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ChubbyChecker posted:had they changed the aes sedai vows? iirc they had something about it being allowed to cast lightning bolts at shadowspawn Technically it also allows them to use the power against darkfriends too, even when not in danger.
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ChubbyChecker posted:perrin's wife was a completely unnecessary character. nothing would have changed if she had been removed I don't disagree, but we had like 9 books of him being constantly afraid of injuring people and hating the axe with little justification in the text. Murking a few white looks in a rage while afraid for life was hardly enough for it, so I can't really argue with wanting to give that a better justification. But unless we find out she was a dark friend or something, you could gotten the same out of him accidentally killing another blacksmith apprentice or villager hiding in the smithy Though it's gonna make his romance with Faile even more disfunctional that it already was The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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The Glumslinger posted:Though it's gonna make his romance with Faile even more disfunctional that it already was at least it will be a different reason than the canonical one, that they are both idiots
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the manetheren speech's placement and execution was really odd it would have worked so much better in its original place
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ChubbyChecker posted:the manetheren speech's placement and execution was really odd They were already struggling to cram everything they needed into that first ep, totally makes sense why it was moved
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ChubbyChecker posted:had they changed the aes sedai vows? iirc they had something about it being allowed to cast lightning bolts at shadowspawn I think it just tightens it up. If you're close enough to lightning a trolloc, your life is in danger.
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JOHN SKELETON posted:A friend was criticizing the costumes as being over the top colorful and modern for the supposed time period. Which, ok I guess, I don't know enough to have an opinion, but what I do know is that the Whitecloaks look absolutely perfect. People already replied to you, but I will add: -It isn't a 'time period', it's a fantasy setting. With literally different cultures than ours. -Even if it was a 'time period', it isn't really 1200s Middle Ages. Technologically speaking it's more ~1650 but without gunpowder. -Even if it was a 'time period', people in middle ages or even before liked colorful stuff. Even to the point of being garish, some times. The limit was economic (a poor peasant wouldn't have them) and I think they used a few less colors than now, as they didn't have the correct way to do tinctures for a pair of them. Maybe that was more in Roman times and I'm mixing it up.
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The fridgeing was very funny in 2021 when they made such a big deal about gender dynamics in the promo stuff. This lady gotta die so people don't think Perrin is a pussy for not being willing to go to violence immediately. Even if the wife was a darkfriend, are they going to explore that in flashbacks? I think not. Its not Legion
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I do agree that it's actually really silly how much the producers were going on for years about being inclusive and sensitive to 21st century race and gender dynamics and then they went and added a completely new female character just to fridge in episode one. Looks like there's still a teeny bit of gender essentialism in there after all 
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It almost feels like they were like "Hey, we can do this because we're so clearly not doing it for the normal reason" and thought it'd get a pass.
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CainFortea posted:It almost feels like they were like "Hey, we can do this because we're so clearly not doing it for the normal reason" and thought it'd get a pass. If its not for the normal reasons they have some work ahead of them to make that pay off. Who knows, maybe I will feel shame in 2 weeks at doubting the writers and shake my fist at the sky. Given how fast forward the narrative is I don't see a flashback episode being a thing in season 1 though
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Interview with Rafe Judkins and the guy who did the GQ article here: https://www.theringer.com/2021/11/19/22792149/the-wheel-of-time-premiere-with-zach-baron-and-rafe-judkins Turin Turambar posted:People already replied to you, but I will add: Yeah, if anything the costumes are more subdued than they should be for the theoretical time-period-equivalent. That said the Whitecloak costumes are probably the biggest problem overall in terms of realistic outfits so far https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1451048554315714564?s=20
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overall this has been a weird but fun experience so far i first read any of these books when I was ~14ish so there was definitely a confused moment of "wait did I forget Perrin having an entire wife??!?"
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Turin Turambar posted:People already replied to you, but I will add: Also its set 3000 years in the future from a timeline that is probably thousands of years in OUR future. So lol
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CainFortea posted:It almost feels like they were like "Hey, we can do this because we're so clearly not doing it for the normal reason" and thought it'd get a pass. It gets slightly more of a pass from me because at least now the big, strong guy with the cool powers and a really big connection to Norse mythology isn't a literal lone wolf who doesn't know how to talk to women. But only slightly more.
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Obviously the solution would have been for Perrin to have a husband who he accidentally killed.
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i'm probably going to have to see what comes up with the rest of this season in regards to the laila thing before i give too much of a poo poo, offhand. don't really see a reason to try to form a complete picture with less than half of the episodes out.
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One thing i remember being pretty unclear in The Eye of the World (and equally so in the show so far) is Two Rivers' relationship to the rest of the world initially it seems like a completely isolated backwater (e.g. the Shire) later however we find out it's entirely within Andor, the people there just don't seem very aware of being in Andor so rand shows up in Caemlyn like "hey what's this place" like it ain't where Tam's taxes have presumably been ending up for years maybe I'm just underestimating the limitations of information availability in a pre-industrial society would people in Auvergne in 1500 have been like "Paris? What's that?"
