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ChubbyChecker posted:yeah, it's p. obvious I didnt get this at all. Did I miss something about this "secret Malkieri" thing? Gully Foyle fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Gully Foyle posted:I didnt get this at all. Did I miss something about this "secret Malkieri" thing? I think you missed a couple of people not knowing the difference between Malkier and Manetheren. Because that's what they couldn't telegraph harder if they tried.
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Dec 1, 2021 11:39
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Jedit posted:I think you missed a couple of people not knowing the difference between Malkier and Manetheren. Because that's what they couldn't telegraph harder if they tried. Did they say Manetheren? I swear it was "the last king and queen of Malkier", but it was almost a week ago and I could be misremembering. It would make a lot more sense. The primary reason I asked is because making her a secret descendant of the Malkier royals would make her relationship with Lan very Game of Thrones and would not be a good idea.
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Dec 1, 2021 12:10
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Devorum posted:Did they say Manetheren? I swear it was "the last king and queen of Malkier", but it was almost a week ago and I could be misremembering. It's not totally impossible that I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not. Oh no, an excuse to watch the episode again, how will we ever cope?
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Dec 1, 2021 12:14
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I absolutely heard Manetheren every time I watched it
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Dec 1, 2021 12:23
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The subtitles say Manetheren.
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Dec 1, 2021 12:38
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Yeah, I just rewatched the scene and it's definitely Manetheren. I guess my brain just misfired in the moment. I've never been so glad to discover I was wrong about what was being heavily telegraphed.
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Dec 1, 2021 12:43
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Khizan posted:I checked this. In the epilogue he has a single saa, shaped like the Dragon's Fang, floating unmoving in his right eye. Fuckin floaters
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Dec 1, 2021 13:35
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I just want to say I continue to really appreciate this passage early on in Gideon the Ninth: "But then he did something perfect. It was probably recorded in some lovely Seventh-style swordplay book as TWO CROWS DRINKING WATER or THE BOY STRANGLES THE GOOSE."
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Dec 1, 2021 14:10
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imo it would cheapen things a bit to give nynaeve undiscovered royal heritage so i'd rather that not happen. they're doing a little bit to make her childhood more mysterious but it could very well just be fodder to explain why she's standoff-ish a bit.
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Dec 1, 2021 14:48
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i wonder what conflict her parents would've even been killed in? aiel war doesn't seem right also who they were that they'd know significant quotes in the old tongue
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Dec 1, 2021 14:49
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eke out posted:i wonder what conflict her parents would've even been killed in? aiel war doesn't seem right my guess is it’s the 1987 Denver Broncos
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Dec 1, 2021 14:52
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The changes they made to Nynaeve's background seem strange to me because ultimately they aren't important to her character. Her parents are both dead from disease by the time the books start so they've never been a part of who she is, her first channeling is because of Egwene. I don't mind them, but I also don't see the point of them at this point in the show.
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Dec 1, 2021 14:59
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Devorum posted:Yeah, I just rewatched the scene and it's definitely Manetheren. I guess my brain just misfired in the moment. lmao i rewatched it too, and the subtitles do say manetheren and not malkier. i got the exactly same brain misfire
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Dec 1, 2021 15:00
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eke out posted:i wonder what conflict her parents would've even been killed in? aiel war doesn't seem right The timeline fits for the Aiel War, and the whole Two Rivers area is full of weird lingering touches of Manetheran handed down for centuries as bits and bobs of tradition, like the archery practice or the anti-Trolloc polearm tactics disguised as Bel Tine quarterstaff competitions.
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Dec 1, 2021 15:08
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:The timeline fits for the Aiel War, and the whole Two Rivers area is full of weird lingering touches of Manetheran handed down for centuries as bits and bobs of tradition, like the archery practice or the anti-Trolloc polearm tactics disguised as Bel Tine quarterstaff competitions. Maybe if they're from somewhere in Cairhien directly in the path of the invasion? I didn't think it fit because it doesn't seem like the Aiel war was a "hide your children and everyone go out to fight a last ditch stand" thing for pretty much anyone in this region (and if they're not in the region, what's the Manetheren connection)
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Dec 1, 2021 15:15
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She just says that their village was attacked, which could be literally anything. There's all kinds of border skirmishes in the world, whether it's Tear and Illian, Andor and Cairhein/Murandy, Murandy/Ghealdan, or Tarabon and Arad Doman.
