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DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.
I like how the takeaway is, "Use a hard wallet."

Instead of, you know, "stop investing money in ponzi schemes."

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Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!

DaveSauce posted:

I like how the takeaway is, "Use a hard wallet."

Instead of, you know, "stop investing money in ponzi schemes."

you just have to get in at the beginning!

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


DarkHorse posted:


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OpenSea’s involvement sparked major controversy, with some alleging that NFTs could not truly be decentralized if it had “frozen” some, rendering them unsellable on the platform. Others pointed out that OpenSea had only frozen user’s ability to interact with the NFT through that one site alone—they could still be bought and sold elsewhere.


Incredible how even crypto traders don't know how it works.

drk
Jan 16, 2005
r/wsb today

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

drk posted:

r/wsb today



You didn't mention the best part, the title of the thread in wsb:

reddit posted:

What's an exit strategy? $583K loss in my favorite stock (wife's account so its ok)

Burning Wife Money: WSB edition.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Someone went back through OP's post history and apparently there was a point where they were $6m up and they just pissed it all away doubling down.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Its fine, when GME releases their NFT marketplace, things will turn around!

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Alchenar posted:

Someone went back through OP's post history and apparently there was a point where they were $6m up and they just pissed it all away doubling down.

The stock market is built on idiots not knowing when to stop.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


MLMs feel like cheating but goddamn mom is ice cold:
(I added some line breaks)

Pretty sure my mom is in an MLM

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Help/Advice
Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated! My (18) mother (54) joined something called “NuSkin” last summer and has been selling products for them. She sells things through Facebook to her friends and extended family. I’ve asked her many times if she thinks NuSkin is a pyramid scheme and of course she says no, but I’m really worried. My parents recently got divorced and it left my mom financially unstable.

I’ve been working since I was 15 so I have a good chunk of money saved up, mostly for college. Since I was a minor when my bank account was made (the one I’ve been depositing all of my paychecks into since I was 15), my mom has access to my account. I started noticing transfers from my savings into a checking account that wasn’t mine, it was my mom’s. It started out as transfers of roughly $200 but in recent weeks it’s gotten worse, the highest amount she took being $700. When I asked her what the money was for, she said it was so she could order products from NuSkin and that she’d make the money back when she sold them.

I’m not a confrontational person so I took a while to think about how I wanted to talk to my mom about her spending money that she took from me without permission. I printed out my bank statements and highlighted all of the transfers and added them up, so it would be easy for her to know exactly how much she took & so she could pay me back. She was pretty careless when presented with the statements, she kinda just brushed it off. At this point I got a little frustrated and said “Can you please at least ask before you take money from my account next time?” to which she said “Yes,” but she continues to take money without asking. I’m worried that my mom will never be able to pay me back and that she blew through her own money for this MLM and is now taking mine.

I recently turned 18 so I will be opening my own bank account as an adult, but I’m not really sure how to do that and I don’t want my mom to know. Is this an MLM or will my mom actually be able to get her money back? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks for listening.

TLDR: Mom is “borrowing” money to pay for NuSkin products, hasn’t returned any of the money.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


notwithoutmyanus posted:

Burning Wife Money: WSB edition.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

notwithoutmyanus posted:

You didn't mention the best part, the title of the thread in wsb:

Burning Wife Money: WSB edition.

I'm extremely tempted to find the thread and tell OP that the only way to make their money back is to short GME.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

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Looking to buy a house with my GF, any advice?

So just to keep it short, trying to buy a house with my girlfriend, we're only 1.5 years into our relationship but we're in a good position but I'm not looking to marry yet for another 2-3 years probably.

Is it a good idea for us to even buy a house together? If everything comes crashing down to a stop for any reason at all, I figure everything will be ok as long as we both put 50/50 all the way in, downpayment and monthly mortgage. Worst comes to worst is we sell the house and split whatever it is right down the middle. I'd like to iterate that things are going very well between the two of us so I don't see this happening, but i'm just emergency prepping.

Can it be that simple? Anything I might get blindsided with legally? Another thing is.. if we end up finding a dream house that is more expensive, if she doesn't have enough to put the 50/50 downpayment, would it be ok for me to pay more for the dp and then she pays more for mortgage until we get to 50/50 again? Any advice for this i would take as well

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If you’re not ready to be married then you’re not ready to tie yourselves to 30 years of debt together. Buy the house on your own and your gf should pay you rent.

