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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
They mean the Patreon chapter, which is about Ryoka in Ailendamus... which I'm also enjoying. Ryoka plays off well against immortals, although I can understand how some people think that schtick is getting old.

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Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




MonikaTSarn posted:

How can you say that ? It's not like its a sideplot, Lyonette has been one of the main characters for a while. The search for Mrsha and like half of the main plotline. And we're getting pay off for all the new characters introduced in Olesia, in the 'Fellowship of Mrsha' and at the meeting of tribes. Everybody finally coming together, and meeting up - for a big battle, or maybe a picknick.

That one was great, I'm talking about the next chapter that's already up for patreon subs. 8.56

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Ryoka has to run out of immortals eventually.

Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!
I think beware of Chicken just missed the Wednesday update. The late updates have also been weird. The author is acting like they need to write the thing and it's not just a button they have to press, but at the same time they're advertising two posts ahead on the Patreon.

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013
They're probably releasing when they finish writing the N+2 chapter to keep the backlog steady.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Mr. Prokosch posted:

I think beware of Chicken just missed the Wednesday update. The late updates have also been weird. The author is acting like they need to write the thing and it's not just a button they have to press, but at the same time they're advertising two posts ahead on the Patreon.

He posted in a forum thread it'll be up a day later, because he didn't finish it in time.

As for 'acting weird', if you're trying to get people to pay for exclusive chapters, you can't just dip into them in a situation like this and risk pissing off the people who are giving you money. If it's between them and the free readers, it's obviously going to be patrons-first.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

I just think the Beware of Chicken writer has been struggling to write recently. They should probably take some time off to recharge.

Froggycleric
May 11, 2013

Don't sully his love with imagined reasons.
Yep, he’s been having issues lately, believe he said he was taking a two week break soon.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
TUTBAD 54:

quote:

“See, this is why you’re not funny,” said Mizuki. “Too much thinking.”

“I’ve seen you laugh at my jokes,” said Alfric.

“I take pity on the less fortunate,” said Mizuki.

“Well, that explains your love life,” said Alfric.
drat, Alfric!

Larry Parrish posted:

the difference is ar'kendrythist is good and what little math there is rapidly disappears and thank god for that. ar'kendrythist is a story that happens to have a quasi-rpg screen be part of the plot, not a litrpg story. it's a small but important distinction.
This is good to hear since I eventually dropped Delve for the crime of boringness.

nightchild12
Jan 8, 2005
hi i'm sexy

I've been looking through the Royal Road Writeathon winners (https://www.royalroad.com/blog/45/writathon-winners) and found a couple of standouts:

War Queen - First Contact Sci-Fi from the Point of View of the Alien Bug Monsters. Strange creatures attack Skthveraachk-colony, behaving oddly and doing impossible things, and the Queen is wounded in the battle. She wakes up abducted and attempts to establish communication and to ensure the survival of her species.
The Queen's Guard - Black Powder Fantasy (18th century-ish) Adventure. A kingdom is invaded suddenly by the use of strange magics, and a soldier is given the duty to escort his prince to safety.

Both of these are, in my opinion, at or near publication-quality. At the very least, I've read professionally published works that were not written as well.

I'm also really liking Tori Transmigrated, a "otome game villainess" serial, but while I find it highly entertaining it's very "serial fictiony" and I don't think as high quality as the above two.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Cicero posted:

TUTBAD 54:

drat, Alfric!


I laughed out loud when I read that part

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Outcast Patreon: The current situation resolved partially how I expected (I assumed Ragnavi would end up fighting the Blight, since that was the only plausible way to avoid/delay her other than the less interesting "they just succeed in teleporting in time").

I wasn't expecting her to get so hosed up that she now has less HP than Rob, though. This creates an interesting situation where Rob is likely to end up being the only person who can cure the Dragon Queen.

asur
Dec 28, 2012

Megazver posted:

He posted in a forum thread it'll be up a day later, because he didn't finish it in time.

