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Considering the range of body types on AEW guys this claim is always so weird. AEW is just fine with the hugely jacked guys, providing the hugely jacked guys can wrestle well and aren't jerks.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 08:23 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 17:35 |
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It’s weird anti AEW people think fans of it all like everything on the show. I look at my phone during the goofy stuff I dislike, but my eyes are glued to the screen when Danielson is on, or the world title or a women’s match, their all or nothing attitude is so dorky
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 08:26 |
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To be fair, you look at the physique of a guy like PAC and you definitely think,"Yeah I could be looking in a mirror, that's definitely an average body type."
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 08:39 |
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What's funny is how they miss old school land of the giants WWF/WCW, not even realizing that having a bunch of smaller guys makes the really big dudes seem even bigger. Dustin's practically a giant in AEW, where he used to be fairly average.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 09:17 |
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Dustin is one of those guys that's actually really big but no one noticed because he was never really booked as big man, same with Scott Hall to a lesser extent. Cage is only 6 feet tall, he's super jacked but it's not like he's an attraction type giant.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 09:40 |
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Every promotion that books Brian Cage gives him a big push out of the gate, then realizes that he doesn't actually have that much going for him, his run fizzles out and he leaves whining about how he wasn't pushed hard enough. He moves on to another company and rinse repeat. He does this same routine every time and it's just tiring now. At some point it stops being the booker's fault that you didn't get over.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:00 |
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I bet some of these guys would be shocked to look at the heights of basically every My Olympia ever. Only Schwarzenegger breaks 6 ft out of all the champions.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:07 |
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TheKingslayer posted:I bet some of these guys would be shocked to look at the heights of basically every My Olympia ever. Only Schwarzenegger breaks 6 ft out of all the champions. This reminds me of how people were laughing at how tiny AEW wrestlers are because Billy Gunn looked huge in a battle royal before it was pointed out to them that he's bigger than Brock Lesnar. At the end of the day a lot of this stuff comes down to presentation.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:15 |
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Zombie Lemur posted:This reminds me of how people were laughing at how tiny AEW wrestlers are because Billy Gunn looked huge in a battle royal before it was pointed out to them that he's bigger than Brock Lesnar. This isnt quite accurate, Brock is a freak under any denomination. It's not his height, it's his back and chest - he is wiiiiiiiiide. He looked like a freak in UFC too. He's just Brock. Rhea Ripley has the same thing in that she looks like a huge hoss but she's not even that tall in the womens division but she is thick.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:40 |
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gary strydom is only 5'9. smh.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:45 |
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Lid posted:This isnt quite accurate, Brock is a freak under any denomination. It's not his height, it's his back and chest - he is wiiiiiiiiide. He looked like a freak in UFC too. He's just Brock. Rhea Ripley has the same thing in that she looks like a huge hoss but she's not even that tall in the womens division but she is thick. Brock is a freak of nature, but people were talking about how Gunn was so much taller than everyone in the ring. Turns out it's because he's tall!
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 10:47 |
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If Walmart stock clerks looked like Hangman Page I'd spend a lot more time there
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 12:07 |
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https://twitter.com/keemzus/status/1459005235020673024?s=20
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 15:56 |
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https://twitter.com/AngelInvestorOG/status/1458980037185654785
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 17:27 |
Many people are saying this
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 17:41 |
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I was with him until the last part of the last sentence.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 18:13 |
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ah yes the Man Of 1000 Rest Holds Randy Orton
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 20:20 |
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Also, Cena is a very very good worker in his specific style, but he ain't ZSJ.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 20:35 |
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Cena is one of the few people who could tell WWE he's wrestling whatever style he feels like. If he were a ring technician, we would know.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 20:48 |
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https://twitter.com/theenemiespe3/status/1459152078463459342?s=21 This is like giving Osama Bin Laden credit for the Fifty Shades of Grey books.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 20:49 |
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https://twitter.com/toejamcentral/status/1459174274460233733?s=20
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:01 |
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Love when we get a 2 for 1.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:12 |
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I may have posted this before but why are these people so obsessed with "Casual Viewers?" Usually nerd fandoms loving DESPISE casuals
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:19 |
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Love when we get a 2 for 1. much value
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:20 |
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For a brief period of time wrestling was trendy and cool and a generation of fans became convinced that that was a normal "cycle" and the thing to chase. And like the wrestling companies or wrestlers or whoever aren't immune to it either which is how you end up with celebrity crossover stuff.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:22 |
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The weirdest part of it is that AEW is so much more accessible for casual fans. They have simple show structures, explain things well as they're happening, and tell you ahead of time what's going to be on the show.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:28 |