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I don’t get how you aren’t ready to marry this person, but you are ready to buy a house with them.

here's the thought process: rent cost as much as a mortgage payment but we aren't building equity so we both feel like that's just money down the drain, interest rates are going up and will never be this "free" again to borrow, and we both have money saved up, so why don't we just buy a house and invest together. and it makes us feel like another step in terms of building our lives together a house is less permanent than a sacred bond of marriage because you can just split it in half and walk away clean, even if you do lose money

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You are disillusioned. A house is like a child. It requires regular care and feeding. It’s also about as expensive. And sometimes it turns out to be an rear end in a top hat, just like kids. An expensive rear end in a top hat.

Would you have a child with this person?

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Don’t listen to Reddit on this one, they give generalized advice, you know your relationship better than anyone here

That being said, I just did this, I bought a house with my gf and we made sure we put equal equity into everything we did and had documents of it (split down payment, split mortgage cost, etc etc) We were both on the deed, both named borrowers, etc etc.

Well one day the worst case scenario happened, and we actually broke up and decided to sell. We split everything evenly and it wasn’t messy at all. We are both decent people so we didn’t foresee loving each other over and we didn’t. So just keep that in mind and take an honest assessment of your relationship if you want to do this

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If you break up with a house, then you get a house. If you break up while renting, then you have to pay a new security deposit. Seems pretty obvious?

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Buying a house is a big deal, and is at least on par, if not more, than getting married. Would suggest, however, creating a separate joint bank account for all house related expenses, so it’s very easy to confirm the 50/50 split as one less headache.

I kinda disagree with this statement, but it could be just me. a marriage to me feels more sacred. you can always buy any house and walk away

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

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I have been renting my house and want to approach the owner with a retroactive rent to own proposal, but need some guidance.

Okay I will try and make this as short and sweet as possible, but happy to provide any additional context to assist with answering questions, but since other people here have experience in property thought a good place to start.

I have been renting a home on a plot of land for probably about 3 years, paying $800 a month in rent + utilities. On the same plot of land there are three buildings, of those two are rented and currently occupied ($500 and $600 a month in rent respectively). Final building is more or less storage, lawn mowers, snow supplies etc.

When I first moved in like three years ago the owner made mention of possibly a rent to own agreement. I'm at a stage financially now where I think I would like to entertain those discussions. I understand I would need to buy the entire property not just my own. However I am unfamiliar with how to even phrase any sort of starting point with an offer. Of course would get lawyers involved when necessary.

But for the sake of discussion below lets use the below figures for discussion:

Ive occupied unit for 3 years @$800 per month ~$29,000 spent
In same period other units would have accounted for ~$40,000 in rent
No large scale repairs to my unit, I've actually put in more work than landlord (different story). But one unit has had some work done.
Zillow has property estimate at $190k. But other houses in area sold for about same and are just standalone houses. So assuming(?) value is higher and price per square foot x total square foot would be better cost estimator( again asking ?)
My questions (assumptions/thoughts below each - please feel free to correct)

What is a fair price for the plot of land. Is the Zillow estimate better or should I be applying logic of above bullet point?

Because there's no backyard as the houses take them up. So assuming remaining strcutures are same size combined as my unit not sure if I'm looking at closer to $190-$200k or $400k (seems crazy - but who knows)

What is a fair starting point for rent to own structure?

My mind says 60-70% rent retroactively applied to down payment / removed from sale price as literally none of the money has been put back into the house or the property beyond regular mowing and landscaping.

Anything else which I should be taking into consideration? Plan is continue renting other properties out if successful and hiring a property management firm to handle rent/repairs to separate myself.

So any helpful info with anyone who has experience in that realm would be helpful.

Thank you

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I can't imagine any landlord is going to agree to a retroactive rent-to-buy.

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"Hey, landlord! I'd like to suggest this totally one sided deal, will you please sign here?!?"

OP is out of their f'ing mind.

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Not a chance.

You paid rent with no responsibility with the understanding it granted you access to live on the property for a month. Now you want to change the agreement to say 'it was that but also I want a discount to buy it from you'?

