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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

In my limited experience they tend to be less mobile initially as they kinda get over the change in water conditions, then they start being more mobile. If they're immobile and their trap doors are open it's not a great sign.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Nice thing about sponge filters, you don't gotta squeeze'em out that often...



(it's just really there for more bubbles/movement at the far end of the tank at this point)

candystarlight
Jun 5, 2017

candystarlight posted:

Yeah, they definitely don't smell bad

Whooooaaaaa boy, those nerites were definitely stinky this morning. Holy poo poo, was not expecting them to go from nothing at all to a hot, wet, unshowered-for-weeks armpit in 12 hours. Super sad, they really were beautiful little red racers.

AquaticArts agreed to replace them even though it was more than 24 hours, and the replacement was settled in only 20 minutes. Fantastic customer service!

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




Mozi posted:

Nice thing about sponge filters, you don't gotta squeeze'em out that often...



(it's just really there for more bubbles/movement at the far end of the tank at this point)

Look at this showoff with the carpeting plants everywhere.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Is it carpet showoff time? Post em if you got em.

Wandering Orange
Sep 8, 2012

Post-vacation "carpet":


Still didn't trim enough but it looks better:

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Looks great! What's that red midground plant?

Wandering Orange
Sep 8, 2012

That is ludwigia arcuata and it has taken a while to get red at all, it was just green or yellow leaves forever. Root tabs and dosing only micro nutrients has done it though.

I really wish I had room for a bigger tank like yours, which is gorgeous and filling in nicely! What's the green long leaf crypt or sword in the back mid/right?

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Thanks! Really happy with the progress since setting this up in July. I've been much more diligent on fert schedule and trimming and replanting than last time I tried a planted tank, and it's paying off.

That's a cryptocoryne balansae, and I'm really digging it. Considering pulling out the jungle val and using the balansae in that corner as well.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Have a hard time taking a good photo of the tank but I think it gets the idea across...



Only downside is the dozens of rasboras just hide in the back all day.

For reference this is what it looked like about four years ago:

Mozi fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jan 12, 2022

ce gars
Dec 31, 2007

How long does it typically take to get good carpeting from when you initially plant?

Hi
Oct 10, 2003

:wrong: :coffeepal:
Hey, what could be killing all my fish?


I just posted like a week ago about how great everything was going and then all the sudden found a molly dead in the filter one morning, then a day later another one was acting like it didnt have a swim bladder, like swimming in corkscrews, dead a day later. found a third, a guppy dead a few days later.


Testing the water shows all parameters normal, Ph is high but its always been , maybe not that high but certainly hasnt changed an alarming amount...

only thing thats changed is I cleaned out the big cannister filter and put charcoal in it afterwards... I havent had any charcoal in the tank since it first started cycling, could the charcoal have broken the cycle or reacted with the flourish excel or something?

I did a water change immediately after I found the first dead fish, and have done partials after both the other two... the nitrates and trites are next to none existent so I dont think that tanks not cycling..

Just weird half the fish up and died out of no where for no apparent reason, heater is still on, nothing new added to the tank... nothings changed except the filter cleaning and adding charcoal.

edit: the only other unusual behavior is, I have a blue crayfish that used to hang out all the time then eventually found a little cave to hide in and I rarely ever see him outside the cave when its light out but the last week or so when everythings been dying hes been out and about, almost 'basking' ontop of an algae covered submerged piece of drift wood. I do not think hes responsible for any of the fish deaths, but it is unusual to see him spend so much time outside his cave while the lights are on

Hi fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 13, 2022

pepperchomp
Jan 27, 2007

chomp chomp chomp
Cleaning a 75 gallon 5 gallons at a time is rough

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYhw951p8Iq/?utm_medium=copy_link

I love this guy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYpn_YXJNZd/?utm_medium=copy_link


Also what should I get to pair with my santa parrot? Idk what is even compatible that will make nice fish.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYgTAHLJyDV/?utm_medium=copy_link

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Dead mollies I always suspect hardness being an issue since they really need hard water, and corkscrew swimming is usually neurological in origin. Either due to electrolyte imbalance due to not being in hard enough water or due to other issues such as whirling disease (a parasite that causes neurological damage over the life of the fish). I would not blame the cray for the dead mollies but having dead fish in the water might have interested the cray in having a meaty diet and he might have gone for the guppy, in general guppies are more adaptable to soft water than mollies are so I don't think the guppy died of the same problem.

