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lol these chapters The Four Warriors of Light Saved the World, but They Don’t Deserve Our Thanks and The Spiky-Haired Mercenary vs. the French Narrative Theorist
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I’ve played all of the numbered final fantasies but never played tactics. What is the best way to play it?
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Dec 22, 2021 14:42
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In the hyperbolic time chamber so you don't waste any more of your life on its interminable battles than strictly neccessary
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Dec 22, 2021 14:45
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Emulate the psp version, or the original version if you really care about having a more punchy but sometimes wildly incorrect translation
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Dec 22, 2021 14:46
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If you want the authentic experience of playing it back in 97, only use one save slot even though it has like 20 or more.
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Dec 22, 2021 14:48
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Gologle posted:If you want the authentic experience of playing it back in 97, only use one save slot even though it has like 20 or more. Ah yes, getting stuck at the Wiegraf battle with no way to leave and restarting the game from the beginning, the authentic FFT experience.
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Dec 22, 2021 14:52
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gay_crimes posted:I’ve played all of the numbered final fantasies but never played tactics. What is the best way to play it? get to the halfway point then restart the game because ramza is too weak for the one on one boss lmao
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Dec 22, 2021 15:26
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ah yes, getting stuck at the Wiegraf battle with no way to leave and restarting the game from the beginning, the authentic FFT experience. 16-bit Butt-Head posted:get to the halfway point then restart the game because ramza is too weak for the one on one boss lmao Best advice, don't be bad at games liked these two.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:28
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I was thinking best version and/or platform but this is all good too, thank you
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Dec 22, 2021 15:31
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Gaius Marius posted:Best advice, don't be bad at games liked these two. im good at games... gay_crimes posted:I was thinking best version and/or platform but this is all good too, thank you imo it depends. the PS1 version has some exploitable glitches and a bad but charming translation. the PSP version fixes most of the bugs and has a better translation but is missing some of its charm because of it imo.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:37
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Gaius Marius posted:Best advice, don't be bad at games liked these two. I was 11 when FFT came out, of course I was bad at games.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:39
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NikkolasKing posted:I think this is the much bigger problem with X-2. It just never once answers "what happens to people who die?" X firmly establishes they need to be Sent but there are no more Summoners in X-2 and we are never even given a single offhand line of dialogue about how there are now "professional Senders" to deal with this. It's actually specifically people who die sudden or violent deaths and have unfinished business that need to he Sent. With Spira no longer having a living natural disaster presumably a lot less people will need to be Sent.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:40
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FFT is pretty good on mobile. Some people in this thread really fuckin' hate the touch controls though. I think they work really well. As long as you're a normal person with clean hands and not a sausage fingered cheeto tip. It's the War of the Lions translation, which is straight up better than the original. You miss out on about ten absolutely killer bad translation lines but gain a plot that's absolutely understandable with proper descriptions of abilities and things like that. It's one of my favorite FF's so I'm biased. It came out when I was fifteen and I agree with the posts upthread; don't be like us, use multiple saves.
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Yeah FFT on the iPad is pretty good. There’s a few annoyances (since it’s an overhead view at an angle sometimes you have to rotate things around to figure out what square you’re tapping on) but I found the touch controls work well I also got past the weirgraf/boss battle by running around the room boosting Ramza’s speed and battle Power and then one shotting the boss(s) with 5 turns in a row or whatever
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Dec 22, 2021 16:21
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I only play Tactics on a vintage PS1 so I can use my DexDrive to edit saves and put the Lucavi demons in my party
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Tall Tale Teller posted:You miss out on about ten absolutely killer bad translation lines but gain a plot that's absolutely understandable with proper descriptions of abilities and things like that.
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Dec 22, 2021 17:07
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"Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God" is still the best.
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Dec 22, 2021 17:12
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Dr Pepper posted:It's actually specifically people who die sudden or violent deaths and have unfinished business that need to he Sent. With Spira no longer having a living natural disaster presumably a lot less people will need to be Sent. When discussing why his mom is on the Farplane, Tidus is confused why since nobody Sent her and Yuna says it's only because "she accepted death while still alive." I don't think it's just violent or sudden deaths that cause this. Also, evidently, there are still a ton of Fiends in FFX-2 so people arE still dying and needing to be Sent.
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Dec 22, 2021 17:20
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 This is what you give up by not playing the original.
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NikkolasKing posted:When discussing why his mom is on the Farplane, Tidus is confused why since nobody Sent her and Yuna says it's only because "she accepted death while still alive." I don't think it's just violent or sudden deaths that cause this. That... literally supports what they're saying though? Tidus' mom died peacefully and ended up in the Farplane without needing to be Sent.
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Dec 22, 2021 18:09
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Party Boat posted:Jecht as Sin planned that he would take Auron and Tidus to Spira (we know this because Auron speaks to Jecht right before they're sucked up into Sin). According to the Ultimania Sin's "wreck everything" instinct kicked in when it found itself near a city, which is a little weird as it's supposed to protect Zanarkand. Maybe it got confused by Jecht exerting his control? It destroyed the original Zanarkand as well. I believe the reason is simple Yevon lost control of Sin right after creating it, and so it went along with its original directive destroying cities.
