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Mage_Boy posted:I'm also not 100% on board with Matt and Perrin changes after episode 1 but willing to give it a try. It's interesting that they call it only "The Two Rivers" since they give each village a name in the trivia about the scene and they mentioned Taren Ferry by name. They go to Taren Ferry, just WAFO
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th3t00t posted:I was disappointed with the first episode and was genuinely worried. Episodes 2 and 3 were significantly better than 1 and I can’t wait to watch the rest. I loved it. Because they're introducing Ishamael's opposing viewpoint of the Wheel this early.
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Nov 19, 2021 04:01
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Did they skip the first meeting with Min or is that later on?
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adhuin posted:Did they skip the first meeting with Min or is that later on? They skipped Baerlon, Min will most likely show up in Fal Dara.
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Hughmoris posted:Just watched the first 3 episodes. I haven't read the first books in probably 20 years but I don't remember Perrin having a wife. Also, did Nynaeve track them down in the book?. Perrin only gets married in book four to Faile. Leila is a new character. Nynaeve does in fact track them down in the first books and Lan is impressed that she's able to do so.
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Nov 19, 2021 04:09
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Aiel are known to veil before killing.
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Nov 19, 2021 04:10
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The Mat and Perrin changes are the main thing I am kinda iffy on. Hopefully they justify them. Other stuff is cool though, I think making the whitecloaks more menacing is smart. making channeling some kind of tai chi is not how I would have approached it, but I don't think it really changes much in the overall story but will probably make some future scenes awkward when people are supposed to be channeling discreetly
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One thing about Moraine channeling: When she made the bath water warm they didn't show the one power at all, just the effect. The camera lingered on Nynaeve and Egwene before showing her channeling in the battle almost to say "this is what they see." This may change later, finished showering after I was on the exercise bike for all of episode one. Now on to 2 and 3!
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just finished the episodes and i'm really excited to see where they go with this. like yeah they've edited a couple things, but, at the end of the day you also have to consider how things will come off to first time viewers who have never read the books. nothing really sticks out in a way that would be weird to them.
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Nov 19, 2021 04:19
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welp i'm gonna be shipping rand and mat now
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Barreft posted:I loved it. Because they're introducing Ishamael's opposing viewpoint of the Wheel this early. It just seemed like they spent a lot of screen time introducing us to her as a character. We know more about random darkfriend #1’s backstory and aspirations than any of the main cast.
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I'm bit disappointed in lack of diversity ... for Trollocs. They're pretty similar to each other instead being varied looking beastmen like I expected. Maybe the CCG art made me expect bit more variance: 
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adhuin posted:I'm bit disappointed in lack of diversity ... for Trollocs. yeah they didn't do so great on that
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Nov 19, 2021 04:26
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RAND YOU ARE THE BATMAN, 'ARRY
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Rand definitely says how do you know elayne and not egwene oh I'm an idiot he says her name
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Nynaeve's actress has real strong Nynaeve energy and I am loving it. Not loving Perrin's Fridge-wife or the character assassination of Abell and Natti Cauthan but it's not like either will show up much again.
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Nov 19, 2021 04:34
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adhuin posted:I'm bit disappointed in lack of diversity ... for Trollocs. If you go back over it, you'll notice more diversity. There's wolf faced ones, boar faced ones, and even an eagle faced one that Moiraine fireballs in a blink and you'll miss it shot.
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Loved the sense of the dagger poisoning Mat in his conversation with Rand outside the inn in ep 3. Subtle enough that a new viewer wouldn’t think much of it, but a blaring red flag to a book reader
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touch nothing. eat only the food you brought. but have fun exploring!
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Kinda sad that Mat is my favorite so far considering he’s changing actors
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Brolander posted:predator reboot with nyn please As the predator or as Arnold?
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Gotta catch up to 3 now! It's really cool seeing everyone dig it.
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Three was really good, probly the best of the eps. Really liked the bartender character.
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gently caress, THIS SHOW IS ACTUALLY GOOD AHHH
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In ep 2 did Rand wake up because he detected channeling?