As for 'acting weird', if you're trying to get people to pay for exclusive chapters, you can't just dip into them in a situation like this and risk pissing off the people who are giving you money. If it's between them and the free readers, it's obviously going to be patrons-first.

I guess it depends on how you advertise it, but authors do use both models and I doubt most patrons actually care about the difference.

The two models being always X chapters ahead and a time delay. From an author perspective I wonder if the always X chapters ahead is slightly better as people may subscribe if you break at the end of a book because the free readers get a cliffhanger.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Outcast: Meyneth is good at solving problems.

I just read this and the whole ending portion with Meyneth made me laugh irl

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Ytlaya posted:

Outcast Patreon: The current situation resolved partially how I expected (I assumed Ragnavi would end up fighting the Blight, since that was the only plausible way to avoid/delay her other than the less interesting "they just succeed in teleporting in time").

I wasn't expecting her to get so hosed up that she now has less HP than Rob, though. This creates an interesting situation where Rob is likely to end up being the only person who can cure the Dragon Queen.


she's almost certainly going to massacre her capitol's healers when they tell her corruption is incurable. Also im pretty sure ragnavi would literally rather die than be cured by rob.

additionally, it turns out the humans didn't assassinate her family, they just got incidentally killed in a trap gone wrong. i honestly wonder if ragnavi herself acknowledges that or the sheer fury she feels at their deaths makes her beyond reason

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Dec 10, 2021

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Cicero posted:

TUTBAD 54:

drat, Alfric!

Mizuki teaching Alfric how to make jokes has been a thing in a few chapters. That one was particularly nice, I admit.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Only Villains Do That 2.29

quote:

“Fffffuuuuucking WEEEEEEEEBS!”
lol

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

A big flaming stink posted:

she's almost certainly going to massacre her capitol's healers when they tell her corruption is incurable. Also im pretty sure ragnavi would literally rather die than be cured by rob.

additionally, it turns out the humans didn't assassinate her family, they just got incidentally killed in a trap gone wrong. i honestly wonder if ragnavi herself acknowledges that or the sheer fury she feels at their deaths makes her beyond reason


Yeah this (the bolded) also definitely seems the case to me and I can't imagine how that would come about, but it still might end up leading to something interesting (since I can't imagine that she's just out of the picture after this, but I don't think there's any way for her to be cured other than Rob).

I'm pretty sure she's beyond reason. I doubt she cares about the circumstances in which her family died, since, as far as I can tell, she was already okay with genociding the humans beforehand (she just got a lot more enthusiastic about it afterwards).

Unrelated, but I was thinking that Orn'tol's unique ability would actually be extremely good against other humanoid enemies. Seems like it'd render someone almost helpless unless they have such a huge dexterity advantage that it offsets the slowing effect.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
TWI Patreon lol so that's where that guy's been. Wandering the desert is certainly... on brand.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
“I’m capricious and neither pay nor collect debts!”

Faldoncow
Jun 29, 2007
Munchin' on some steak

nightchild12 posted:

I've been looking through the Royal Road Writeathon winners (https://www.royalroad.com/blog/45/writathon-winners) and found a couple of standouts:

War Queen - First Contact Sci-Fi from the Point of View of the Alien Bug Monsters. Strange creatures attack Skthveraachk-colony, behaving oddly and doing impossible things, and the Queen is wounded in the battle. She wakes up abducted and attempts to establish communication and to ensure the survival of her species.


I enjoyed this, thanks for the recommendation. Good quality writing and an interesting PoV and story.

Also been reading Tori Transmigrated, and enjoying it.

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

Argue posted:

TWI Patreon lol so that's where that guy's been. Wandering the desert is certainly... on brand.

4 years and 6 volumes worth of setup

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



I don't know who that guy is in twi patreon

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

tithin posted:

I don't know who that guy is in twi patreon

He showed up in the Earther chat at the start of volume 2.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
The economics of the world in Arkendrithyst seem odd. The MC is able to find very good paying work really easily even as a newbie. One gold is the cost of decent hotel room, and he’s able to make like twenty gold in a single day helping an enchanter, this as a beginner mage who’s been in the world for, like, a few weeks tops? And that wasn’t even the only gig he did that day, so he made 20x the cost of a good hotel room in one day of part-time work. That’s like the equivalent of making $1600/day IRL as a temp.

