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Telsa Cola posted:If by shady leaders you mean it's heavily implied they use pheremonal mind control to maintain order then yes.
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Jan 23, 2022 05:18
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Galvanik posted:I'm not to up on the Tau. Is this different than regular PTSD? Do Fire Warriors not suffer from it? it's like regular ptsd but faster
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Jan 23, 2022 05:24
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Until they get another hit of that sweet sweet Ethereal musk to smooth out the harsh edges
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Jan 23, 2022 05:57
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Galvanik posted:I'm not to up on the Tau. Is this different than regular PTSD? Do Fire Warriors not suffer from it? I can't locate it now, but there was a couple things about battlesuit psychosis (as its cannoly know) that implied that at least some of the lumped in symptoms was a result of the tau within the air tight/filtered battlesuites realizing what was going on with the ethereal pheremones , and refusing orders.
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Telsa Cola posted:I can't locate it now, but there was a couple things about battlesuit psychosis (as its cannoly know) that implied that at least some of the lumped in symptoms was a result of the tau within the air tight/filtered battlesuites realizing what was going on with the ethereal pheremones , and refusing orders. Ethereals controlling other Tau through pheromones has ever been confirmed or shown in some form or is still a theory? I'm not big into Tau and I don't remember if this is still a thing.
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orphean posted:Ethereal musk Ah yes, founder of Tesla Battlesuits
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Ah yes, founder of Tesla Battlesuits You have to admit mind control pheromones would explain quite a lot about that stock price.
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Jan 23, 2022 12:04
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Angry Lobster posted:Ethereals controlling other Tau through pheromones has ever been confirmed or shown in some form or is still a theory? I'm not big into Tau and I don't remember if this is still a thing. Mostly implications, the old Xenologis book more or less spelled it out but that book might not be canon these days. And Liber Xenologis just mentions that people are very much willing to die for Ethereals without getting into what's causing it.
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Jan 23, 2022 16:20
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i bet if it comes bqck it'll be more of a low level psyk phenomenon
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I've just recently started reading Tau-focused works and I feel like the whole Ethereal pheromones thing is the midichlorians of 40k. It works perfectly fine to have the Ethereals' supreme influence come from societal conditioning and their own superb communication skills.
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Jan 23, 2022 20:20
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I've just recently started reading Tau-focused works and I feel like the whole Ethereal pheromones thing is the midichlorians of 40k. It works perfectly fine to have the Ethereals' supreme influence come from societal conditioning and their own superb communication skills. It's like psykers being caused by electrical brain current in Eisenhorne Maleus, in that it will probably never be mentioned again
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Jan 23, 2022 21:26
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Cooked Auto posted:Mostly implications, the old Xenologis book more or less spelled it out but that book might not be canon these days. And Liber Xenologis just mentions that people are very much willing to die for Ethereals without getting into what's causing it. I see, thanks. The pheromone explanation is kind of a janky explanation but who knows.
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Jan 23, 2022 22:10
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Telsa Cola posted:Yeah thats always been one of the big mysteries. Demons have this weird fear of him that really looks like it goes beyond the mere fact he can give them true deaths (because a poo poo ton of other things can and they don't react as such to those). The Emperor, for this purpose, is basically Nagash. He's a lunatic with a lot of power and an extremely defined goal for the future which he is obsessed with where Chaos is not a thing. If Slaanesh wins the great game temporarily, there is still room for the other gods to rise again and turn the tables. If the Emperor wins, he wants to flip the table and get rid of them permanently-no more games. So the Chaos gods in both cases are like 'well, poo poo, this guy is Bad News'. (The Emperor is, in general, Nagash with a shiny coat of gold paint and being slightly more subtle about his megalomania.) Also he may or may not have cheated the Gods out of a deal? Maybe? The whole thing was confusing and ambiguous. Ethereal pheromones sucks and is bad. Things like the worm dudes they have or those 'translators' the Vespids have are actually thematic and work way better for Tau mind control if you have to go there! But I guess this is what GW has decided to go with-recently there was the 'Tau pheromone' scented candle(????) and a really awful Sisters of Battle vs Tau story where there was a bit that I think was meant to imply that the water caste dude was being mind controlled but it just read like he was really horny. I don't know. That story was really bad and I don't remember much about it.
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Anyone got any early opinions on Krieg? Considering it
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Covermeinsunshine posted:Anyone got any early opinions on Krieg? Considering it Didn't it just go up for pre order yesterday?
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Didn't it just go up for pre order yesterday? yeah, still no preorder on audible yet, but not even sure when it goes up on there. i assume next saturday
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Tchaikovsky this Saturday, I’m hype. Also enjoying “twice dead king reign” a whole lot.