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adhuin posted:As the predator or as Arnold? Arnold was the predator
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I can’t believe how well pike pulled off the manetheren story. The whole way they did that sequence. Perfect.
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Thoughts on the first three eps. Spoilers for people who haven't watched yet. Episode 1: - Overall thought: First episode is probably the weakest feeling of the three, just due to the rushed pacing. However, I don't mind this given they want to actually finish the full series without taking 200 episodes. This episode has to do a lot of introducing and background and still gets the story moving. It suffers for it, but felt necessary. - The opening with the Reds was a great way of showing the madness and also hopefully foreshadowing LTT appearing to Rand. - Not super thrilled with the changes to the prophecy and so on, but it won't matter once Rand is revealed as the Dragon Reborn. - Not a fan of the changes to Matt's family, but Matt himself being a hero is well done. And maybe they can have a redemption arc if the Perrin/Two Rivers battle stuff comes into the show. - Like others have said, the super obvious fridging with Perrin is kind of ridiculous. I think she gets two total words before the Trolloc attack. I understand why we need to see Perrin's reluctance to violence, but probably could have been better without using a woman's death for it. Why not just keep it with Master Luhan or something to at least remove the gendered stereotype? - Rand and Egwene getting it on was great - awkward book Rand is frustrating, and with the characters being aged up there's no way they wouldn't have boned. - Nynaeve's story about her mentor/parent figure being turned away from the White Tower for being a peasant makes no sense if they keep Siuan as she was. Obviously possible that Nynaeve didn't get the actual story about why. - Tam talking to Rand about the Wheel and about how "All we can do is try to do better the next time" is amazing foreshadowing for Rand on Dragonmount at the end of The Gathering Storm, and could be a fantastic callback if they keep it. - The Trolloc attack/Moiraine and Lan fighting was loving awesome. Anyone worried about it being too non-violent can probably be assuaged by the first Trolloc that Moiraine literally rips in two. The channeling looked amazing, and I really hope they are able to keep the scale pumping up when we get to crazy Power battles later on like Dumai's Wells, Maradon, the manor-house, etc. - RIP the Winespring Inn, haha - Sad to miss Rand/Tam in the woods, but that would make Rand too obviously the centrepiece I think. Episode 2: -Overall thought: This episode is stronger than the previous, and gives the characters some time to breathe. I liked the interaction with Moiraine and the boys/Egwene. Rand comes across as a bit sulkier, but I think with the ferryman's death, it's more justified. Plus Rand didn't witness Moiraine's badassery in the battle. - Whitecloaks come across as a bit cartoonish, but at least they have menace more than relative incompetence it feels like. I think they are going for hand-motions being required for channeling (at least for the Aes Sedai). Moiraine seems to always need to gesture, and they removed the Yellow's hands here. Makes for a decent reason how Whitecloaks could burn Aes Sedai. - Getting the Manetheren story here is one of the closest bits that feels straight out of the books, and it works. Rosamund Pike does a great job in this episode in general. - Rand/Egwene getting snippy with each other also feels like a nice book moment, and it doesn't last long enough to get annoying. - The old bat in the mouth gag, classic Ishamael. Really liked this got brought in as the start of the dreams. \ - One general change to the series is how open people are generally. Moiraine is open about the search for the Dragon Reborn, she openly channels to sink the ferry, the boys/Egwene tell Moiraine about the dream and Ishamael immediately, and so on. I think this change works alright, but it's odd how little shock they have over being told that one of them is the Dragon Reborn. I guess at this point they probably just don't buy it. - Moiraine sinking the ferry and having the ferryman die was a great shorthand for how far Moiraine is willing to go on this quest. - Shadar Logoth! Looked so good! The dead quiet as soon as they got in, the tight streets and loving enormous wall all the way around, man the atmosphere was great. I don't mind skipping out on Mordeth, probably would have been too cheesy in a show and too obvious. Matt just following a shadow to the dagger was a good compromise. And I like Mashadar as a corrupting shadow instead of mist. I do wish they had the Trollocs/Fades still get forced into the city to show off Mashadar more. Bela better have made it out, is all I'm saying. Episode 3: -Overall thought: I think this the best of the three so far. Mat/Rand make a great traveling couple, and Mat's humor continues to be a highlight even with the dagger starting to work. Lan/Nynaeve