Maybe the world is supposed to be one of abundance where getting financially comfortable is super easy?

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007

Cicero posted:

The economics of the world in Arkendrithyst seem odd. The MC is able to find very good paying work really easily even as a newbie. One gold is the cost of decent hotel room, and he’s able to make like twenty gold in a single day helping an enchanter, this as a beginner mage who’s been in the world for, like, a few weeks tops? And that wasn’t even the only gig he did that day, so he made 20x the cost of a good hotel room in one day of part-time work. That’s like the equivalent of making $1600/day IRL as a temp.

Maybe the world is supposed to be one of abundance where getting financially comfortable is super easy?

It varies, I think Spur could be described like wealthy Dubai except it's next to Arkham Asylum where the inmates randomly send people out to commit massacres and drop good loot at the same time.
Money is plentiful, as are ways to die horribly.

The further I got into this series the more of a death world this place seems to be.

Ps: series feels slow at times till a big event then it really, really picks up. I'm happy I stuck it through.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Cicero posted:

The economics of the world in Arkendrithyst seem odd. The MC is able to find very good paying work really easily even as a newbie. One gold is the cost of decent hotel room, and he’s able to make like twenty gold in a single day helping an enchanter, this as a beginner mage who’s been in the world for, like, a few weeks tops? And that wasn’t even the only gig he did that day, so he made 20x the cost of a good hotel room in one day of part-time work. That’s like the equivalent of making $1600/day IRL as a temp.

Maybe the world is supposed to be one of abundance where getting financially comfortable is super easy?

at least at the start, specializing in Cleanse is very unglamorous work and has next to no applicability to your proficiency as a warrior, but it is also critically vital to maintain the drinking supply of the town.

kind of like IRL sewage work, but actually given its proper value

e: also yeah, Spur is a ridiculously dangerous place due to its proximity to arkendrithyst so it would be very unusual for a sanitation specialist to settle down there when they can go to a bunch of other places much less likely to kill them. i'd say its analogous to a gold rush town in terms of how warped the local economy can get

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Dec 13, 2021

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cicero posted:

The economics of the world in Arkendrithyst seem odd. The MC is able to find very good paying work really easily even as a newbie. One gold is the cost of decent hotel room, and he’s able to make like twenty gold in a single day helping an enchanter, this as a beginner mage who’s been in the world for, like, a few weeks tops? And that wasn’t even the only gig he did that day, so he made 20x the cost of a good hotel room in one day of part-time work. That’s like the equivalent of making $1600/day IRL as a temp.

Maybe the world is supposed to be one of abundance where getting financially comfortable is super easy?

he's the equivalent of an Army civilian contractor emptying porta potties, if the FOB he was on was also next door to magical Nazi Germany, and also in an insanely inhospitable desert. also, most people are bad at magic. he's making a decent wage, but the real money requires actual skill with magic, which most people never learn. mostly because Script-standard magic is good enough for government work, and even weak monsters are literally made of money.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
also, yes, skilled mages have a post scarcity existence. your average Archmage can make millions killing legions of monsters remotely, has access to [Duplicate] which literally creates matter from mana, can use [Grow] well which might as well be [Duplicate] but for biological materials.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

I thought Duplicate was extremely restricted, I don't even think your average Archmage gets that spell.
Also agreed with earlier posters, Spur is not a normal place in the world at all.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Peachfart posted:

I thought Duplicate was extremely restricted, I don't even think your average Archmage gets that spell.
Also agreed with earlier posters, Spur is not a normal place in the world at all.

people kidnap Duplicate mages to make them into money printers basically, so it's kept artificially hard to get and the people who get help to acquire it are kept secret. but it's implied that a lot of strong mages have it, and are just very circumspect.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
The world of Arkendrithyst is very weird, and the reasons for things aren't always immediately clear. I would say it's pretty thoroughly thought through.

