|
Yeah don't know where the idea that they were "ascended fans" came from. They're trust funders who networked into it.
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 05:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 23:35 |
|
|
jsoh posted:their main qualifications are daddies money tbf only benioff is a trust-fund baby, as i recall but given who his dad is i can imagine a trust-fund big enough to support both him and a number of hangers-on
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 05:42
|
|
|
mind the walrus posted:Yeah don't know where the idea that they were "ascended fans" came from. They're trust funders who networked into it. I think it might come from that meeting they had with GRRM where it was said they knew a lot about the series and he trusted them to adapt it, but the only real takeaway was “they knew about R+L=J”, which isn’t exactly a huge thing that most people who read the books once would figure out.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 14:50
|
|
|
Yeah GRRM clearly just wanted the money if he actually used that mystery as a litmus test for "they read my work?" He should've asked them something like who wrote the pink letter
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 19:17
|
|
|
Mameluke posted:Yeah GRRM clearly just wanted the money if he actually used that mystery as a litmus test for "they read my work?" He should've asked them something like who wrote the pink letter That books wasn't released yet. He should still have asked it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 19:25
|
|
|
Mameluke posted:Yeah GRRM clearly just wanted the money if he actually used that mystery as a litmus test for "they read my work?" He should've asked them something like who wrote the pink letter Well in 2007 when this discussion occurred A Dance with Dragons didn’t exist and so neither did any of the Northern Plot.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2021 22:50
|
|
|
I don't know how this thread feels about fan art, but I made some stuff. In the Forsaken sample chapter from TWOW Euron wears a crown made of black iron and shark teeth. I thought that sound cool so I made one out of polymer clay and a cake pan.  That was fun, so I decided to make another thing based on fan theories for TWOW and ADOS. It's suggested that Euron is a failed student of the Three Eyed Crow and that he might have a psychic showdown with Bran at some point. I figure for that to happen Bran's mentor has to die, and I'd guess Euron kills him. I thought it'd be badass for Euron to wear a three eyed crow's skull for a necklace.  I hadn't really sculpted since middle school art class, so they are pretty amateurish, but they were a fun covid project anyway.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 01:48
|
|
|
Both of those are dope as hell.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 03:32
|
|
|
imagine still caring about these worthless books enough to do fanart (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 04:36
|
|
|
Flesnolk posted:imagine still caring about these worthless books enough to do fanart imagine still caring about these worthless books enough to bitterly post in the thread about them on a dead gay comedy forum on a friday night
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 04:43
|
|
|
That post sucked very much & those artifacts are cool.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 05:02
|
|
|
deoju posted:imagine still caring about these worthless books enough to bitterly post in the thread about them on a dead gay comedy forum on a friday night Hey I do that too. That guy is just a loser dickhead. Your artifacts are loving legit and we wouldn't give a gently caress about GRRM's brain droppings if they were completely bereft of value. That's kind-of the entire point of our collective buyer's remorse.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 05:17
|
|
|
Oh. Yeah. I get that feeling. I just meant to express that that goon was a hypocrite in addition to being an rear end in a top hat.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 05:24
|
|
|
GRRM really hurt that man.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 05:34
|
|
|
GRRM hurt all of us
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 05:48
|
|
|
deoju posted:I don't know how this thread feels about fan art, but I made some stuff. This is cool as hell.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2021 18:13
|
|
|
I thought I'd mention that I finished reading the final book in The Expanse series this week, was just released on November 30th. Pretty great stuff all the way through, I'd highly recommend it. The series is nine novels in total, along with a handful of short stories and novellas that came out between novels. The first novel came out 5 weeks before A Dance With Dragons. But for 5 weeks, you could say that they managed to release an entire 9-novel sci-fi saga in less time than it took grrm to finish a single book. Phenotype fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Dec 5, 2021 |
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 01:29
|
|
|
Phenotype posted:I thought I'd mention that I finished reading the final book in The Expanse series this week, was just released on November 30th. Pretty great stuff all the way through, I'd highly recommend it. it's probably not entirely a coincidence that GRRM's workflow hit terminal stagnation at the same time Ty Franck's writing career took off
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 01:34
|
|
|
I've been meaning to read The Expanse. I'm normally not into Sci-Fi, but I listened to a bit of Alt Shift X's interview with Dan and Ty and he made the world and concepts behind the books sound really interesting.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 02:40
|
|
|
First bit is good but it kind of went off the rails in a way that felt against what made the beginning interesting. I’mrs well written I just wasn’t on board for where the story went. I should probably give it another go.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 03:09
|
|
|
The Expanse always sounded like a franchise that should be up everyone's alley but just... somehow isn't plugging in the way it "should." It'll probably get appraised as some sleeper masterpiece in decades coming forth.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 03:23
|
|
|
I hadn't read the books, but my friend swears up and down about how great the books were, so I was really hoping to love the TV show. I was extremely disappointed when they shifted to making James "I am profoundly boring" Holden the main character.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 03:57
|
|
Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
|
PittTheElder posted:I hadn't read the books, but my friend swears up and down about how great the books were, so I was really hoping to love the TV show. I was extremely disappointed when they shifted to making James "I am profoundly boring" Holden the main character. Is Space Jon Snow not the main character in the books? I’ve only watched the show.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 04:23
|
|
|
Klungar posted:Is Space Jon Snow not the main character in the books? I’ve only watched the show. The only Space Jon Snow I recognize is that time Kit Harrington played the villain in that sci-fi Call of Duty game where he was basically just "Jon Snow as Cobra Commander".