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Cattail Prophet posted:That... literally supports what they're saying though? Tidus' mom died peacefully and ended up in the Farplane without needing to be Sent. Two things: 1. Tidus' mom "accepted death" because she hated living without Jecht. This was not some saintly "I am ready to go" thing, it was more like depressive Fantasy suicide, like Padme just dying because her heart was broken by Anakin. 2. And so I took Tidus' and Yuna's exchange to mean that everybody needs the Sending unless they have very specific circumstances like "I'm ready to die." NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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Dec 22, 2021 18:48
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I got a good feeling! The people of Ivalice had l i t t l e m o n e y. Blame yourself or god.Fister Roboto posted:
There, you have heard the good lines from the original translation and can now play the one that doesn't mistranslate 'breath' as 'bracelet'.
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Dec 22, 2021 19:07
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Fister Roboto posted:
I played this game at age 11-12 and just nodded along. I look back at this incomprehensible poo poo and wonder why these things didn’t stick out more.
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Dec 22, 2021 19:22
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Maybe we figured we were stupid and didn’t understand how good it was.
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Fister Roboto posted:
https://youtube.com/shorts/5XVeI2Dfr9o?feature=share
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Oof, I sure do miss auto saves after FF7 closed because an error ocurred and I'm all the way back at Wutai after having gotten to the Temple of the Ancients.Hellioning posted:I got a good feeling! The people of Ivalice had l i t t l e m o n e y. Blame yourself or god. You forgot Surrender or die in obscurity! I guess we must fight. Eaaagggghh!! There, now that's all the good lines from the original translation.
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Dec 22, 2021 20:26
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Yeah the PSP version is 100% superior... or would be if it didn't have really lovely slowdown and bad fps in battle. Luckily, that's what fan-patches for emulated versions is for! Last time I played, I used this Quality of Life patch and quite enjoyed it. Rythian fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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Dec 22, 2021 21:10
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they just put up free seraphic earrings dlc on intergrade was this a preoder bonus or something
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Twelve by Pies posted:Oof, I sure do miss auto saves after FF7 closed because an error ocurred and I'm all the way back at Wutai after having gotten to the Temple of the Ancients. Animals have no god!
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Hellioning posted:I got a good feeling! The people of Ivalice had l i t t l e m o n e y. Blame yourself or god. Not gonna lie I do sometimes miss some of the cool sounding nonsense that came out of bad translations like Fire Bracelet and Merton and Climhazzard
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Y-Burn
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The only thing I missed from vanilla FFT is the random spell and ability shouts. I always liked hearing my monk say something before aurablasting some poor mook across the map. Also the shout for the Cyclops summon calls him "Clops". 10/10
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Dec 22, 2021 22:24
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Tall Tale Teller posted:The only thing I missed from vanilla FFT is the random spell and ability shouts. Aw they took those out? They were awesome. I own the PSP version but haven’t played it. Some day… Edit: the original had slowdown when you cast summons or spells with big effects, you could hear the disc drive in the PSX groan whenever you cast them.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Edit: the original had slowdown when you cast summons or spells with big effects, you could hear the disc drive in the PSX groan whenever you cast them.
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Dec 22, 2021 22:53
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Game too strong for the PSP battery.
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At least FF14 has a nod to the extended spell quotes in the Ivalice raids, Orbonne in particular. They're even voice acted. Non-exhaustive examples: I call out to the skies and tremble as the brilliance of a thousand bolts blinds mine enemies and tears their flesh asunder. Misfortune hangs heavy on a head once held high. Such is poor cover for when the heavens fall. Even the strongest of shields cannot defend the weakest of wills. A moment's hesitation beckons a lifetime of pain! Seven shadows cast, seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lies death, and death alone.
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pretty soft girl posted:Not gonna lie I do sometimes miss some of the cool sounding nonsense that came out of bad translations like Fire Bracelet and Merton and Climhazzard Crimehazard
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Gologle posted:If you want the authentic experience of playing it back in 97, only use one save slot even though it has like 20 or more. It cannot be stated strongly enough that whenever you play FFT you should use at least 3 save slots. I always use 5. I'm not joking.
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I’m currently playing The Lion War mod on my N2DSXL. It’s a mod of the original psx version that adds some content from the War of the Lions version (psp and mobile) but retains the original translation. I actually like both translations for different reasons, nostalgia for the original and it’s iconic lines, and the rewrite is more dramatic for better or worse. Here’s a link to The Lion War https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=12767.0 -Adds unique events from WotL and changed their translation to match the original versions style -Adds a few new events from the mod scene but there aren’t too many and they don’t spoil the feel of the original game -the now unplayable Rendevous multiplayer mission content from WotL is added and changed to single player missions, as well as a handful of custom missions by the modders. The treasure wheel from completing these missions was added as well. -4/5 of the sound novels that were never translated to English officially have been translated and added as prizes from the prepositions, giving a cool way to get lore never seen in the original releases. For me, one of the biggest reasons to play this version is that the sound quality is much better on the original psx version vs the WotL version. And the random battle shouts the characters would do when using abilities sometimes are of course present since it’s the original psx version. If you do play war of the lions, make sure you get the mod that fixes the battle animation slowdown as it makes the already long battles unbearable. Switched.on fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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