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PupsOfWar posted:so rand shows up in Caemlyn like "hey what's this place" like it ain't where Tam's taxes have presumably been ending up for years It's called out specifically that the Two Rivers haven't seen a tax collector in like a 100 years. The only taxes they've been paying is to the council. like, they've *heard* of Caemlyn, and read about it in books. But that's as far as it goes.
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yeah, the two rivers is literally just ignored by andor and the only 'ownership' the latter claims is basically only due to map borders and the way they're drawn which have had no relevance whatsoever to the people in the two rivers. there's no interaction at all, so it's why the people from there kind of laugh about royal claims to that area.
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Johnny Joestar posted:i'm probably going to have to see what comes up with the rest of this season in regards to the laila thing before i give too much of a poo poo, offhand. don't really see a reason to try to form a complete picture with less than half of the episodes out. how dare you approach this rationally *tears up ur tvtrope bingo card*
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Leo dacaprio meme but I’m pointing out all the tropes as i watch a tv show, hooting and cheering like mad
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Johnny Joestar posted:i'm probably going to have to see what comes up with the rest of this season in regards to the laila thing before i give too much of a poo poo, offhand. don't really see a reason to try to form a complete picture with less than half of the episodes out. Yea, but coming up with theories and geeking out about them is part of the fun.
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Laila worked for me  particularly since we got to see Perrin hulk the gently caress out
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CainFortea posted:It's called out specifically that the Two Rivers haven't seen a tax collector in like a 100 years. Not just that; Moiraine says that there's hardly a nation in Randland that actually holds the land it claims on a map. Andor is just exceptional in having lost all but nominal claim over a region the size of another kingdom.
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CainFortea posted:Yea, but coming up with theories and geeking out about them is part of the fun. yeah i mean, theories are good and fine. i think it sucks that they fridged her right away but part of me maybe feels like they have further plans for the character, especially if she actually was a darkfriend like some people think she might be. i'll just have to wait and see, i guess. mostly i feel like it'll be a weird and wasted opportunity if literally they added an entirely new character, gave her two lines, and then iced her for good, you know? which it's entirely possible they did, but i get the feeling there's maybe something more planned, and it could involve fantasy satan with the power over dead people's souls.
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Jedit posted:Not just that; Moiraine says that there's hardly a nation in Randland that actually holds the land it claims on a map. Andor is just exceptional in having lost all but nominal claim over a region the size of another kingdom. Eh, the Two Rivers itself isn't big, it really is a small part of Andor. It was itself just a tiny part of Manetheren, but it was the central part right next to the capital. One thing I've heard people complain about is the small size of the longbows in the show, but the book longbows made no sense in the world of the Wheel of Time. They are obviously meant to be analogous to the English longbows of the Hundred Years War fame. But the training required to draw and aim with accuracy was lifelong and difficult, to the point of the crown at various point issuing laws requiring training or banning non-archery sports. Yet somehow the Two Rivers, who haven't seen conflict on any significant scale in centuries and have no centralized source of authority or power, maintain not only the bows themselves but train to the point where they are taking on Trolloc armies with very little warning and providing forces of hundreds or even thousands of archers to the conflicts leading up to the Last Battle.
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Maybe they like them and find them fun.
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Gully Foyle posted:Yet somehow the Two Rivers, who haven't seen conflict on any significant scale in centuries and have no centralized source of authority or power, maintain not only the bows themselves but train to the point where they are taking on Trolloc armies with very little warning and providing forces of hundreds or even thousands of archers to the conflicts leading up to the Last Battle. yeah it'd make more sense if we learned that they're semi-notable for longbow companies during major wars or something. enough that it's understood by generals from kingdoms in the area that you'd expect the region to provide archers
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Gully Foyle posted:
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There was a certain cultural element to the english longbow, though. Robin Hood and local archery contests and so forth. It was definitely nationally encouraged by the government but there was also the cultural trend to encourage in the first place.
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Jedit posted:Andor is just exceptional in having only lost all but nominal claim over Andor was forced to chose (within living memory, from Morgase's account) between retaining Two Rivers wool and tabac and rich ores form another part of the kingdom, and chose the iron and gold. Most nations have lost far, far more.
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they were just out there grinding, ready to be a bramble to his hand again when time came to hop off the bench
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And why don’t they make the whole city wall out of cuendillar???
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buffalo all day posted:And why don’t they make the whole city wall out of cuendillar??? Egwene could make it happen
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Amazon has a merch store up but it's mostly kinda lame https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/0BC43353-8250-4BAF-88F9-93C728F3EE38 No rings, no swords, no tainted daggers that will drive you mad
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Not gonna lie if I saw somebody wearing one of those quote shirts I would pretend I'd never heard of any of it.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Dads: A Spectrum also included in the spectrum of daddery (ffxiv spoilers) gaius van baelsar
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