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Pitch Meeting does CinemaSins better than the original if you like that sort of shot-fire critique. It does make the same joke every episode but it's self aware.
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Nov 4, 2021 02:18
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i mean, all that needs to be said about cinema sins is in this video which hasn't been posted to this page yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEAsGoP-5I
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Nov 4, 2021 02:33
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pentyne posted:This video kind of explains all the problem with Cinemasins, at least as of 2 years ago. I doubt they've changed. Everyone has failed to read posts on here lmao. Rockit fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Nov 4, 2021 |
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Nov 4, 2021 03:21
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pentyne posted:This video kind of explains all the problem with Cinemasins, at least as of 2 years ago. I doubt they've changed. Yes, that's the bobvids video that everyone's been talking about since we started flogging CinemaSins for being lazy but less evil than Nostalgia Critic in how much damage they've done to people's lives.
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Nov 4, 2021 03:36
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Down with Cinema Sins Up with Sinema Cins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0rLslL564
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Nov 4, 2021 05:02
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The best thing CS did was inspire CinemaWins which is only occasionally fun.
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Nov 4, 2021 05:30
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Nuns with Guns posted:I was going to find some way to work the complete list of shipping names Bulbapedia used to compile on the wiki into a joke, but now I can't find the list so please call your friend's brother a coward and a fiend because now I'll never be able to double check what the relationship between Gary and his Left Hand was called. I would but he's a professor at Oxford now or something like that so he probably won't listen to me.
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Nov 4, 2021 06:07
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Gwen posted:The best thing CS did was inspire CinemaWins which is only occasionally fun. A channel that makes it their mission to be relentlessly positive and always try to find things to enjoy in the films they watch is far more preferable and worthy of respect than a couple of smug, tedious tossers that resort to fabrication to try to prove some imaginary point and default to some half-assed, half-understood excuse of "its' satire" like a pair of children when challenged.
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Nov 4, 2021 06:52
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edogawa rando posted:A channel that makes it their mission to be relentlessly positive and always try to find things to enjoy in the films they watch is far more preferable and worthy of respect than a couple of smug, tedious tossers that resort to fabrication to try to prove some imaginary point and default to some half-assed, half-understood excuse of "its' satire" like a pair of children when challenged. 
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Nov 4, 2021 09:26
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Zedd posted:Pitch Meeting does CinemaSins better than the original if you like that sort of shot-fire critique. It does make the same joke every episode but it's self aware. His Wonder Woman 1984 is, by far, the best one. "She could have turned into a killer whale, but that would have made for a less interesting scene." "Oh I wholeheartedly disagree!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Tm0SxIp6w
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Nov 4, 2021 14:04
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That reminds me of a good video I saw about Cinemasins https://youtu.be/ELEAsGoP-5I
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Nov 4, 2021 14:28
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cinemasins but they're chocolate covered raisins you get at the movie theatre concessions counter
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Nov 4, 2021 14:42
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I had no idea people took cinema sins as actual critique. I thought it was just a comedy video series where the “joke” is that they nitpick everything to death.
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Nov 4, 2021 16:12
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As far back as the early Nostalgia Critic days there would be people who would form opinions on movies based on what a reviewer said about it and why it sucks, without seeing it themselves. But usually those people reviewed older movies that had a bit of a “I liked that as a kid?” type deal, and eventually things moved to recent releases, and there’s a group of people who use those reviews as a substitute for seeing the movie themselves.
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Nov 4, 2021 16:36
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bobjr posted:As far back as the early Nostalgia Critic days there would be people who would form opinions on movies based on what a reviewer said about it and why it sucks, without seeing it themselves. But usually those people reviewed older movies that had a bit of a “I liked that as a kid?” type deal, and eventually things moved to recent releases, and there’s a group of people who use those reviews as a substitute for seeing the movie themselves. It was also a problem you'd see crop up a lot in the early days of Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation reviews, which was especially ironic given he had a pretty clear "Form your own goddamned opinion on this stuff" message in his early videos. It's part of a larger problem in the way mass market audiences tend to view critics and criticism - That there is a singular "correct" opinion on media and thus if a critic they like dislikes something they have not seen, that thing must be bad, whereas if that same critic dislikes something they have already seen and liked, that critic must be incorrect or uninformed. Looking back, the audience reaction to Zero Punctuation specifically is kind of indicative of both the state of video game criticism at the time (Yahtzee pretty quickly gained a reputation as being "That critic who hates every video game" as his schtick, mostly for the fact that he was one of the few reviewers at the time who wasn't afraid to say he didn't like a triple A title.) and the skewed view of criticism the gaming community would go on to develop...