Since your nitrate etc testing seems fine the next thing I would check is hardness but if that is fine too the mollies might have smashed their heads on the glass trying to jump to escape the crayfish. Even my tiny dwarf crays get occasionally ambitious about eating a fish that is bigger than them. Without further clue I would suspect some nocturnal cray activities startling and stressing the fish.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Any fish I ever had with my crayfish, though was many years ago that I had crayfish, were there as food. Crayfish don't care how big the other fish is, they will tear out pieces if they can.

pepperchomp
Jan 27, 2007

chomp chomp chomp

ce gars posted:

How long does it typically take to get good carpeting from when you initially plant?

Depends if you have co2 or not, but my low tech tank with a medium light got cryptocoryne parva, which is a real slow grower, to carpet in about 8 months. It also depends on what you're trying to get to carpet. I've have dwarf sag carpet in 4 months in a high light. Both of those had root tabsevery so often and squirt ferts added regularly. Patience is key....

pepperchomp fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 13, 2022

Hi
Oct 10, 2003

:wrong: :coffeepal:

Stoca Zola posted:

Dead mollies I always suspect hardness being an issue since they really need hard water, and corkscrew swimming is usually neurological in origin. Either due to electrolyte imbalance due to not being in hard enough water or due to other issues such as whirling disease (a parasite that causes neurological damage over the life of the fish). I would not blame the cray for the dead mollies but having dead fish in the water might have interested the cray in having a meaty diet and he might have gone for the guppy, in general guppies are more adaptable to soft water than mollies are so I don't think the guppy died of the same problem.

Since your nitrate etc testing seems fine the next thing I would check is hardness but if that is fine too the mollies might have smashed their heads on the glass trying to jump to escape the crayfish. Even my tiny dwarf crays get occasionally ambitious about eating a fish that is bigger than them. Without further clue I would suspect some nocturnal cray activities startling and stressing the fish.

my water is actually incredibly hard, I live in a fairly rural area with a lot of farm land, someone suggested it was fertilizer run off seeping into the tap water.

my little electric blue cray seems to have no interest in any of the fish, he may even fear them, any time Ive seen them go close enough that he would be able to snap at them he freaks out and runs away backwards... not much of a hunter but I keep him well fed and hes really aside from the mollies and guppies that will occasionally pick at the bottom, the only bottom feeder I have so there's no competition for him

I just tested water again, here are my parameters

GeneralHardness 350-400
NO3 10
NO2 1
CI2 ~0
Carbonate KH ~200
pH 8

the GH and KH and pH have always been very high, so while not ideal this tanks been setup for the better part of a year with no issues, I dont think multiple fish would all die in the span of a week from a water issue thats been persistent since the tank was stocked months ago


edit: looking into it my water is far too hard for the angel fish Im currently keeping and actually pretty ideal for african cichlids but my angels seem to be tolerating it fine and the last cichlid I had was a monsterously huge oscar that destroyed everything and Im trying to do a planted tank this time around

Hi fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jan 13, 2022

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
What's the ammonia?

Hi
Oct 10, 2003

:wrong: :coffeepal:
Hrmm I just had to reorder test strips cause my old ones ran out and these dont test ammonia, Ill have to run out to store tomorrow.

I was gonna say if nitrites and trates are low then it should be cycling but maybe not and its all built up in ammonia?


Still does anyone have ideas what would have caused the sudden shift? the tanks been shockingly low maintenance compared to my old oscar tank I had to clean 3 times a week so to have a relatively serious issue like this out of no where is kind of startling

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
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ce gars
Dec 31, 2007

Thanks for the suggestions for my sick Cory. The Ich-X is working amazingly!

So in my 29g planted tank I currently have 11 bronze corys, 2 nerite snails, 1 mystery snail, 1 clown pleco, and about two dozen cherry shrimp. I was considering getting a few neon tetras to fill out the top area of the tank since it's currently pretty empty. But I'm afraid that it will make the bioload more than the tank can handle. Should I just stick with what I have?

ce gars fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jan 18, 2022

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

ce gars posted:

Thanks for the suggestions for my sick Cory. The Ich-X is working amazingly!

So in my 29g planted tank I currently have 11 bronze corys, 2 nerite snails, 1 mystery snail, 1 clown pleco, and about two dozen cherry shrimp. I was considering getting a few neon tetras to fill out the top area of the tank since it's currently pretty empty. But I'm afraid that it will make the bioload more than the tank can handle. Should I just stick with what I have?

neons are pretty light loading for bioload. I'd get 10. 6 is min for a school but more is better.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Got the light up on arms and a fancy new lid so I could finally take down my magnet/net contraption.