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STAC Goat posted:For a brief period of time wrestling was trendy and cool and a generation of fans became convinced that that was a normal "cycle" and the thing to chase. And like the wrestling companies or wrestlers or whoever aren't immune to it either which is how you end up with celebrity crossover stuff. Thinking about it, it makes a lot of sense that a lot of wrestling fans (and people who are in the business) look back so fondly on the Attitude Era that they've convinced themselves that level of popularity is what the Normal for wrestling is supposed to be when in reality it was like 4 years of explosive popularity out of several decades
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:29 |
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Drakkel posted:I may have posted this before but why are these people so obsessed with "Casual Viewers?" Usually nerd fandoms loving DESPISE casuals If you don't have any real argument to back up why you don't like something and don't have any creativity to come up with some really weird argument it's a good stand by.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:31 |
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Drakkel posted:I may have posted this before but why are these people so obsessed with "Casual Viewers?" Usually nerd fandoms loving DESPISE casuals Imagine it like if Star Wars was hemorrhaging viewers because it sucked and nobody cared about it anymore, but Star Trek was consistently putting out Wrath of Khan & peak-TNG level content, so the only remaining Star Wars stans had to rely on "hey look it's got sweet pew-pew lasers and light swords" as their main selling point.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:35 |
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And the thing is its not even a bad idea to try and pull in new viewers. Every business does it and growing your audience/client base is the main goal most of the time. "Casual viewers" is just a wrestling term for the idea. And to that end its not even necessarily a bad thing to bring in a Shaq or ATT to try and pull over some new eyes, but none of it matters if you're not producing a decent product that might interest them when they tune over. I also think there's like a weird self loathing thing from wrestling fans where like the dedicated ones who have spend decades just watching whatever wrestling was available to them has convinced themselves that the problem is wrestling itself. And that gives birth to this "less wrestling is what brings in the casuals" thing because I guess it makes sense right? If you they liked wrestling they'd have been watching that wrestling before, right? It couldn't be that they just thought that was bad, right? Because then why was I watching?
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 21:49 |
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STAC Goat posted:And the thing is its not even a bad idea to try and pull in new viewers. Every business does it and growing your audience/client base is the main goal most of the time. "Casual viewers" is just a wrestling term for the idea. And to that end its not even necessarily a bad thing to bring in a Shaq or ATT to try and pull over some new eyes, but none of it matters if you're not producing a decent product that might interest them when they tune over. Part of the problem is that WWE has trained folks to see wrestling as an afterthought and therefore they don't make an effort to become literate in the matches, seeing them as incidental action scenes between the dialogue. And I think there ARE folks for whom the drama is more exciting than the matches, but when you can get both working and both are accessible, anyone can get into it if the interest is there. And Full Gear has done a really good job with that; even if they've delved into "popping the boys" territory a little too much for my tastes, every match has been built to, every story has some weight and the only thing that really needs a breakdown is Omega/Page, but even that can be boiled down to "Former friends, Hangman screwed it up but is trying to learn from it and be better, Omega is a cartoon supervillain driven by his own paranoia and now Hangman has a chance to redeem himself and stop the bad guy"
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 22:08 |
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This man's profile pic is Jesus holding the WWE TITLE.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 22:51 |
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JT Smiley posted:This man's profile pic is Jesus holding the WWE TITLE. Another performer buried by Roman reigns in the middle of a hot run.
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 23:34 |
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Zombie Lemur posted:Another performer buried by Roman reigns in the middle of a hot run. ayyyyy
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# ? Nov 12, 2021 23:41 |
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on my casual mindset grindset
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# ? Nov 13, 2021 00:27 |
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quote:Literally the only other time they've ever done this was when Paige tried to imply her suspension was over prescription medication and WWE said it was over "illegal substances" quote:Or, somehow, Keith was too dumb to submit his receipts for reimbursement from the medical plan. quote:This goes without mentioning that it seems Keith Lee built himself a bad reputation behind the scenes in WWE. I’m suspicious of this one. Like you, I don’t think they would mess around at all and find themselves in a CM Punk debacle
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# ? Nov 13, 2021 00:59 |
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Yeah it'd be a real shame if Keith Lee had to go to AEW and get huge pops and marquee matches every single week like poor CM Punk
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# ? Nov 13, 2021 01:08 |
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quote:I also just don't think Emi is really TV ready. She seems to get gassed pretty quickly and her "we will rock you" spot she keeps doing is really awkward and not over at all. I think they're on to something with her domineering Queen of Joshis persona that they can hone in on and build up but I just don't think that pushing her onto TV is the right move quite yet.
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# ? Nov 13, 2021 01:17 |
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Isn't it well-documented that if you're injured in the ring in WWE you basically just hand over a company insurance card and you don't pay for poo poo even up front?
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# ? Nov 13, 2021 01:19 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 17:35 |
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't it well-documented that if you're injured in the ring in WWE you basically just hand over a company insurance card and you don't pay for poo poo even up front? He wasn't injured in the ring though.
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