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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It was unexpected but when it happened I was like “ohhh water planet always raining I guess they were Scottish” I mean I was confused by that because I always thought the Atreides and Caladan were implied to be Greek and a Mediterranean world.
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House Atreides literally means House of Atreus, whose most famous member is probably King Agamemnon.
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Oct 23, 2021 15:48
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Can someone explain the slow knife technique against shields? I always pictured it being slower movements to bypass the shield, but the movie made it more like pressing against the shield until things broke through.
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Oct 23, 2021 15:51
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Makes sense if the shield stops the momentum of your blade then all you have to do is 1: slash someone any way you want 2: once the shield stops your blade, just press it into your opponent
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Oct 23, 2021 15:54
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I haven't read the book in around 30 years (since I was a teen) but I remember it being pretty drat good. I turned this off after 25 minutes because quite frankly it was boring my wife to tears and not doing anything at all for me. And we both like contemplative, visually impressive movies. Something about this just didn't have any life to it. I'm going to give it another chance but there's a vital spirit missing here and I can't put my finger on what it is.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:01
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I haven't read the book in around 30 years (since I was a teen) but I remember it being pretty drat good. I turned this off after 25 minutes because quite frankly it was boring my wife to tears and not doing anything at all for me. And we both like contemplative, visually impressive movies. Something about this just didn't have any life to it. I'm going to give it another chance but there's a vital spirit missing here and I can't put my finger on what it is. The first half hour is pretty boring frankly.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:09
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Also that sandworms seem to move by vibrating the sand so it attains fluid dynamics, that's a cool touch. this was extremely cool, the way the sand turns to effectively water in their presence was visually spectacular and also very on-point thematically
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Oct 23, 2021 16:14
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Liked the movie, but couldn’t help but imagine how Roger Deakins might have shot it.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:20
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eke out posted:this was extremely cool, the way the sand turns to effectively water in their presence was visually spectacular and also very on-point thematically Apparently the whole interview is also published on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-mLVVJkH7I The interview is made shortly after the book was published, before it became a cult hit. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 16:25
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Steve Yun posted:Okay so it’s nagging at me that Villeneuve dressed the Atreides hardware as modern American military imagery. Even the headsets that the passengers wear in the ornithopter look like stuff from 20th century America Did you miss the first three minutes? That left very little to the imagination. Desert tribe mounting a strike on a vastly more powerful oppressor strip-mining their lands, ending with the narrator wondering who their next oppressors will be. That’s not subtle.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:32
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Collapsing Farts posted:Did it make money? Then yeah it's getting a sequel i have hopefully good news. it just opened here in china this weekend, and i went to see it today in imax and it was the most crowded ive seen the theater since 2019 and literally every movie that earned any money this year has done well in china. it’s the biggest movie market this year
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Oct 23, 2021 16:38
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Lawman 0 posted:The first half hour is pretty boring frankly. That is great news! I appreciate your insight.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:43
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Spergin Morlock posted:Don't.... read the prequel books? lol seriously though let's not talk about the kevin j anderson books as if they're strictly canon because they're really not. they contradict major themes in the originals so severely it's better to think of them as a different continuity.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:47
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Isn't there a fan fiction 7th book that is significantly better than Brian's drivel?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Isn't there a fan fiction 7th book that is significantly better than Brian's drivel?
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Oct 23, 2021 17:02
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Collapsing Farts posted:They seemed to have guns and tools capable of penetrating personal shields like those burrowing needle things or the big bombs that slowed down before they hit the shield but then they go and only use swords in actual fights? My friend told me that the in universe reason was that shooting lasers at a shield would cause nuclear explosions or something, but I think he was just loving with me
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Oct 23, 2021 17:02
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:A complete lack of book is better than the books that don't exist. no but you see they're based on frank herbert's notes! that only his son has ever seen! no you can't read them! they definitely exist and we definitely followed what they say exactly!! stop asking me about this!!!!
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Oct 23, 2021 17:03
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Shifter posted:Did you miss the first three minutes? That left very little to the imagination. Desert tribe mounting a strike on a vastly more powerful oppressor strip-mining their lands, ending with the narrator wondering who their next oppressors will be. That’s not subtle. And then they showed up and were cool to the native population.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:05
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:My friend told me that the in universe reason was that shooting lasers at a shield would cause nuclear explosions or something, but I think he was just loving with me
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Oct 23, 2021 17:06
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I’m 1hr 10min into watching Dune 1984 for the first time and anyone who thinks it’s good much less better than Dune 2021 is high on spice. This movie is trash.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:09
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This worked for me right from the beginning. Tone, atmosphere, pacing. It felt grand and stark and full of little moments that gave everything texture. None of the shots seemed to linger, in fact I felt that a lot of amazing visuals came and went in just enough time to leave an impression. Having just finished the movie, there are a few things in particular that I find myself thinking about : - Everything about Javier Bardem's first scene, including the not-so-subtle little glances to his left - Lasers shown as tight beams illuminating swirls of dust rather than the traditional big ol' plasma blasts - There's a two-second shot of a panel in a dragonfly cockpit where we see a pair of VR-like lenses displaying something. The camera doesn't get close enough for us to see clearly, but it looks pretty colorful, elaborate, and there might even be UI elements in there. Tiny details like that (and the little candle with an intricate design on its side they burned at the ring-seal ceremony) do so much to sell the setting.