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 05:03
|
|
|
Klungar posted:Is Space Jon Snow not the main character in the books? I’ve only watched the show. Holden is the protagonist from the beginning, so I'm not sure what the poster means by saying they "shifted" to that it's an ensemble, but one with a clear Character 1A PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 5, 2021 |
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 06:56
|
|
|
PupsOfWar posted:Holden is the protagonist from the beginning, so I'm not sure what the poster means by saying they "shifted" to that Crazy Space Detective is interesting, Holden is not, so it's easy to think that the protagonist is Crazy Space Detective, it just isn't. It's definitely not some unrecognized masterpiece. It's a mediocre gritty space opera that runs out of steam after 3 books but just keeps going because at least the authors have work ethic.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 10:11
|
|
|
pseudanonymous posted:It's a mediocre gritty space opera that runs out of steam after 3 books but just keeps going because at least the authors have work ethic. Not anymore. The final book just came out. The Expanse is now officially finished. With Wheel of Time being finished posthumously, that's now two long series of novels finished in the time we've patiently waited for GRRM to complete his work
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 11:23
|
|
|
TK-42-1 posted:First bit is good but it kind of went off the rails in a way that felt against what made the beginning interesting. I’mrs well written I just wasn’t on board for where the story went. I should probably give it another go. Yeah that's where I am with it, I really liked the first few books then at some point I got the new book and was all excited and then got a few pages in and just "ehhhh" and I stopped. Is the show good? Is the show finished? Should I watch it?
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 14:55
|
|
|
The show is good, or at least the first few seasons were when I binged them during a bout of what turned out not to be Covid..
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 15:31
|
|
|
deoju posted:I don't know how this thread feels about fan art, but I made some stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4mf35D7K_8
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 19:06
|
|
|
I mean that stuff is pretty cool and I wish I was in any way shape or form that artistic. The book series is still dead and dumb.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 20:59
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah that's where I am with it, I really liked the first few books then at some point I got the new book and was all excited and then got a few pages in and just "ehhhh" and I stopped. The final season of the show premiers this month. Only will cover content through the first 6 (of 9) books.
|
|
#
?
Dec 5, 2021 23:26
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah that's where I am with it, I really liked the first few books then at some point I got the new book and was all excited and then got a few pages in and just "ehhhh" and I stopped. The show is good but they appear to be taking an odd route of "lets just end this at a weird mid point and not resolve the actual interesting parts of the book" Like imagine if GoT ended all the politics poo poo and just went "uhhh..ice zombies? maybe you'll see them in a cartoon or something down the road? lol later" [Roll Credits]
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 00:49
|
|
|
banned from Starbucks posted:Like imagine if GoT ended all the politics poo poo and just went "uhhh..ice zombies? heh yeah imagine that
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 00:54
|
|
|
Klungar posted:The final season of the show premiers this month. Only will cover content through the first 6 (of 9) books. Show stayed very good up til now as well, looking forward to seeing the final season in a couple weeks! They've also teased that they might pick up the last 3 books somehow or other. pseudanonymous posted:Crazy Space Detective is interesting, Holden is not, so it's easy to think that the protagonist is Crazy Space Detective, it just isn't. No, I'm pretty sure the whole thing was planned out in advance. I never felt like it ran out of steam, either. There was a book or two that felt like a bit of a sidequest but they had a full story they wanted to tell. Honestly, it's not a masterpiece of fiction, and it doesn't even rise to the level of grrm's writing -- there aren't a ton of subtle plots and foreshadowing and a million unseen characters working in the background, or anything. It's just a pretty good sci-fi story told in competent but straightforward prose, set in an interestingly realistic future, with a handful of intriguing sci-fi concepts to be thrown at the human race to explore how we react in times of crisis.
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 00:57
|
|
|
PupsOfWar posted:heh yeah imagine that ha i mean in the sense of not even bothering with a wet fart ending
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 01:07
|
|
|
Phenotype posted:No, I'm pretty sure the whole thing was planned out in advance. I never felt like it ran out of steam, either. There was a book or two that felt like a bit of a sidequest but they had a full story they wanted to tell. Honestly, it's not a masterpiece of fiction, and it doesn't even rise to the level of grrm's writing -- there aren't a ton of subtle plots and foreshadowing and a million unseen characters working in the background, or anything. It's just a pretty good sci-fi story told in competent but straightforward prose, set in an interestingly realistic future, with a handful of intriguing sci-fi concepts to be thrown at the human race to explore how we react in times of crisis. I got bored this weekend and did a deep dive on loving Animorphs of all things. Now that was a series that went some loving places. You could honestly repurpose the story beats as-is and just rewrite it aimed at an adult audience with some added swears, and the content would scale up near-perfectly and hit the zeitgeist probably even better than it did in the 90s. Just not sure where else that is in modern sci-fi. Caste systems and neo-feudal dystopias are too close to the day to day reality to really be enjoyable.
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 02:15
|
|
|
the expanse was not planned out in advance at all. it was a trilogy expanded into six novels and then nine. it was very clearly supposed to end at book 3 and should've ended at book 4.
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 02:44
|
|
|
Horizon Burning posted:the expanse was not planned out in advance at all. it was a trilogy expanded into six novels and then nine. it was very clearly supposed to end at book 3 and should've ended at book 4. Yeah, the first book was great, second was pretty good, third was ok and the fourth was such a loving chore that couldn't start the fifth when it came out and still haven't But hey maybe now that it's finished Ty can go back to ghostwriting ASOIAF
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 10:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 23:35 |
|
|
ALLAN LASSUS posted:Yeah, the first book was great, second was pretty good, third was ok and the fourth was such a loving chore that couldn't start the fifth when it came out and still haven't 
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2021 12:50
|
|