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Dec 1, 2021 15:29
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Yea, I really don't think they're projecting her being royalty or anything. It's just an old saying. The x-ray at the time is talking about Malkier, which is why some people might have been confused. But it's talking about how the Old Tongue is a dead language, and only nobles are really taught it. Which is why it would make sense that it would just be a tradition in some village, that people wouldn't know. Also I really love the fact that Lan doesn't just translate it for her. He knows it's important to her so he asks if she wants it translated.
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Dec 1, 2021 15:36
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Turns out Tigraine had twins...
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The changes they made to Nynaeve's background seem strange to me because ultimately they aren't important to her character. Her parents are both dead from disease by the time the books start so they've never been a part of who she is, her first channeling is because of Egwene. I don't mind them, but I also don't see the point of them at this point in the show. The two rivers is not as isolated or unknown in the TV series and even given the unreliable narration, it's implied that the kin is a much more open secret with rotations and all that jazz stretching all the way to the two rivers.
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Dec 1, 2021 16:00
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Speaking of Quarterstaff Fighting, I'll be heartbroken if we don't get the scene in S2 where Matt beats the poo poo out of a couple Warders with his staff like its NBD.
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Dec 1, 2021 16:13
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ive heard rumors of 4 ta'veren in emonds field, taren farry and devon ride and by gum it put them on the map
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Dec 1, 2021 16:13
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Sanguinia posted:Speaking of Quarterstaff Fighting, I'll be heartbroken if we don't get the scene in S2 where Matt beats the poo poo out of a couple Warders with his staff like its NBD. they turned the story of the warder getting his rear end beat into a cool animated short, for ep 3 i think, so they definitely seem aware of it
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Dec 1, 2021 16:14
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Sanguinia posted:Speaking of Quarterstaff Fighting, I'll be heartbroken if we don't get the scene in S2 where Matt beats the poo poo out of a couple Warders with his staff like its NBD. Every episode that passes I get more bummed that Mat got recast
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buffalo all day posted:ive heard rumors of 4 ta'veren in emonds field, taren farry and devon ride and by gum it put them on the map Nah, its not for you, Ta'veren is more of a Watch Hill idea...
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Dec 1, 2021 16:23
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curious if they might try to link the wolf thing to the whole 'ancient manetheren' angle in the show and make that more a thing since perrin's whole arc involves the lordship and all that going on would be fine if they did that, imo
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Dec 1, 2021 16:29
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Looks like they get to Tar Valon this week  https://twitter.com/PrimeVideoIN/status/1466044412992102402
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Dec 1, 2021 16:40
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That's moving awfully fast, but it feels right for the TV presentation. It's a good time to get to some Fantasy City Spectacle.