Why would your landlord take that deal?

No large scale repairs to my unit, I've actually put in more work than landlord (different story).

Don't spend a penny on a home you don't own.

Rent to own with a private seller is fraught with risk for you. If you want to buy the property buy it with a mortgage and close the deal. RTO is fraught with opportunities for you the 'owner' to get screwed and is almost always a scam.

I’m asking out of curiosity not because I took it as fact. Again my misunderstanding of the situation.

Funny how Reddit is a platform to ask questions and sometimes when you do the tone of the response sometimes comes off more “how dare you” vs here’s what you should do.

Sorry just venting since I’ve seen a few responses like this. I understand you’re trying to help just different degrees of bedside manner.

I’m glad I reached out for this clarification prior to proposing such a thing as it seems like I grossly misunderstood the word of renting

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
"I'm talking to another artist from India who says they will do it for 2 aliens."






jjack229
Feb 14, 2008
Articulate your needs. I'm here to listen.

Before Wife, Mortgage: you can always buy any house and walk away

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

Buying Without Money: she'll do it for 2 aliens

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

"I'm talking to another artist from India who says they will do it for 2 aliens."

"nah don't worry about it it's decentralized" is gonna be my 2022 vibe

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


DaveSauce posted:

I'm extremely tempted to find the thread and tell OP that the only way to make their money back is to short GME.

Good luck, they're a True Believer and the entire thread is people telling them how smart they are

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

"nah don't worry about it it's decentralized" is gonna be my 2022 vibe

"will there be any legal problems?"
"don't worry it's decentralized"

is very much saying the quiet part loud

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007



100% not the worst case scenario with the poser saying "worst case scenario". They had equity in the house.. it costs a LOT of money to buy a house and a LOT of money to sell a house.
Worst case is you buy a house spend money on inspections, escrow, lawyers, transfer taxes down payment etc. You can't stand each-other 1 year later you sell for what you owe or less after you figure in all the expenses of selling like an RE agent, attorney, fixes from inspections etc. Then Neither of you can take the hit and now you're hosed while not getting hosed/loving.


edit: i love that screenshotting or later part.. you're gunna look so dumb when alienft is worth thousands and you cry to sleep,.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 6, 2022

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

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Is 7.2% APR on a used car over 72 months good?

I'm new to car loans and this is my first rate quote- is this a good APR for a used car over 72 months? From what I have researched this is average for good credit (above 700) or slightly above average. What rates are normal? This rate was given to me through Carvana for reference.

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Short answer: No
Long answer: No, it is not a good rate.
Best answer: No

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gently caress it!!! I got a car. It was similar to this rate. All Jess snow storms and what not here. My little car barely made it during non snow days. Brand new off the lot and I got tired of fixing that mother. Bought me a 2021 truck. Getting my student loans paid and got a raise at my PRN job where I educate but mostly sit down and eat Chinese food. Live man. Just live. And between both jobs I work 36 hours a week total. Salary on FT job but only required to work 6 hours a day. Live and buy your car. You’ll be fine

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I can afford more of a down payment, and can do shorter than 72 months but I am much more concerned with having a lower monthly payment

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A car is your baby. Don't ever worry about cost or skimp on quality with shoes, beds, or cars.

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I’m looking at cars in the 16000-17000 range and my yearly is 45k due to covid work cutbacks this year.

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That is definitely too high of an interest rate for a car loan. On the other hand don't listen to all this people saying if you are doing 72 months you can't afford it. You do what you can manage.

This is a 7 year loan. He might be able to manage it today, but maybe not in 2 years let alone 5.

Imagine having to delay important purchases for his unborn child because a car payment he signed up for 5 years ago is eating up his income.

The car costs about half his annual take home pay and that’s without interest and inevitable repairs/maintenance.

Definitely a horrible financial decision.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
The thing people don't think about with those long car loans is that usually like 4 years in you owe more on the car than it's worth and you want to get rid of it because it's developed some problems. Then you're hosed.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



acidx posted:

The thing people don't think about with those long car loans is that usually like 4 years in you owe more on the car than it's worth and you want to get rid of it because it's developed some problems. Then you're hosed.

If your response to a 4 year old car developing some problems is to get rid of it and buy another one, you're already hosed.