Also got a m/f pair of rainbow darters. So far they're playing nice, but I've now got a fully cycled and heavily planted 5g tank on the side to evac the skrimps to if necessary. To account for these two I've started feeding in one big dump of frozen food so some makes it to the bottom for the darters. They're starting to learn where to park on the bottom so they can grab bloodworms while the dace/shiners are devouring everything moving in the current. It's also cool seeing the dace and stonerollers conducting a thorough search of every nook and cranny afterwards.


Mountain Redbelly Dace have started to grow a lot faster and color up more after I increased the feedings a bit.


Spotfin shiners are my wife's favorite. Very flashy silver fish, very active, and they get the zoomies and circle the tank when they get excited. The male is now colored up with iridescent fins you can kinda see in the photo which are almost a turquoise in the light - also presumably due to the increase in feeding amount.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jan 19, 2022

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Nice looking tank! Those rainbow darters look awesome, might have to look into those.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



One of my guppies was a carrier for the awful camallous redworm parasite. I'm going to be treating the tank as soon as the levamisole HCl comes in the mail on friday. However, I have a blue mystery snail in the tank and I'm wondering if its ok to remove him into the quarantine tank? I've been trying to find information on message board and there have been half of people saying that that levamisole doesn't hurt invertebrates and I should dose the tank with the snail, while the other half said not to do so as the risk of death is high. I also can't find any reliable information if camallous worms infect mystery snails or not, with again half saying yes and half saying no.

I'm thinking of playing it safe and just moving him into the rescue tank for a month, but I'm curious if anyone here has had something similar happen to their tanks and what recommendations can be given. I am in Canada so fish anti-biotics are very hard to come by (I had to contact someone from a university's zoology department just to get the levamisole HCl.)

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

Desert Bus posted:

Scroll up, the net is in there. It's a tiny loving fish and I run my tanks bio-active af so it's always well fed from the micro-fauna etc. I tried food anyway. No luck.

TBH my life is pretty boring so trying to outsmart a fish is good and fun but when I have failed for like 3 days?

I have been doing this whole hobby for like 30+ years and nothing has been quite so frustrating.

Most aquarium poo poo you can resolve fast but this tiny fish is just....

I can't just drain the tank in order to just see what gets floppy,

If you think that’s fun you should set up a reef tank and then try to catch wrasses in it.

Schwack
Jan 31, 2003

Someone needs to stop this! Sherman has lost his mind! Peyton is completely unable to defend himself out there!

Entorwellian posted:

One of my guppies was a carrier for the awful camallous redworm parasite. I'm going to be treating the tank as soon as the levamisole HCl comes in the mail on friday. However, I have a blue mystery snail in the tank and I'm wondering if its ok to remove him into the quarantine tank? I've been trying to find information on message board and there have been half of people saying that that levamisole doesn't hurt invertebrates and I should dose the tank with the snail, while the other half said not to do so as the risk of death is high. I also can't find any reliable information if camallous worms infect mystery snails or not, with again half saying yes and half saying no.

I'm thinking of playing it safe and just moving him into the rescue tank for a month, but I'm curious if anyone here has had something similar happen to their tanks and what recommendations can be given. I am in Canada so fish anti-biotics are very hard to come by (I had to contact someone from a university's zoology department just to get the levamisole HCl.)

I've dosed levamisole, using Select Aquatics' dosage recommendations, in several tanks and never had an issue with invert deaths. I've not specifically had a mystery snail go through treatment, but neocaridina, ramshorn snails, nerites and bladder snails have all weather the treatment without issue. Good luck. Camallanus are frustrating as hell to deal with.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



Schwack posted:

I've dosed levamisole, using Select Aquatics' dosage recommendations, in several tanks and never had an issue with invert deaths. I've not specifically had a mystery snail go through treatment, but neocaridina, ramshorn snails, nerites and bladder snails have all weather the treatment without issue. Good luck. Camallanus are frustrating as hell to deal with.

