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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Namtab posted:

Having read ahead in world end harem I can confirm that it’s basically all about loving and the plot is otherwise intensely boring.
Oh my God I'm half interested in how they take 8 pages of "GIVE ME YOUR SEEEEEEEEEED" and 2 pages of "I've made progress on the cure/finding my lost love" in the anime.

Grouchio posted:

And ecchi
Uh what now? Does the dumb "flash of underwear" fanservice get worse or something?

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

FilthyImp posted:

Oh my God I'm half interested in how they take 8 pages of "GIVE ME YOUR SEEEEEEEEEED" and 2 pages of "I've made progress on the cure/finding my lost love" in the anime.

Uh what now? Does the dumb "flash of underwear" fanservice get worse or something?
Nah it stays about the same. "Get worse"? Is this forum sex negative? :thunk:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

did you see literally any of the costumes in the OP

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Starsnostars posted:

Bisque Doll had a very good first episode. I liked how passionate the characters were about their hobbies.

very pleasantly surprised. gorgeous art

marumaru
May 20, 2013



dogsicle posted:

did you see literally any of the costumes in the OP

i skip OPs :yikes:

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Grouchio posted:

Nah it stays about the same. "Get worse"? Is this forum sex negative? :thunk:

is it allowed for one to be sex positive and also not love anime fanservice especially when it's in highschool settings?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

dogsicle posted:

did you see literally any of the costumes in the OP
Iono, I kind of blanked out the cosplay costumes as being cosplay for cons or competitions. There was one lilith goth one I think? And a lot of just pretty general clothing. Unless it becomes "oh dressmaker, my top slipped off! :h:" or "please make a s&M fairy costume, classmate man!", then it's, uh.... well not the series that Ep 1 would make me think it was.

Grouchio posted:

Nah it stays about the same. "Get worse"? Is this forum sex negative? :thunk:
It's more that the tone I got from it made it kind of unnecessary.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

marumaru posted:

is it allowed for one to be sex positive and also not love anime fanservice especially when it's in highschool settings?
Point taken.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

marumaru posted:

is it allowed for one to be sex positive and also not love anime fanservice especially when it's in highschool settings?

Sorry, nuance is illegal.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

marumaru posted:

is it allowed for one to be sex positive and also not love anime fanservice especially when it's in highschool settings?

most of the time these series are targeted at teens so i don't know what the expectation is

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...

FilthyImp posted:

Uh what now? Does the dumb "flash of underwear" fanservice get worse or something?
Buddy,that was just a taste, next week we're probably going to the fireworks factory

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001

Nemo2342 posted:

I only read a couple chapters of the manga, but it definitely looks like it's going to be a real good time. I got a good giggle out of the "Let's respect privacy!" censorship logos.

I started snickering when they went over all of the various sentai heroes and their enemies. (I didn't know they were actual shows, though. I figured they'd have made them up to avoid copyright entanglements.) You'd think Japan assigned them jobs like they had a temp agency for it. Wait, isn't there an anime/manga that does that? There's gotta be, it's too obvious an idea for nobody to have tried it.

At any rate, I've found something to keep my Sat AM slot occupied.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the fanservice in bisque doll doesn't really go any harder than it does now. she cosplays a couple horny outfits but the camera never really goes any harder on that than it did in the first ep, at least in the manga. the worst it gets is an outfit thats clearly based on ramlethal from guilty gear.

https://twitter.com/somberness/status/1328398767310188544

and the random slight hint of underwear stuff is mostly skipped in favor of the cosplay stuff, which at least has more context to it. if anything id say the most you can expect is marin talking about the porn VNs she reads but you dont get any CGs from them or anything she just talks about how cute a guy is when hes the class president's slave or w/e. idk why people are vagueposting so creepily or w/e grouchio is talking about. there's a sexual tension element to the story but its less all-in on it than even something like, say, nichijou or shokugeki no souma or whatever, to say nothing of actual ecchi stuff like to-love-ru. if the first ep was fine for you you'll be fine going forward.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

and also the anime actually did remove a couple minor fanservice shots so its entirely possible some of the later scenes will also be toned down slightly

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

actually tbf i guess i never understand what grouchio is posting about or why

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I'm sex-negative but only for Grouchio posts