have great chemistry and make that romance much more realistic (also helps he doesn't look twice her age). The Breen Spring was a good compression of all the Mat/Rand travels - working for supper, Darkfriends everywhere, Rand unknowingly using the power to break out, etc. - Nynaeve is a badass and it works. Holy poo poo. - Nynaeve literally tries to kill Lan, he gives her a concussion and ties her to a tree, and it is somehow basically their meet-cute. And it works! - Glad the herbs are making an appearance! - Liandrin is suitably evil looking without being obviously a Darkfriend. - Egwene/Perrin stumbling through the wilderness works pretty well - they look hungry and cold. - Perrin's dream is awesome - love the way Ba'alzamon just appears in the background for a split second here and there, very creepy. Hopper (presumably) chewing on Laila is an interesting touch - gives Perrin another reason to try to push the wolves away for a while, while it's not an overtly evil act (to the wolf I mean). Either that or it is just Perrin's internal guilt literally chewing at him. - The Tinkers work pretty well! Sure, they could be brighter-dressed, but hard to keep bright cloth that clean in the wilderness. Wonder if they will use Aram in the same way as the books for the series. - Mat/Rand are great together. - I like Thom's introduction - not the same gleeman as the books, but I like this Western cowboy version I think. The song being about LTT with Rand standing there in the light is a good touch. - Good introduction to some of the Aiel culture/dress/looks. Focus on the red hair feels obvious, but might be less so to non-readers. - I like that I didn't guess where the Dana plotline was going until she revealed it - probably obvious in retrospect. Still a great introduction to Darkfriends being anybody and everywhere, and not having to seem evil. - Rand using the Power in a way that is both subtle enough for him to not notice and obvious enough for the viewer was really well done. - Interesting that the whole nihilism/break the Wheel seems to be a more upfront motive of the Dark in this telling - in the books, Darkfriends usually just wanted power/glory etc., and it was only Ishamael and The Dark One that knew the true goal. All in all, super happy so far in comparison to how I thought it would be the first time I heard this was being made, and I can't wait for the rest of the season. The gap between seasons is going to be a bitch. Gully Foyle fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Finished all three, and definitely agree that they got stronger as they went along. Will definitely continue to see where this goes, and signs point to pretty good so far. For the person who was worried about the Saidar/Saidin split: There are little information blurbs that pop in the sidebar that change depending on the scene (for me at least they showed up when mousing over the video). The one showing when Logain appears at the end of Ep. 3 talks about Gentling and explicitly mentions Saidin.
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Perrin's wife is really unfortunate. Other than that, really great, and each episode felt better than the last.
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Gully Foyle posted:
I was thinking about this point too. I wonder if they do it in a flashback to avoid the upfront giveaway.
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Man, if they keep this accelerated pace up in general, then The Slog is going to be half of a season. This is a delightful adaptation that I never thought I'd see. I'd rate it higher than Game of Thrones, if only because it isn't afraid to make changes and not be beat-for-beat of its [True] source material.
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Mage_Boy posted:I was thinking about this point too. I wonder if they do it in a flashback to avoid the upfront giveaway. Maybe a flickering between the present where Rand's using the Eye of the World and cementing the whole Dragon Reborn fact, the road with Tam deliriously talking, and the scene in the trailer of Tigraine on Dragonmount? Mainly I just feel like the scene on Dragonmount has to have some narrative context in the show for why we're flashing back to that.
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Out of a full barrel of great casting in episode 1, Padan Fain is 10000% the best.
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I've internalized that this is an adaptation - another turning of the Wheel - watched all three episodes and: no notes. I'm loving it and I'm hype for next week.
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Episode 1 thought: I kind of get what they did with giving Perrin a wife, but it felt like there was a missing scene. She skipped Egwene's braiding and Perrin was checking in on her like there was something wrong with her or she was upset and then she was just dead. Maybe she was a darkfriend and started getting the dreams like Dana the barkeep? But even then it still felt like she was put in just to have someone to kill.
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