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Collapsing Farts posted:They seemed to have guns and tools capable of penetrating personal shields like those burrowing needle things or the big bombs that slowed down before they hit the shield but then they go and only use swords in actual fights? The real reason for this small-scale warfare is that transport costs are astronomically expensive. You saw in the movie that just sending a small delegation from the Emperor's palace to Caladan cost a fortune. The Spacing Guild has an absolute stranglehold on space transport, and they set the prices based on their own priorities. Insterstellar war is bad for business. That's why the Harkonnen assault on Arrakeen was so unexpected. A single battle like that would bankrupt most of the great houses. The Baron mortgaged 80 years of spice wealth to accomplish this and still needed a push from the Emperor to make it work. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 17:09
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bawfuls posted:Not loving with you that is the reason in the book Lol
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Josh Lyman posted:I’m 1hr 10min into watching Dune 1984 for the first time and anyone who thinks it’s good much less better than Dune 2021 is high on spice. This movie is trash. Honestly it looks really cool, but if it wasn't directed by David Lynch it would have no fanboy cachet and would be remembered the same way as like Flash Gordon or Barbarella
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Oct 23, 2021 17:11
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Josh Lyman posted:I’m 1hr 10min into watching Dune 1984 for the first time and anyone who thinks it’s good much less better than Dune 2021 is high on spice. This movie is trash. I liked the harkonnen scenes more than what we got in 2021 but thats basically it
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Failed Imagineer posted:Honestly it looks really cool, but if it wasn't directed by David Lynch it would have no fanboy cachet and would be remembered the same way as like Flash Gordon or Barbarella It's this lol
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:seriously though let's not talk about the kevin j anderson books as if they're strictly canon because they're really not. they contradict major themes in the originals so severely it's better to think of them as a different continuity. they were written at least in part based on Frank's notes but I do take your point
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Isn't there a fan fiction 7th book that is significantly better than Brian's drivel? Frank Herbert, in Chapterhouse Dune posted:"Democracy is susceptible to being led astray by having scapegoats paraded in front of the electorate. Get the rich, the greedy, the criminals, the stupid leader and so on ad nauseam." Dr. Fishopolis posted:no but you see they're based on frank herbert's notes! that only his son has ever seen! no you can't read them! they definitely exist and we definitely followed what they say exactly!! stop asking me about this!!!! I have an entire screed about the supposed notes posted in the GBS thread... I'm not obsessed, I swear! Josh Lyman posted:I’m 1hr 10min into watching Dune 1984 for the first time and anyone who thinks it’s good much less better than Dune 2021 is high on spice. This movie is trash.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:My friend told me that the in universe reason was that shooting lasers at a shield would cause nuclear explosions or something, but I think he was just loving with me not only would that happen, but in the book duncan idaho iirc deliberately leaves a shield running once the harkonnens bust out the lasguns in the battle for arakeen and it causes a huge boom that takes out a bunch of harkonnens
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Spergin Morlock posted:they were written at least in part based on Frank's notes but I do take your point nobody has ever seen "frank's notes" except brian herbert. if they exist, he could publish them like chris tolkein did with his dad's work. he won't because either they don't exist or he completely ignored them.
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Spergin Morlock posted:they were written at least in part based on Frank's notes but I do take your point BlankSystemDaemon posted:The images, which are in the article where he calls people who doubt him "Talifan", of a couple of floppy disks prove absolutely nothing - it's like a kid handing in their "homework" after it's accidentally been washed.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:If you're not watching the Alternative Edition Redux, your opinion needs to be shed upon the sands. There are a lot of fan cuts of Lynch's Dune but nothing can fix the fact that the budget ran out halfway through principal photography.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:22
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Arglebargle III posted:There are a lot of fan cuts of Lynch's Dune but nothing can fix the fact that the budget ran out halfway through principal photography. It also tries to fix some of those issues caused by running out of money, though obviously it doesn't have much to work with.
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Josh Lyman posted:I’m 1hr 10min into watching Dune 1984 for the first time and anyone who thinks it’s good much less better than Dune 2021 is high on spice. This movie is trash. I can understand liking the movie. It has some interesting aesthetics here and there, and if you're a fan of the novels you might appreciate seeing at least some of it onscreen. To say it's a great movie, call it better than the new one, and act like that's an obvious opinion to have is really funny, though. It's like walking into a party with your pants around your ankles and confidently boasting that you're in the sex offender registry.
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There will definitely be a part 2. Box office has been decent for the current times, but the big thing is I am positive a ton of people are going to watch this on HBO Max. By the time part 2 can be filmed and released things should be back to normal and they probably will make it theater exclusive which means all those HBO Max viewers will go to the theater the second time around which puts it in pre-covid blockbuster territory.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:It's like walking into a party with your pants around your ankles and confidently boasting that you're in the sex offender registry. ?
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D-Pad posted:There will definitely be a part 2. Box office has been decent for the current times, but the big thing is I am positive a ton of people are going to watch this on HBO Max. By the time part 2 can be filmed and released things should be back to normal and they probably will make it theater exclusive which means all those HBO Max viewers will go to the theater the second time around which puts it in pre-covid blockbuster territory. just an anecdote here, but i saw approximately 6x the people in the theater to see dune today than i did seeing any of the star wars sequels here in china. and star wars was heavily advertised here, dune wasnt. seems like good news to me
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The whole "Will Dune II get made???????" is C-level executive bullshit from the studio forced upon the actors, directors and everyone else working on the movie, to try and generate more buzz. There's no loving way Denis Villeneuve signed on to do half a movie based on a book that he's been wanting to make a movie out of, ever since he was a kid.
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I'm surprised they didn't do what LOTR did and film two movies at once, then release them a year apart. This film is so heavily "part 1" in every way, which if nothing else takes a lot of confidence
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The whole "Will Dune II get made???????" is C-level executive bullshit from the studio forced upon the actors, directors and everyone else working on the movie, to try and generate more buzz. 100% this. I'm sure a lot of the B-roll has already been shot for the sequel
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