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mllaneza posted:For a full background I'd read: I assume GG gets a little less pulpy eventually? I recently listened to the audiobook of First and Only and while I enjoyed it I tend to prefer the """more serious""" books.
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You got to get give the series a chance to develop the relationships between the characters. It really comes together.
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Dec 8, 2021 21:14
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Z the IVth posted:Its less bolter porn and more fist-elbow-helmet-knee-landspeeder wing porn. Priad and the arnogaur beat the absolute poo poo out of each other. It's rad.
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Dec 8, 2021 21:16
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Oof. That's way too much pre-reading. Hopefully he'll write some more stand-alone stuff at the same quality. I like Abnett, but I have so little time to read these days that I don't want to trudge through even good stuff if I don't have to. I'll keep pursuing the dark coil stuff; I'm reading Requiem Infernal now and it's so loving good.
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Dec 8, 2021 21:17
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Improbable Lobster posted:I assume GG gets a little less pulpy eventually? I recently listened to the audiobook of First and Only and while I enjoyed it I tend to prefer the """more serious""" books. It absolutely does. The first novels and stories were almost the very first Black Library fiction written for GW, so they are certainly finding their feet regarding tone etc. I think Abnett went pulpy short story vibe for the initial two books (as they were compilations of serialised stories) and then realised he could examine Sci fi versions of actual warfare scenarios (vaguely) like Stalingrad in space. Necropolis is the first truly great GG book, but the next four book arc 'The Saint' is really great too. Focusing in armour combat, trench warfare, covert ops, and various other aspects. After that, The Lost arc focuses much more on the characters, and also examines Chaos in much more detail. Previously they'd been fairly generic villains, but this arc really digs into Abnett's chaos as a civilisation, rather than just traitors. The Armour of Contempt features some of the most memorable passages about the actual act of fighting all out war against a hellish enemy in any 40k fiction. Once you hit Traitor General it's honestly banger after banger.
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Dec 8, 2021 21:19
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Sweet, I love me some Dabnett
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Dec 8, 2021 21:33
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Just start with Necropolis, you can fill in the blanks yourself and the book itself slaps, "What if Stalingrad but with all the knobs turned up" is a killer premise
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Dec 8, 2021 21:47
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drgnvale posted:Oof. That's way too much pre-reading. Hopefully he'll write some more stand-alone stuff at the same quality.
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Dec 8, 2021 22:18
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On the subject of well written battle scenes with PoV switches, I recommend this non-Warhammer book, it's a standalone and works by itself and also as an entry into Joe Abercrombie's books: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9300768-the-heroes
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Brendan Rodgers posted:On the subject of well written battle scenes with PoV switches, I recommend this non-Warhammer book, it's a standalone and works by itself and also as an entry into Joe Abercrombie's books: Abercrombie is good. I still remember a friend of mine saying he was just reading the first First Law book and me and another friend who'd read it asking "Have you met the Bloody Nine yet?" and him being "Wut. He's in it from the start?" and us "You'll know what we mean when you get to that point" Then coming back a week later and being "OK. Now I get what you mean". This post will of course be incomprehensible to anyone not familiar with his work, whilst those who are will be 
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Z the IVth posted:Its less bolter porn and more fist-elbow-helmet-knee-landspeeder wing porn. The landspeeder porn in the Urdesh books is incredible. Someone has got to get that poo poo into a (good) video game at some point. drgnvale posted:Oof. That's way too much pre-reading. Hopefully he'll write some more stand-alone stuff at the same quality. Then just read the Urdesh books, the background stuff is for completionists. Sure , it's all good stuff, but you won't miss anything critical. There's a legitimate Imperial Saint. Damocles Squad are all veteran badasses. Blood Pact fight like a real military, not as hordes of slavering fanatics. There, saved you hours of reading. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 9, 2021 |
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Dec 9, 2021 01:58
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Arquinsiel posted:TBH you're talking yourself out of some great books here. Them's the breaks when you have small children and are too tired to read once you get to bed 
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mllaneza posted:The landspeeder porn in the Urdesh books is incredible. Someone has got to get that poo poo into a (good) video game at some point. I imagined it like an action movie, with super high speed sequences and dramatic slowdowns when the weapons were firing, then everything speeds up again and they're zooming off with great balls of fire erupting behind.
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drgnvale posted:Them's the breaks when you have small children and are too tired to read once you get to bed I can´t believe you didn´t think of the obvious solution of reading them 40k military fiction instead of heretical poo poo like Dr. Seuss or whatever. What kind of goon are you?
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Dec 10, 2021 00:36
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Reading through the Urdesh books now. The space marine combat feels very swingy tbh.
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Dec 10, 2021 00:51
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Telsa Cola posted:Reading through the Urdesh books now. The space marine combat feels very swingy tbh. Erotic? Hard agree
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Dec 10, 2021 04:39
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Ooooh poo poo Kotaku: Space Marine II Announced, Ten Years After The Original. https://kotaku.com/space-marine-ii-announced-ten-years-after-the-original-1848190699
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Dec 10, 2021 04:47
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No Mark Strong though. 😰
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgxVQRTXtz0 Trailer.
