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Oh, Wheel Takes take: I'm phone posting, else I'd actually gather quotes from when we talked about this last: Ali starts at "Mat, you loving dumbass." Then, "Mat, the dumbass, is actually right when he says he's the only sane one left." Then, "Oh great, now Mat's being rewarded for his stupid choices." But then in TSR, it goes from "Goddamnit Mat, you get three questions, three. (It's kind of a bit that I hate Mat at this point but I'm sticking with it.)" to, by the end, "Oh. Oh no. I am Mat. Mat is me." Like, figuring out details for the Battle of Emond's Field, wanting to be sure she understood it clearly and from all sides: Gus: "Is it because you 'find battles interesting'? Because you're Mat?" Ali: "goddamn it." And, as Rand shows his dragons alongside Couladin, Mat is just repeatedly making "we should get outta here" gestures, pointing at Rand's empty saddle, etc. Ali: "This is me. Something sketch going on? Just leave, get out of there. Always know your exits."
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:If you're mad about the potential veil issues you should be mad at the cadin'sor colors being wrong for the time too they wore lighter colors to blend into the snow and rock!
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Go outside and interact with people? Nice try officerHieronymous Alloy posted:they wore lighter colors to blend into the snow and rock! They didn't start doing this until after they returned to the wetlands following Rand! ONE YEAR LATER fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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Weren't they hunting Laman for like 2 years? Maybe they thought of it then, too. Or maybe it's a different tune of the Wheel and showing your superwarriors who can disappear into the terrain in desert colors in the snow would make the look dumb.
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Or it's the middle of a heated battle and it got yanked away at a dramatic moment. Not really something worth a million words.
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Gwaihir posted:Or it's the middle of a heated battle and it got yanked away at a dramatic moment. Not really something worth a million words. That's what I figured it was. It didn't come up during the books but at least one persons veil had to have fallen off at some point during a battle and it's not like you can stop right then. Maybe it'll be someone realizing he's fighting a woman, and she's protecting the baby she just gave birth to.
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There has never been a movie, show, book, or other story with a dramatic unveiling of someone’s face in battle that dramatically changes what a participant thinks, though.
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Democratic Pirate posted:There has never been a movie, show, book, or other story with a dramatic unveiling of someone’s face in battle that dramatically changes what a participant thinks, though. Of course not, that would be just insane! Who would do such a thing?
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I think that it's understandable to come up with a reason to show an actor's face when they are portraying an important character in an important scene.
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Bongo Bill posted:I think that it's understandable to come up with a reason to show an actor's face when they are portraying an important character in an important scene. cf. Marvel constantly finding excuses for Iron Man/Spidey/Cap to lose the mask
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Counterpoint Darth Vader is one of the biggest movie characters of all time and wore a helmet 99% of the time actors these days are just divas 
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i guess i just don't assume one character in a flashback means they've completely abandoned the idea -- basically all major aiel characters will be unveiled like 95% of the time just following the books as-written, so it seems pretty easy to include the cultural practice without interfering most of the time also veils will make switching in stunt doubles even easier when it is convenient, like masks do in superhero shows eke out fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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This is adult film actor erasure, and I will not stand for it.
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idk veiling to kill is a nicely dramatic thing to have them do on screen. or a source of physical comedy if there's a situation where they are confused and have to keep veiling and unveiling, with extra loud foley Brolander fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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Brolander posted:idk veiling to kill is a nicely dramatic thing to have them do on screen. Narratively, having a visual signifier that poo poo is about to go down is extremely valuable. Just imagine a scene where you know everyone is nervous because the Aiel keep putting their hands to their veils, or there's a sound and they all veil in unison, or there's an argument and one of them stares in fury before starting to veil. It's a great way to show "I'm about to kill" without having to say it, and I think it would be foolish to throw that away. I even think they can keep to that 30% rule in most cases, because for all their violence the Aiel on screen spent most of their time talking.