Reminds me of one of my wife's friends, whose newish car kept getting broken into at school. Her solution was to buy a brand new car.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

My 4 year old car needs a brake job and a transmission fluid change, it's on its last legs!!

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Imperfect but I like it.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Guinness posted:

My 4 year old car needs a brake job and a transmission fluid change, it's on its last legs!!

Will your next car also be a BMW?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Guinness posted:

My 4 year old car needs a brake job and a transmission fluid change, it's on its last legs!!

The thing is, add tires to that list and its well beyond a lot of people's ability to pay for other than on a credit card if even that. A new car comes with all of those things already and is "cheaper" because it's being financed for 96 months.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Motronic posted:

The thing is, add tires to that list and its well beyond a lot of people's ability to pay for other than on a credit card if even that. A new car comes with all of those things already and is "cheaper" because it's being financed for 96 months.

You can get financing on tires these days, right?

Rolling neggity from your previous 96 month loan into a new one every 48 months seems like a losing bet... just the world's shittiest lease agreement at that point. (this is where you post :capitalism:)

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Pham Nuwen posted:

You can get financing on tires these days, right?

Not sure if that's as easy to get as financing from Nissan/a tote your note lot, but it might be.

Being poor is expensive. And a lot of people make really bad decisions because of the constant pressure that puts them under. Especially when it's like "I already live paycheck to paycheck, if I miss work I'm gonna get fired or at least lose the money for that shift".

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Pham Nuwen posted:

If your response to a 4 year old car developing some problems is to get rid of it and buy another one, you're already hosed.

Reminds me of one of my wife's friends, whose newish car kept getting broken into at school. Her solution was to buy a brand new car.

I was going to make a comment about how a big repair (like, a $5k transmission replacement) could come out to more than the value of the car. Then I looked up the price of used cars from 5 years ago and drat. I'm extremely glad that I've owned my car outright for 13 years now.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

LanceHunter posted:

I was going to make a comment about how a big repair (like, a $5k transmission replacement) could come out to more than the value of the car. Then I looked up the price of used cars from 5 years ago and drat. I'm extremely glad that I've owned my car outright for 13 years now.

RIP my 98 Honda smashed by an inattentive driver two weeks ago

:smith:

I tried buying a car in transit at sticker price and it had already sold

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

LanceHunter posted:

I was going to make a comment about how a big repair (like, a $5k transmission replacement) could come out to more than the value of the car. Then I looked up the price of used cars from 5 years ago and drat. I'm extremely glad that I've owned my car outright for 13 years now.

you think that's crazy compare prices on used trucks

some of them are selling for higher then they sold new trucks 5 years ago

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

I’m friends with the CPO manager at a nice dealership in town. His advice was stay the hell away from pre owned cars right now.

His wife wants to upgrade to a bigger SUV and he’s stonewalling it because the company cut all employee discounts for the moment.

Upgrade
Jun 19, 2021



Im stockpiling money and hope my car and survive for the next 18 months until the market calms down

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Upgrade posted:

Im stockpiling money and hope my car and survive for the next 18 months until the market calms down

Username/post combo.

Also I'm just going to assume the missing word there is "video card"

Shofixti
Nov 23, 2005

Kyaieee!

https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1478500607468228611?s=20

It's hard to tell if this is a parody or not but if you look through the thread it seems like some people might actually be invested in this scam.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

pentyne posted:

you think that's crazy compare prices on used trucks

some of them are selling for higher then they sold new trucks 5 years ago

That’s because social media and tv fueled toxic masculinity has told every tiny dicked moron that you have to grow a beard and buy an American made pickup truck with 4 doors and luxury (:lol:) features.

E: and boooooyyyy are there a lot of them

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Cacafuego posted:

That’s because social media and tv fueled toxic masculinity has told every tiny dicked moron that you have to grow a beard and buy an American made pickup truck with 4 doors and luxury (:lol:) features.

E: and boooooyyyy are there a lot of them

That's not true! I had a mustache when I bought mine.

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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Cacafuego posted:

That’s because social media and tv fueled toxic masculinity has told every tiny dicked moron that you have to grow a beard and buy an American made pickup truck with 4 doors and luxury (:lol:) features.

E: and boooooyyyy are there a lot of them

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