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Nov 4, 2021 16:45
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I used to watch zero punctuation and I recall psychonauts was the only game at the time he gave a positive review. People actually got mad at him for that
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Nov 4, 2021 16:53
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It's time to have a national conversation about criticism
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Nov 4, 2021 17:27
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Police_monitoring posted:It's time to have a national conversation about criticism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Fvsgv0bYw
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Nov 4, 2021 17:48
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KingKalamari posted:It was also a problem you'd see crop up a lot in the early days of Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation reviews, which was especially ironic given he had a pretty clear "Form your own goddamned opinion on this stuff" message in his early videos. It's part of a larger problem in the way mass market audiences tend to view critics and criticism - That there is a singular "correct" opinion on media and thus if a critic they like dislikes something they have not seen, that thing must be bad, whereas if that same critic dislikes something they have already seen and liked, that critic must be incorrect or uninformed. I remember Yahtzee was gonna post it on Something Awful but Lowtax refused to pay him claiming the site made no money.
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Nov 4, 2021 18:50
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Yeah, until quite recently pop culture media criticism wasn't really a thing. The "established arts" had well-read critics that just refused to engage with ~puerile media~ unless they could trash the gently caress out of it, and stuff like videogames and comic books had a lot of insecure nerds with little to no analysis skills trying to defend their favorite things and justify their purchases. I think Yahtzee and all that generation of angry reviewers were people testing the waters on maybe not being full-on fanboys and acknowledging flaws in stuff they might've even liked.
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Nov 4, 2021 19:33
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I really wouldn't say yahtzee of all people was breaking boundaries into daring to criticize AAA games considering how many of his videos were dunking on shovelware, niche games at the time like Demon's Souls, or riding goofy gaming zeitgeist trends like "MP-focused games are scams".
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Nov 4, 2021 20:40
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I used to watch zero punctuation and I recall psychonauts was the only game at the time he gave a positive review. People actually got mad at him for that He was pretty over the moon for Portal, too. I used to rely on his rare positive reviews to tell me about interesting games like Bastion, Papers Please, Spec Ops: The Line, Undertale and Return of the Obra Dinn, all of which I bought and played because of him. Thankfully, I didn't do the same with Bioshock: Infinite.
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Nov 4, 2021 21:05
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His "retro" review of Painkiller was what made me realise that I was just watching him for cleverly phrased insults. I also liked the game and without the vitriol it just wasn't interesting to hear him talk about it.
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Nov 4, 2021 21:17
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I liked his CoD reviews because he hates their politics as much as I do and it's cathartic. Also yes, the insults.
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Nov 4, 2021 21:22
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I don't usually find content worth posting in here, so have a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbJK4T-SBRA
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Nov 4, 2021 21:24
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I was really sad to learn that she's a massive TERF. I was enjoying her stuff until then.
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Nov 4, 2021 21:29
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Arquinsiel posted:I was really sad to learn that she's a massive TERF. I was enjoying her stuff until then. Wait who is terf?
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Nov 4, 2021 22:19
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The armor lady
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Nov 4, 2021 22:21
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Arquinsiel posted:I was really sad to learn that she's a massive TERF. I was enjoying her stuff until then. Well gently caress, and I googled her and searched this thread before I posted that video too just to be safe. Ah hell. I didn't search thoroughly enough for it!
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Nov 4, 2021 22:25
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i would've known not to watch or post that video, because of the loving thumbnail
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Nov 4, 2021 22:26
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She kept it pretty quiet since having a big public falling out with Lindsay Ellis over it, which I somehow totally didn't notice. She's deleted all the blogs etc, so at least she realised that she wasn't winning herself fans with it.