Duplicate is insanely restricted, yeah. But basic magic is enough to create prosperity. It's just the threat of monsters really messes up the economic situations. The real core of any region's economics is how they deal with the ecological clusterfuck that is that world of monsters.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
it honestly might be one of my favorite books ever. there's rough spots, especially in book 1, but never does it feel like it wasn't thought out. even when it does seem like it, it turns out Erick is just being a dumbass or had bad information. the world remains consistent, but the people are messy.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

My only Patreon web serials are still TWI and Ar'Kendrithyst, so you can see my favorites. Though I have been thinking about adding in the Outcast series because it is just that consistently good.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Alas, poor Dragoneye Bilbo. That trick works better if you're free.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Cicero posted:

The economics of the world in Arkendrithyst seem odd. The MC is able to find very good paying work really easily even as a newbie. One gold is the cost of decent hotel room, and he’s able to make like twenty gold in a single day helping an enchanter, this as a beginner mage who’s been in the world for, like, a few weeks tops? And that wasn’t even the only gig he did that day, so he made 20x the cost of a good hotel room in one day of part-time work. That’s like the equivalent of making $1600/day IRL as a temp.

Maybe the world is supposed to be one of abundance where getting financially comfortable is super easy?

It's not clear yet, but that random sewer mage eventually turns out to be one of three or four most important people in town. He's part of the town government, due largely to being the sewer mage. So yeah, it's an odd world in a lot of ways. There's also an ongoing civil war/murder festival that everyone agrees is very dumb, but also refuse to, you know, stop.

Skills are also limited in a weird way. Putting enough skills and stats into magic to be a sewer mage is fairly unusual. If I remember right, the specific stat spread needed to be a sewer mage is also unusual because it makes you very easy to kill.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LLSix posted:

It's not clear yet, but that random sewer mage eventually turns out to be one of three or four most important people in town. He's part of the town government, due largely to being the sewer mage. So yeah, it's an odd world in a lot of ways. There's also an ongoing civil war/murder festival that everyone agrees is very dumb, but also refuse to, you know, stop.

Skills are also limited in a weird way. Putting enough skills and stats into magic to be a sewer mage is fairly unusual. If I remember right, the specific stat spread needed to be a sewer mage is also unusual because it makes you very easy to kill.

people like taking willpower over focus because a high mana pool let's you cast extremely powerful, poorly made spells, because a poorly made spell tends to be really expensive but might still be stronger than the sum of its parts. a focus mage has a smaller mana pool, but far more regeneration. so while a far less popular build, it's better in the long run because it forces you to be good at magic to squeeze the best out of your available mana. this is kind of a pointless difference at really high levels, but levels are exponentially harder to get, so it's an uncommon thing. anyone that high of a level is a strategic weapon or one man world power anyway.

as far as being easy to kill: personal wards are only cast once, and can't be reinforced, so it's bases off your total mana pool. also most regular people aren't pure mages so they get balanced stats or focus on Health stats.

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007
It's hard to talk about Ark's magic system without hitting spoiler territory very quickly.

This is one of those Sanderson type stories where things make a lot more sense as you get more information on what's going on.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kalas posted:

It's hard to talk about Ark's magic system without hitting spoiler territory very quickly.

This is one of those Sanderson type stories where things make a lot more sense as you get more information on what's going on.

yeah. i was pretty careful to only include stuff that gets mentioned in book 1, but, well, magic might as well be cultivation in a xianxia novel: there's always more to learn, and the common man doesn't know jack poo poo about how it really works, even most elite people don't really know. so there's only so much you can say before it's a spoiler lol.

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Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
It's kind of a delight to have that gradual reveal of complicated, interconnected issues. Everything with polymorph and Hunters. The first time it became an issue, it felt very abrupt. But the more it's touched, the more the intricacies are revealed.

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