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I'm sex positive but only because I skipped the HPV Vax because it gives you Magneto powers and Hulk Dick

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
It's horny in that it's a romcom about a hormonal teenage couple where the dude makes sexy outfits for a sexy girl who enjoys teasing him. So, yeah, kind of baked into the premise. Also, (future manga spoilers) there's an entire arc about her learning to be a sexy teenage boy in order to melt the minds of an all-female panel of judges, for a bit of variety.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Doodles posted:

I started snickering when they went over all of the various sentai heroes and their enemies. (I didn't know they were actual shows, though. I figured they'd have made them up to avoid copyright entanglements.) You'd think Japan assigned them jobs like they had a temp agency for it. Wait, isn't there an anime/manga that does that? There's gotta be, it's too obvious an idea for nobody to have tried it.

At any rate, I've found something to keep my Sat AM slot occupied.

There's dozens and dozens of Local Hero sentais all over Japan, early ones started out as low budget shows on local TV stations but many of the current ones are pretty much spokespeople for their prefecture who do stage shows and teach children social values (such as Traffic Sentai Anzenger and Recycle Sentai Wakerunger) and some represent corporations and some seem to be just random dudes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_hero_(Japan)

I'm guessing the anime contacted a bunch of them and asked if they wanted to be featured in a scene and a bunch of them leapt at the chance

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Man that's way better than the dumb Justice League guys that would run around the US with tasers.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
I read a little bit of the Bisque Doll manga but dropped it since it was drawn a little too thirsty for me and I got the same basic vibe from the PV, but to me that includes stuff like detailed closeups on the female characters' faces with a lot of like, mouth detail and camera angles pointing at breasts and crotches on fully clothed characters. Things like that can feel kind of uncomfortable to me without being excessively skeevy in general and I don't think I would categorize Bisque Doll as some kind of ultra-horny anime for perverts, it just looks at the female characters with a gaze I am not personally comfortable experiencing. The story seems cute, and it doesn't really seem like the kind of show that would warrant a bunch of yikes emotes or people vagueposting about it to make it seem worse than it is.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
horny is a spectrum

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Everything Burrito posted:

I read a little bit of the Bisque Doll manga but dropped it since it was drawn a little too thirsty for me and I got the same basic vibe from the PV, but to me that includes stuff like detailed closeups on the female characters' faces with a lot of like, mouth detail and camera angles pointing at breasts and crotches on fully clothed characters. Things like that can feel kind of uncomfortable to me without being excessively skeevy in general and I don't think I would categorize Bisque Doll as some kind of ultra-horny anime for perverts, it just looks at the female characters with a gaze I am not personally comfortable experiencing. The story seems cute, and it doesn't really seem like the kind of show that would warrant a bunch of yikes emotes or people vagueposting about it to make it seem worse than it is.

i think that mouth/lip stuff is less horny and more fashion pinup flavored, like 90s shoujo had similar vibes. not trying to tell you what you can/cant enjoy more just saying my thoughts on it to be clear

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




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Endorph posted:

the fanservice in bisque doll doesn't really go any harder than it does now. she cosplays a couple horny outfits but the camera never really goes any harder on that than it did in the first ep, at least in the manga. the worst it gets is an outfit thats clearly based on ramlethal from guilty gear.

https://twitter.com/somberness/status/1328398767310188544

and the random slight hint of underwear stuff is mostly skipped in favor of the cosplay stuff, which at least has more context to it. if anything id say the most you can expect is marin talking about the porn VNs she reads but you dont get any CGs from them or anything she just talks about how cute a guy is when hes the class president's slave or w/e. idk why people are vagueposting so creepily or w/e grouchio is talking about. there's a sexual tension element to the story but its less all-in on it than even something like, say, nichijou or shokugeki no souma or whatever, to say nothing of actual ecchi stuff like to-love-ru. if the first ep was fine for you you'll be fine going forward.

I would say that next episode is going to set the high water mark when it comes to horniness since they will both explain the character she wants to cosplay and measure her for said cosplay. It never really gets horniner than that, and eventually the manga shifts to focus more on the character's chemistry and cosplay facts and less on the "hey here's some panties" stuff.