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Nov 4, 2021 22:27
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I hate the feeling when you've enjoyed a creative YouTuber for a while and then you find out some horrible poo poo about them and have to force your hand over to that unsubscribe button. Like ripping off a band-aid. From what I can remember, the accounts I've dropped were: ProJared, gamer (gross sending underage girls his dick pics stuff) Pogo, musician (turns out he's an alt-right MAGA chud) Barnaby Dixon, puppeteer (he platformed a terf in an interview, then tried to avoid saying anything about it until people realized he just seems to agree with those views) Gus Johnson, sketch comedian (turns out he treated his girlfriend like poo poo when she had horrible medical issues) Erick Landon, gamer (called the current lgbt+ community a plague and then gave a non-apology) EDIT: Also, I never really enjoyed the original Game Grumps, but after finding out how racist JonTron was, I've had to constantly curate my YT recommendations to avoid him. How did that loving FlexTape video blow up so much AFTER everyone knew he was a terrible racist? More recently it was revealed that he's an antivaxxer, too. And people were shocked? JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Nov 4, 2021 |
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Nov 4, 2021 22:31
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Antigravitas posted:I liked his CoD reviews because he hates their politics as much as I do and it's cathartic. In all my years I've never forgotten his political interpretation of Super Mario https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqRK_4H63rw&t=101s
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Nov 4, 2021 22:34
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JazzFlight posted:How did that loving FlexTape video blow up so much AFTER everyone knew he was a terrible racist? Because people who are outed as sexpests or racists or whatever do not actually get "cancelled" like they cry about. They just swap one audience for another. Plenty of people who think JonTron is "based" for being a walking /pol/ caricature. I'd also imagine that there are a lot of people who just don't really pay that much attention to youtube drama, saw a JonTron video pop up in their feed, and thought it was funny without any context of his politics.
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Nov 4, 2021 22:41
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It's hard finding channels nowadays that are sane. Was watching this very eager to learn but kind of naive dude react to various things for a while and then they went antivaxxer out of nowhere. Can't even count on being open minded people wrt culture and LGBT rights any more as a baseline gauge.
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Nov 4, 2021 22:53
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I am not very online but have been watching more youtube than usual lately and finally ended up on some projared videos that were entertaining to watch while I'm on my stationary bike. I decided to google him for more info and  . Is there anyone who has yet to be revealed to be a creepy weirdo that is in a similar lane with content on old JRPGs?
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Nov 4, 2021 23:05
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meh, i was watching the armor lady videos yesterday because they were fun, oh well, shouldve known something was up she is into medieval poo poo and is british Zedd posted:It's hard finding channels nowadays that are sane. Was watching this very eager to learn but kind of naive dude react to various things for a while and then they went antivaxxer out of nowhere. Can't even count on being open minded people wrt culture and LGBT rights any more as a baseline gauge. I wouldn't worry much about curating your media consumption because at the end of the day you only see like 0.1% of someone's life through what they produce, you just drop stuff when you notice or discover someone is poo poo enough that you don't wanna watch their stuff anymore. Life's less stressful when you give people the benefit of the doubt instead of being terrified of the Twitter panopticon catching you watching problematic content.
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Nov 4, 2021 23:09
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I've kind of come to accept that every time I watch a Youtube video by a person I'm not familiar with I'm going to have a creeping sense of low key dread in the background: I'm generally really slow to hit the subscribe button for fear a creator's going to turn out to be a garbage-person. Like, I've been watching a bunch of unsolved/creepy mystery videos lately from a few creators, and I'm just dreading the idea that they're going to turn out to be anti-vaxxers or something.
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Nov 4, 2021 23:11
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I pretty much google their user name and the word politics or Trump and scroll through their list of other videos to scope out if they’re secret MAGA chuds before I hit subscribe.
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Nov 4, 2021 23:14
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Yeah even people I like I feel a lil u easy with like mandalore for that sseth idiot showing up all the time, I remember him from the league days when he just made loads of real fuckin racist lovely meme videos people loved
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