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Just started the audiobook for Dark Imperium and I’m quite enjoying it so far. The discussion of creating a hospital world was rather interesting.
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I now want a WH40K series (book, animation, live action, graphic novel or otherwise) that takes place entirely on a Hospital World.
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Wouldn't that be a Sister's of Battle shrine world with the Sisters Hospitaller?
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AndyElusive posted:I now want a WH40K series (book, animation, live action, graphic novel or otherwise) that takes place entirely on a Hospital World. Arc Hammer posted:Wouldn't that be a Sister's of Battle shrine world with the Sisters Hospitaller? Well if you want a very horror style take on basically this, read Peter Fehervari's Requiem Infernal. I just burned through most of the dark coil recently, and it lives up to all the hype.
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AndyElusive posted:I now want a WH40K series (book, animation, live action, graphic novel or otherwise) that takes place entirely on a Hospital World. It was pretty interesting and talking about Robot Gorillaman’s mercy vs The Emperor’s Mercy and well also the entire concept of medical care for normal people via the Imperium is pretty wild.
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Jan 25, 2022 19:50
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One of Abnetts short stories in Magos? I think has that
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I had a thought. Would a Krieger born as a perpetual be super depressed that he couldn't die for the Emperor or would he be super psyched that he could keep dying for the Emperor?
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Arc Hammer posted:I had a thought. Would a Krieger born as a perpetual be super depressed that he couldn't die for the Emperor or would he be super psyched that he could keep dying for the Emperor? First one than the other. I mean dying multiple times has to take a toll on your psyche right?
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Zil posted:First one than the other. I mean dying multiple times has to take a toll on your psyche right? You need some sanity to begin with for it to take a toll on you. Also a perpetual Krieg trooper means perpetual suicide bombing, fun times!
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Angry Lobster posted:You need some sanity to begin with for it to take a toll on you. Also a perpetual Krieg trooper means perpetual suicide bombing, fun times! That makes me think of the horrors of a perpetual eversor assassin.
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Zil posted:That makes me think of the horrors of a perpetual eversor assassin. Groundhog Day Eversor assassin tasked with killing the planetary government of a traitor world who keeps dying at the end and waking up X decades later with a new government back in power. Coulda sworn I killed this governor like 20 times already he wonders before wrying and exploding congress
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Arc Hammer posted:I had a thought. Would a Krieger born as a perpetual be super depressed that he couldn't die for the Emperor or would he be super psyched that he could keep dying for the Emperor?
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Zil posted:That makes me think of the horrors of a perpetual eversor assassin. AAAAAA *BOOM* .... AAAAAA *BOOM* .... AAAAAA *BOOM* .... AAA-
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Zil posted:That makes me think of the horrors of a perpetual eversor assassin. Not sure. Would they regenerate with all their modifications?
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 Horrors? Look how happy he is! Serving the Big E repeatedly is like a case of amasec that always has another bottle, citizen. Also: 
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Truly a one man apocalypse.
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Are they skull helmets or are they just skull people
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NihilCredo posted:On the tabletop, does an Eversor beat a spehss mehrine? To be honest, I don't play tabletop and can't really parse the stats. Plus there's a ton of them (I just pulled out the base stats, without considering all the weapons and abilities). An Eversor has a lot of good attacks and hitpoints, but hardly any armor compared to a Tactical Marine. https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/space-marines/Tactical-Squad M WS BS S T W A Ld Sv 6" 3+ 3+ 4 4 2 1 7 3+ https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/officio-assassinorum/Eversor-Assassin M WS BS S T W A Ld Sv 7" 2+ 2+ 4 4 6 6 9 6+ Movement: Base distance a model can move during movement phase. Weapon Skill: Roll equal or higher to score a hit in close combat. Ballistic Skill: Roll equal to or higher to score a hit with ranged attacks. Strength: Stat versus enemy toughness (melee only) that determines your To Wound roll. Toughness: Stat versus enemy strength (melee and ranged) that determines -their- to wound roll. Wounds: The amount of damage a model can sustain before being removed as a casualty. Attacks: Number of attacks you get in the close combat phase. Divided between your melee weapons. Leadership: Value representing morale. After a turn in which a unit takes casualties, roll 1d6+number of casualties. Every point over Leadership causes a model to be removed as a casualty. Save: Roll equal to or above to negate damage from one attack. Kaal fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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That’s just the statline, and it doesn’t really tell the whole tale. Eversors don’t have a great armor save because their Lightning Reflexes ability confers a 4+ invulnerable which is significantly better. Between their other abilities and their weapons, the Eversor absolutely wipes the floor with an average Tactical Marine and if he gets into melee range could easily wipe out three or maybe even four in a single round without any serious consequences.
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