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Dec 1, 2021 16:43
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Certified fresh  https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_wheel_of_time/s01 
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Dec 1, 2021 16:54
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Not gonna lie, I'm surprised e. that it is pretty quality
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Hexel posted:Looks like they get to Tar Valon this week Man I have no idea what's going to happen in this episode. Aside from the Perrin/Whitecloaks stuff and Moiraine/Siuan reunion I can't think of much of anything from the books that would fit here
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Dec 1, 2021 17:07
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Seems to be some kind of internal tower politics. Will we get a surprise Elaida?? No idea who the two powerful enemies could be.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The changes they made to Nynaeve's background seem strange to me because ultimately they aren't important to her character. Her parents are both dead from disease by the time the books start so they've never been a part of who she is, her first channeling is because of Egwene. I don't mind them, but I also don't see the point of them at this point in the show. We're along for the ride so I think now am trying to not dwell on the less-good bits, and just enjoy the show for what it is. Rarity posted:Man I have no idea what's going to happen in this episode. Aside from the Perrin/Whitecloaks stuff and Moiraine/Siuan reunion I can't think of much of anything from the books that would fit here
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Dec 1, 2021 17:46
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Sanguinia posted:I think that's a pretty tenuous theory because it demands that you acknowledge free will exists in the book's universe but also argue that free will is meaningless in the book's universe. We never see Ta'veren undermine free will, the closest it comes is when Verin's attempts to use Traveling and Skimming keep leading her back to Mat, and it doesn't change her desire to travel, it just makes her give up on leaving until she does whatever the thing she needs to do with Mat is. Rand's Ta'veren nature never even goes that far with any of his romantic partners. You can argue its why he met them, but none of them fell in love with him because random luck kept forcing them together until they gave up on their heartfelt desire to not love him and just gave in. Nobody tripped and fell onto his dick. Because the author is inconsistent. He makes his climax be about free will but mostly doesn't care about it in more minor roles. Aviendha explicitly tries to run from fate, to the point of almost killing herself in a blizzard. Min explicitly states in Salidar when she and Elayne meet up that she didn't want to fall in love and certainly doesn't want to share her partner but she had no choice. Direct quote "not that either of us has much choice". Rand doesn't have a choice either. Nobody has good, enthusiastic and positive consent in that entire 4 way relationship. quote:I love Thom's guitar, but I also hope we get to see him do some Court Barding with a Harp to really show the contrast between his old life and the one we meet him in. I really liked that scene, good character intro and the song wasn't bad at all.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I''ve been reading his Conan books Good lord, they are. In Conan the Triumphant there's a chapter that's just sex...Conan doesn't even kill anyone...which is unheard of for a Conan story! Sanguinia posted:EDIT: Also, I bet Asmodean wrote that song. What a prick. Cute idea, but the timeline doesn't match up. Asmodean was already sealed in Shayol Ghul by the time LTT broke the world. And where we are in the story, only Ishy should be free, so if Asmodean wrote it, there'd be no way for Thom to have heard it. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Hexel posted:Looks like they get to Tar Valon this week they put a dick & balls tower on the vagina island
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:wheel of time is bare minimum horny for a series about human beings to whom the reader is supposed to relate. the only way there could be less sex in the series is if babies were delivered by stork. the worst you can say about it is there's more spanking than average. and the collars are going to look weird probably. It's a really bizarre dichotomy because WoT is less explicitly horny for a fantasy series than average, but the author's breast fetish is way more prevalent than most. Like I've read books with multiple explicit sex scenes that mentioned breasts less often per chapter(and had less spanking).
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Jaxyon posted:It's a really bizarre dichotomy because WoT is less explicitly horny for a fantasy series than average, but the author's breast fetish is way more prevalent than most. it's written like a bodice ripper anytime two romantic interests are together it's unbelievably hornt. the main characters are weirdly prudish as country bumpkins but that is directly referenced by other characters. One of these prudes is constantly at war internally over wanting to wear sexy dresses.
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Dec 1, 2021 18:26
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CainFortea posted:Didn't the pattern also light his pipe for him? When he was fighting the DO, at one point he was weaving the very essence of the pattern, not the 5 elements channelers usually do. I always got the impression that when he lit the pipe, it was from having that connection to how it all works and he could now affect things at a more primal level (the essence of thought). It’s never actually explained by Sanderson or otherwise so we don’t really know.
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Famethrowa posted:it's written like a bodice ripper anytime two romantic interests are together it's unbelievably hornt. the main characters are weirdly prudish as country bumpkins but that is directly referenced by other characters. One of these prudes is constantly at war internally over wanting to wear sexy dresses. Clothing is like the biggest thing discussed in the entire circus chapters. like the actual show is barely mentioned but I could probably sketch Nyneave and Elaynes clothing from memory, given how often necklines and legs were covered.
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