Thank you!

candystarlight
Jun 5, 2017

Entorwellian posted:

One of my guppies was a carrier for the awful camallous redworm parasite. I'm going to be treating the tank as soon as the levamisole HCl comes in the mail on friday. However, I have a blue mystery snail in the tank and I'm wondering if its ok to remove him into the quarantine tank? I've been trying to find information on message board and there have been half of people saying that that levamisole doesn't hurt invertebrates and I should dose the tank with the snail, while the other half said not to do so as the risk of death is high. I also can't find any reliable information if camallous worms infect mystery snails or not, with again half saying yes and half saying no.

I'm thinking of playing it safe and just moving him into the rescue tank for a month, but I'm curious if anyone here has had something similar happen to their tanks and what recommendations can be given. I am in Canada so fish anti-biotics are very hard to come by (I had to contact someone from a university's zoology department just to get the levamisole HCl.)

I had asked this a few pages back and decided not to treat with levamisole based on this answer -

Stoca Zola posted:

Levamisole is not safe for snails. That said, I don't think camallanus could infect snails, mollusc blood isn't the same as vertebrate blood, molluscs have an open circulatory system which is not like a vertebrate and the worms are parasitic blood suckers which to me means they are likely too specialised to infect such a drastically different species. This is based on nothing but educated guesses though. Separate the snails so the levamisole doesn't kill them, and I think it would be safe to reintroduce them after the treatment and quarantine is done.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



candystarlight posted:

I had asked this a few pages back and decided not to treat with levamisole based on this answer -

Right. I think I'll put the snail in the rescue tank tomorrow then.

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011

Just picked up a 40 gallon tank, filter, lights and stand for free from a co- worker of my wife's because they couldn't keep fish alive and I'm excited to upgrade from my 10 and 25 gallon tanks.

I'm more excited with the 1 gallon beta tank that came with it as an added surprise and I wanted to do some micro aquascaping for some ghost shrimp or a few small snails. No idea how I want to go from here though on the small scale, I have plenty of plants to choose from my own tanks, established water already and just need to pick up some potential rocks.

Anybody have some small tanks they can show off for inspiration? I know I can't do alot of big heavy items due to water displacement, could easily reduce the water to half a gallon. Heavily planted with maybe some spider drift wood and some small river rocks could be interesting.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
So my bathroom faucet (a utility one) has sprung a leak around the base. I use this for my water change/Python system, so I need a new faucet that will work. What do other goons use?

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


It's getting harder and harder to find any that have the removable aerator to hook the python up to.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I sold my Python on cause I couldn't get the faucet thingy off with my crippled hands and once I did I needed an adapter. It was easier to just keep using buckets plus I can let the water sit and mix stuff in if need be.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


I'm refilling 200+ gallons a week, so buckets aren't going to cut it here.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
I noticed the base of the faucet is only leaking when I have the python actually on, filling up. But I'm guessing I probably still have replacing the entire thing instead of just an o.ring or something.

When it's draining without the water pressure on, there's usually a little bit of water but not much.

Wandering Orange
Sep 8, 2012

If you're shopping for faucets, check the user manual for aerator replacement and see if it's a standard internal thread or if it's some proprietary funk.

If the aerator threads in then obviously it can be removed. I usually take that aerator to Menards, or whatever store, along with the Python and just sit in the plumbing aisle playing with threaded adapters until something works. Usually only need one it two $2 parts.

So then your process every water change is unthread aerator, thread in python with adapter, etc. You can usually find quick disconnect adapters too if you want to make it a bit easier.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Wandering Orange posted:

If you're shopping for faucets, check the user manual for aerator replacement and see if it's a standard internal thread or if it's some proprietary funk.

If the aerator threads in then obviously it can be removed. I usually take that aerator to Menards, or whatever store, along with the Python and just sit in the plumbing aisle playing with threaded adapters until something works. Usually only need one it two $2 parts.

So then your process every water change is unthread aerator, thread in python with adapter, etc. You can usually find quick disconnect adapters too if you want to make it a bit easier.

I love this site, someone always knows something.

ce gars
Dec 31, 2007

I picked up a few more cherry shrimp last week and this fry accidentally got scooped into the bag as well. They let me take it since I'm sure it'd be a pain to get back out.

I'm no good at identifying something this little. A guppy maybe?




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big dong wanter
Jan 28, 2010

The future for this country is roads, freeways and highways

To the dangerzone

ce gars posted:

I picked up a few more cherry shrimp last week and this fry accidentally got scooped into the bag as well. They let me take it since I'm sure it'd be a pain to get back out.

I'm no good at identifying something this little. A guppy maybe?






im pretty sure thats a great white shark (congrats on the free fish)

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