Everything Burrito posted:

I read a little bit of the Bisque Doll manga but dropped it since it was drawn a little too thirsty for me and I got the same basic vibe from the PV, but to me that includes stuff like detailed closeups on the female characters' faces with a lot of like, mouth detail and camera angles pointing at breasts and crotches on fully clothed characters. Things like that can feel kind of uncomfortable to me without being excessively skeevy in general and I don't think I would categorize Bisque Doll as some kind of ultra-horny anime for perverts, it just looks at the female characters with a gaze I am not personally comfortable experiencing. The story seems cute, and it doesn't really seem like the kind of show that would warrant a bunch of yikes emotes or people vagueposting about it to make it seem worse than it is.

That is definitely understandable; I was initially put off the manga because there was a bit too much random fanservice shots of panties/cleavage (outside of what you'd expect from just the cosplay stuff) and I think it's totally fair to decide that it was something you don't want to engage with.

Thankfully the anime has so far been dropping the extra little shots in favor of keeping the more plot/joke relevant shots, so I am tentatively hopeful it will continue to dial things back a bit.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Endorph posted:

i think that mouth/lip stuff is less horny and more fashion pinup flavored, like 90s shoujo had similar vibes. not trying to tell you what you can/cant enjoy more just saying my thoughts on it to be clear

yeah that stuff in isolation wouldn't bother me but with the combo of kind of gaze-y camera angles it just makes me a little uncomfortable but it's also mostly a thing on my end that shouldn't really stop anyone else from watching it. I did rec the show to a friend I thought would like it since she's really into cosplay so I hope she enjoys it.

RuBisCO
May 1, 2009

This is definitely not a lie



Everything Burrito posted:

yeah that stuff in isolation wouldn't bother me but with the combo of kind of gaze-y camera angles it just makes me a little uncomfortable but it's also mostly a thing on my end that shouldn't really stop anyone else from watching it. I did rec the show to a friend I thought would like it since she's really into cosplay so I hope she enjoys it.

I think your concerns are totally understandable. I echo what someone upthread said that I think the next episode should be the "worst" in that aspect, though there is a character introduction in this season that isn't great either.

But the show, or rather manga, really evolved into something I enjoy. Seeing them tone down some of the fanservice in the anime is promising and I hope it continues, because the strengths of Bisque Doll are entirely on the two main characters being super loveable and cute together. The level of detail it goes into cosplay stuff is interesting as well, as even though I have no interest, it's always neat seeing some more behind the scenes stuff into a world I otherwise have zero context for. It is a shame that the anime won't get to the school festival arc, because that was a huge highlight for me.

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

its this puritan brain disease that will make it so they don't show lum's boobs in the new uy

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

Parallax posted:

its this puritan brain disease that will make it so they don't show lum's boobs in the new uy

hosed up if true

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
Sasaki and Miyano was super cute and fluffy as expected :3:

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Arist posted:

I'm sex-negative but only for Grouchio posts

Linnaeus
Jan 2, 2013

marumaru posted:

i skip OPs

What the gently caress

Linnaeus
Jan 2, 2013

Looking forward to genius prince. The novels are pretty fun

Tales of Woe
Dec 18, 2004

skipping OPs the 2nd through Nth time is fine if you dont like the song but skipping the first one is psycho

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022
wasn't there someone before who posted about never watching the op out of an intense fear of spoilers

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Strange Quark posted:

wasn't there someone before who posted about never watching the op out of an intense fear of spoilers

I always watch the op at least once but it's never in the first episode

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

marumaru posted:

I always watch the op at least once but it's never in the first episode

is it because you have an intense fear of spoilers

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Evil society workplace comedy is fun. It's a bit more fleshed out and with more fan service than the manga though.

Also, they got a good manager

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

is it at least a little better animated than the PV indicated? like at least a little more than cels vibrating in surprise

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Parallax posted:

its this puritan brain disease that will make it so they don't show lum's boobs in the new uy

☝️

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Patware posted:

is it at least a little better animated than the PV indicated? like at least a little more than cels vibrating in surprise

It seems to be for now. The director is the same one who directed Madchen Marchen which notably had a meltdown in the middle of production so who knows.

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