably use your real name but refuse to give any other information. That way you'll have a separate vaccine card but it will at least have your real name which may become an issue on the off chance the the US actually authorizes booster shots, in which case you might need to be able to show it to your employer.
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 This is so loving ghoulish oh my god Also holy poo poo no one wearing masks at all. loving interviewing kids that can't be vaccinated, with all masks off, on indoor settings. My loving god gently caress all this
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[extremely guy who wouldn't shut up about peak oil fifteen years ago voice] Peak COVID!
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actionjackson posted:because it would imply I lied about my health background You don't have to tell them why! Just say I thought that everyone was supposed to get boosters
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Salt Fish posted:Don't kill children don't run them over
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The "madjackal fallacy" aka believing anyone in the general public would ever read the dead gay forum and take it seriously enough to question vaccines even though we also say take the vaccines
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Floor is lava posted:Didn't school just start for people up north? https://twitter.com/WPXI/status/1437241162058850307
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Floor is lava posted:Didn't school just start for people up north? NYC today iirc Minneapolis schools last week wednesday.
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Schnorkles posted:i think its unlikely anyone will escape COVID at this point. i'm not going to stop wearin kf94s everywhere and will actively avoid places that tut-tut or disallow mask wearing. i think that could keep me safe for at least a few years
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