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wouldn't he just glamour himself like the emperor and appear as a chill normal dude edit: how you doing fellow normies, I've just been backpacking around the obscuras sector for 10,000 years can I interest you in worshiping the emperor
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:lorgar coming back would be real awkward considering he's a daemon prince and all If saints are the imperial version of demon princes he could turn into a saint or something, which would be fitting.
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Dec 28, 2021 04:56
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Inspector_666 posted:30k Lorgar was kind of chill as far as Primarchs go, though, isn't he? I mean, he's one of the few who didn't let their home world stay a horrible feral/death world. yeah i kinda like lorgar. he is just a dude with a really lovely dads who is desperate for his faith in something bigger to be validated so he takes his overly loyal kids and his weird dickhead step dads and finds hell and since its real and gods totally wouldnt lie he bends the knee. basically lorgar in a nutshell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0buC_H0CQ
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Dec 28, 2021 05:22
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:lorgar coming back would be real awkward considering he's a daemon prince and all "The Emperor granted Blessed Sanguinius wings, He has granted Blessed Lorgar an Angelic countenance. Who are you to question Him?" It's still really stupid and there's zero reason to redeem a Daemon Primarch when they've all spent the last 10k years being just The Worst. Except Alpharius, who has spent the last 10k years doing absolutely nothing of note; ffs the Sons of the Hydra may as well have never existed for how much they matter to the metaplot.
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Dec 28, 2021 05:27
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Also I'm reading Alpharius and if I had spent money on it I would be mad about how dumb it is.
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Dec 28, 2021 05:30
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I still want a dual release of Daemon Primarch Fulgrim and Loyalist Painting Fulgrim and have them both running around trying to kill each other.
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Dec 28, 2021 07:10
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PupsOfWar posted:Tired: is Die Hard a Christmas movie? The Carrion Throne is a Christmas book. Lukas the Trickster is also a Christmas book. MariusLecter posted:I remember reading that the haemonculus wanted to fight their way into the throne room to get "just a sliver" of the emperor's delicious soul (10k years of dry aged ultimate suffering) before the Inquisition, Custodes and other forces killed them.
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Dec 28, 2021 07:44
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I do not understand any desire to redeem back a Demon Primarch, but especially Lorgar, whose entire Legion including him have been basic bitch dickheads in every content they’ve ever been in, ever. Erebus is only notable in that he managed to spread the dickheadery to everyone else, otherwise he’s entirely on brand.
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Dec 28, 2021 08:55
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Relevant Tangent posted:Also I'm reading Alpharius and if I had spent money on it I would be mad about how dumb it is. What’s dumb about it?
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Dec 28, 2021 09:23
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IshmaelZarkov posted:I still want a dual release of Daemon Primarch Fulgrim and Loyalist Painting Fulgrim and have them both running around trying to kill each other. gently caress yes, I didn't know how much I wanted this. They've been laying groundwork for this for a while, but daemon primarch Fulgrim killing Lucius the Eternal could accomplish it without all the clone bodies or the soul painting. Just have some junk about how the primarch's soul overwhelming Lucius's transformation.
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Dec 28, 2021 10:01
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Atrocious Joe posted:IGN recently asked Cavill what Warhammer character he wants to play, and he avoided giving a straight answer. If they're smart they have him engaged as both executive producer and lead on whatever project they end up doing. I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the discussion is right now; what story do they blow their load on. Having Cavill on as lead and producer basically gives them an A-lister for free starring in the project. If it bombs they aren't out his salary and if it makes money both parties will make away like bandits.
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Dec 28, 2021 10:32
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Miguel Prado posted:What’s dumb about it? I liked the fight with the Slaugh. Alpharius does a piss poor job of what he thinks is his role especially during the Heresy. Too easily seduced by Horus's nonsense. It wasn't awful but considering how integral to the setting the Primarchs are setting the bar higher than mediocre seems fair.
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Dec 28, 2021 16:05
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So you're saying Alpharius comes across as a dupe whose bad at his job? Just. As. Planned. 
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Dec 28, 2021 18:11
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Relevant Tangent posted:"The Emperor granted Blessed Sanguinius wings, He has granted Blessed Lorgar an Angelic countenance. Who are you to question Him?" It's legitimately hilarious, in a good way, to me that all the alpha legion "just as planned" poo poo amounts to them loving around and accomplishing nothing of note for ages
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Dec 28, 2021 18:23
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Deptfordx posted:So you're saying Alpharius comes across as a dupe whose bad at his job? That guy's tombstone has "Just as planned" inscribed deeply upon it.
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Dec 28, 2021 18:28
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Considering that’s the crux of the Alpha Legion hubris storyline, seems fine? Their core conceit is they think they’re the puppet master but in the grand scheme they’re just more pawns of the Chaos Gods. Delusion of the self is the worst kind.
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Dec 28, 2021 20:55
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Shockeh posted:Considering that’s the crux of the Alpha Legion hubris storyline, seems fine? Their core conceit is they think they’re the puppet master but in the grand scheme they’re just more pawns of the Chaos Gods. Delusion of the self is the worst kind. It's great! It works perfectly for their themes IMO
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Dec 28, 2021 21:25
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Kaal posted:That guy's tombstone has "Just as planned" inscribed deeply upon it. Well, one of his tombstones.