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Guys I'm sure the Aiel veil will be a thing This is probably this poor girls first onscreen role and yall want her to cover her face because muh canon 
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i think it's more that they are putting a spear inside of another person's body in the frame that is extra jarring. it's like we are all aiel now and are offended
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Hexel posted:Guys I'm sure the Aiel veil will be a thing Look at this guy who doesn't even care about ji'e'toh. Shameful.
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Yo I was at the bookstore and I see that they're re-printed the Big Book of Bad Art.
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Mad Hamish posted:Yo I was at the bookstore and I see that they're re-printed the Big Book of Bad Art. lol
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Mad Hamish posted:Yo I was at the bookstore and I see that they're re-printed the Big Book of Bad Art. lmao incredible
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Mad Hamish posted:Yo I was at the bookstore and I see that they're re-printed the Big Book of Bad Art. Awesome! I have a collection of the Tor paperbacks, but those are my only Wheel of Time books. I should look at getting the BBoBA and Glossary for my shelf.
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Pleads posted:Counterpoint Darth Vader is one of the biggest movie characters of all time and wore a helmet 99% of the time actors these days are just divas Counterpoint: The darth vader actor under the helmet made less than the guy doing voiceover.
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Jaxyon posted:Counterpoint: The darth vader actor under the helmet made less than the guy doing voiceover. And only Star Wars nerds can name/recognize him.
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Killer robot posted:And only Star Wars nerds can name/recognize him. Yeah like, the veils were 100% going to get changed. Nobody is doing a non-lead part in a goofy genre fantasy series and not having their face be shown to get future work.
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Jaxyon posted:Counterpoint: The darth vader actor under the helmet made less than the guy doing voiceover. But he didn't compromise the integrity of the fanciful space opera
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Pleads posted:But he didn't compromise the integrity of the fanciful space opera this angle isn't working for you
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I included coolbutt because I am 100% sincere in my beliefs
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah like, the veils were 100% going to get changed. I mean somebody would surely do it but it was probably much more of a hassle than it’s worth. Which is going to be most of the big changes cause the books are very detailed and it would cost Bezos like 1% of his wealth to fully fund something crazy like that.
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you're the spitting image of a non-veiled aiel!
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Jaxyon posted:Counterpoint: The darth vader actor under the helmet made less than the guy doing voiceover. Karl Urban gave a great performance as Judge Dredd without taking the helmet off for the entire movie But really its probably the stunt people doing the fighting, not the actors. Seems like it would be easier to have them veiled up. And then you have the fun of someone putting the veil on or off depending on how nervous they are. It would be like a less tense version of Frank Booth putting on the gas mask and screaming, don't you loving look at me
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I’m really appreciating Gus’ commitment to doing voices on wheel takes. The try hard pouty sexy baby voice for Selene is just perfect.
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Goofballs posted:Karl Urban gave a great performance as Judge Dredd without taking the helmet off for the entire movie See also: all the various attempts at live-action renditions of The Tick, which never quite work
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How dare you, the Amazon Tick show was really good.
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Data Graham posted:See also: all the various attempts at live-action renditions of The Tick, which never quite work Never watched any of that but a quick google gives me a guy in a blue full body muscle suit. I feel like they weren't trying to hit this is real person in the circumstances there were born into. Dredd is a fascist applying the 'law' to an underclass he considers beneath contempt and both the judges and the underclass came about due to a collapse of the environment and then a failure of the economy to integrate regular people. His costume makes sense.
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Yeah what I was getting at was that the comic original Tick has a super cartoony near-full-face mask with giant eyes that morph to convey expression, and live action can’t do a lot with that. Both the Serafinowicz and Warburton Ticks tried to leverage the actors’ faces as much as possible by showing lots of skin, but it was inevitably a pretty poor facsimile. Not sure if we’re making the same point even, I just mean emoting under a mask is hard, and so is trying to live up to a non-live-action standard, even when you have rubber-face actors who are headline names.
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Should just do some Iron Man cgi where when the veil is up they cut to the actor talking to the camera in a heads up display.
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