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Dec 10, 2021 05:25
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Biplane posted:Erotic? Hard agree Eh I read both today. Combat scenes swing between really nailing the whole 3 meter tall several hundred pound super soldier aspect of them the running past the truck scene, the fight between Priad and the Arnogaur. To pretty lame [spoiler]like when they are getting suppressed by guys with .45 caliber weapons. Also read silent hunter which hilariously can be summed up as "Never come near my latent psyker son again"
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Is this what the Astartes guy has been up to? E: I somehow thought this was the sequel to the ultramarine movie Abnett wrote and found it weird that people were asking for a sequel. But now that I understand that it is the game, it all makes sense Miguel Prado fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Dec 10, 2021 07:09
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D-Pad posted:Ooooh poo poo Is that Captain Titus again or I am misremembering his face? If so, get hosed Leandros.
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Dec 10, 2021 12:10
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Why wasn’t the thunderhawk shooting? Time to lobotomise another heretic, this weapons servitor is hosed
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Dec 10, 2021 12:20
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Angry Lobster posted:Is that Captain Titus again or I am misremembering his face? If so, get hosed Leandros. It looks like him, but he’s at least been demoted to Lieutenant. Maybe he was the fill-in captain of 2nd company while Sicarius was off leading the Honour Company against the 13th Black Crusade and got demoted back to the ranks when he came back.
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The developers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_Interactive They made their own 3d engine and made the Halo remasters with it, then they made World War Z and a Witcher 3 port for the Switch. So it looks like they've got the technical chops but no design / art / music / writing credentials to speak of. However, they've been on an acquisition rampage over the last year. They bought, among other minor studios, the Metro guys, half of the Ghostrunner devs, and whatever's left of 3D Realms. So I'm not optimistic, but it doesn't seem hopeless to me. If I were to predict its chances, I'd say 25% crap, 40% mediocre, 30% good, 5% excellent.
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lenoon posted:Why wasn’t the thunderhawk shooting? Time to lobotomise another heretic, this weapons servitor is hosed Why bother wasting valuable heavy bolter rounds on a group of Hormagaunts when you can just throw three marines at them? Report to the chaplain for reeducation and chastisment. 
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...2+q%26a,+Dec+10 Yoo some gameplay in this
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Miguel Prado posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com...2+q%26a,+Dec+10 Looks pretty good. The planet looks very similar to the first one's forge world, all sandstone-looking Ministorum buildings. I hope we get more varied environments, 2011 was at the tail end of the Call of Duty / Gears of War "brown and grey" muted palette trend, but it's been a while and fashions have changed.
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Yvonmukluk posted:It looks like him, but he’s at least been demoted to Lieutenant. He was dragged off by the inquisition at the end of 1 so maybe Lieutenant was the only spot open after he got back and primaris'd.
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Improbable Lobster posted:He was dragged off by the inquisition at the end of 1 so maybe Lieutenant was the only spot open after he got back and primaris'd. Probably right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5XzBKf4sI&t=316s Apparently Titus wears the chainsaw attached to the arm with chains, like the Black Templars and has some inquisitorial symbols, so maybe he's back to the chapter on penance duty.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:08
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Maybe he served in the Deathwatch for a bit
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Maybe he served in the Deathwatch for a bit He'd maintain deathwatch markings on a shoulder pad if he did. Its pretty common and would be very weird to make him an exception since its an obvious call out.
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I cant help but notice they took the cowards way out and made tyranids the enemy. Let me fight blood pact or something you fuckers
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Telsa Cola posted:He'd maintain deathwatch markings on a shoulder pad if he did. Its pretty common and would be very weird to make him an exception since its an obvious call out. Maybe he got demoted for a uniform violation. As a Ultramarine fan, that seems onbrand.
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Biplane posted:I cant help but notice they took the cowards way out and made tyranids the enemy. Let me fight blood pact or something you fuckers The traitor guardsmen in Space Marine 1 were the worst part of that game specifically because they would often spawn on ledges you can't reach and shoot you with rocket launchers.
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Kaal posted:Maybe he got demoted for a uniform violation. As a Ultramarine fan, that seems onbrand. Ultramarines get big hard ons for deathwatch so not likely.
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Telsa Cola posted:Eh I read both today.
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Arquinsiel posted:The answer to that second bit is the editor at GW doesn't understand gun calibre. Just assume that the ".X" actually means "Xmm" and it generally works. They were using a local production autogun rifle, so .45 actually is in the upper end of whats reasonable for someone to use for a hand held assault rifle. In comparison the heavy stubber was .60 cal which is also somewhat reasonable.
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Even astartes can't just laugh off heavy auto fire forever. Concentrated fire will bring them down, which is why they're always moving so fast and aggressively.
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Telsa Cola posted:They were using a local production autogun rifle, so .45 actually is in the upper end of whats reasonable for someone to use for a hand held assault rifle. In comparison the heavy stubber was .60 cal which is also somewhat reasonable.
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