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Dec 28, 2021 21:35
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Im almost out of black library books that I want to read and I don’t like it. Horusian wars good?
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Dec 28, 2021 23:02
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Miguel Prado posted:Im almost out of black library books that I want to read and I don’t like it. Yes, I like it a lot.
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Dec 28, 2021 23:26
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D-Pad posted:Yes, I like it a lot. seconded
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Dec 29, 2021 01:34
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I'm absolutely loving The Unremembered Empire; it feels like a real climax point of the series, as opposed to a lot of the books that just feel like they're spinning their wheels. However, not a single book in this drat series has made me care about John Grammaticus or any of the perpetuals. Every scene with John just grinds my interest to a halt.
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Dec 30, 2021 03:35
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:I'm absolutely loving The Unremembered Empire; it feels like a real climax point of the series, as opposed to a lot of the books that just feel like they're spinning their wheels. Nah, there's at least one perpetual I'm pretty sure you care about and look forward to scenes with them in it.
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Dec 30, 2021 03:39
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:I'm absolutely loving The Unremembered Empire; it feels like a real climax point of the series, as opposed to a lot of the books that just feel like they're spinning their wheels. It’s comic book garbage iyam. It really does not belong
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Dec 30, 2021 03:45
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Telsa Cola posted:Nah, there's at least one perpetual I'm pretty sure you care about and look forward to scenes with them in it. Huh, obviously the Emperor is a perpetual, but there's another character I didn't realize until I googled it just now. That sort of explains another plot point of Unremembered Empire.
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Dec 30, 2021 04:08
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How long is the Siege of Terra chronologically?
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Dec 30, 2021 23:16
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FPyat posted:How long is the Siege of Terra chronologically? About 5 minutes
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Dec 30, 2021 23:20
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notaspy posted:About 5 minutes It's a pretty insane time frame from the first warp translations sent in by Perturabo to get obliterated by Sol system defenses meat grinder to create a foothold and the palace being under siege with the Emperor contemplating absolute defeat until Horus let's down the Vengeful Spirits shields. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693916479120212009/926250549236625458/The_Emperor.mp4
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Dec 31, 2021 00:09
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Lorgar seems the least likely Traitor Primarch to be redeemed. Guy went whole hog on Chaos worship harder then any Primarch.
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Dec 31, 2021 00:12
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Just fighting their way into Earth orbit takes the traitors weeks, and that's with a custom one-shot warp gate built into a comet letting them outflank the loyal fleet. They have to pull out all the stops because this is the most heavily fortified system in the Galaxy that has had months to prepare.
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Dec 31, 2021 01:18
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Grammaticus worked in Legion and nowhere else. Oll works as part of the Ollanius Pius legend but not really in conjunction with John. The whole Perpetual concept just seems needless, but I don’t hate it as much as some people do.
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Dec 31, 2021 03:32
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I understand why everybody hates it but I actually really like the perpetual plot.
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Dec 31, 2021 05:00
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MonsterEnvy posted:Lorgar seems the least likely Traitor Primarch to be redeemed. Guy went whole hog on Chaos worship harder then any Primarch. He did, but he went whole hog due to chaos filling his godly needs better, something which could have changed now after the rift and 10000 years of fanatic faith transforming the emperor into a warp diety. Also the thing where he invented the current imperial faith and this future fits his old vision like a glove.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:09
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The archetype of Lorgar being the prodigal son who is brought back into the fold makes some decent thematic sense, but as he's written the character is totally irredeemable, fundamentally untrustworthy, and absolutely should be put down. He'd need to perform a pretty potent miracle for readers to take his redemption arc seriously, like being responsible for healing the Emperor.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:22
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Kaal posted:The archetype of Lorgar being the prodigal son who is brought back into the fold makes some decent thematic sense, but as he's written the character is totally irredeemable, fundamentally untrustworthy, and absolutely should be put down. He'd need to perform a pretty potent miracle for readers to take his redemption arc seriously, like being responsible for healing the Emperor. This is true of all the demon primarchs outher than Fulgrim, and he only gets an out because of that whole demon possession thing.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:53
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D-Pad posted:I understand why everybody hates it but I actually really like the perpetual plot. Yea I like it too, its an obvious extension of the emperor existing + the original sensei background stuff so its fun IMO. Plus they seem to be getting rid of most of em, though if any pop up in the new timeline I'll be like woah sick!!
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Dec 31, 2021 08:23
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Am I dumb or isn't the "Miracle" of St Celestine that she's a perpetual?
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Dec 31, 2021 09:55
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moths posted:Am I dumb or isn't the "Miracle" of St Celestine that she's a perpetual? IIRC Saints are more of a spontaneous psychic event while perpetuals are just weirdos
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Dec 31, 2021 14:55
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moths posted:Am I dumb or isn't the "Miracle" of St Celestine that she's a perpetual? Nope! Read her book. Her resurrections are not guaranteed. Every time she dies she wakes up in the warp with no memories and has to fight her way across a warp hellscape slowly gathering her memories and strength/powers and only being able to resurrect if she succeeds. It's actually an incredibly lovely existence.
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Khizan posted:This is true of all the demon primarchs outher than Fulgrim, and he only gets an out because of that whole demon possession thing. Did they not retcon this recently? Like Fulgrim is really himself, he was able to trick the demon and switch places with it in the painting. That book with the weird buttplug plot. So even Fulgrim is totally irredeemable too
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