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mds2 posted:Yes, the new one. Lol exciting, thanks. I hope I can contain the burn to the plan. Other torches were so much more expensive
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  From reddit. DIY sawhorses. Overbuilt or under-engineered?
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Vim Fuego posted:
Looking at it I'd say it's both
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Vim Fuego posted:
What are they being used for?
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Vim Fuego posted:From reddit. DIY sawhorses. Overbuilt or under-engineered? To me, the whole point of sawhorses is that they're portable and easily made from some scrap lumber, something you knock together real quick. otherwise you might as well just use a workbench. if he had etxra 4x4 lying around i guess it's ok but i still wouldnt wanna have to move those around. Also I would have cut two sets of notches to fit a couple of 2x4s spanning across. what did he use for the joinery? BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:what did he use for the joinery? This. I'd be worried about having a load on those and then just pushing at one from the side, seems like those legs aren't stable in that direction.
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Jan 26, 2022 15:13
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:To me, the whole point of sawhorses is that they're portable and easily made from some scrap lumber, something you knock together real quick. otherwise you might as well just use a workbench. if he had etxra 4x4 lying around i guess it's ok but i still wouldnt wanna have to move those around. Also I would have cut two sets of notches to fit a couple of 2x4s spanning across. Gravity
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:what did he use for the joinery? I found the post, and they claim mortise and tenons. Not sure if I can link directly to the post, but:  He claims they can come apart, and it seems he's going to do timber framing and wants something that can support a ton of weight.
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If he wants to support a lot of weight, he should have used more triangles. A 2x4 can support a ton of weight (maybe not literally), if it is properly braced.
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Guy's got a good start on an old world style farmhouse table. Just sayin'.
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^^^^Agreed, waste of nice beams to use for work To my great eternal Shame I realize they are 6x6 not 4x4  DrBouvenstein posted:I found the post, and they claim mortise and tenons. Ok in that context, I presume he's gonna be taking them apart for transport and using them on site. I thought it was just for use within that work shop, which seemed silly. But then the thought of loading up homemade unorthodox sawhorses with heavy timber stock kinda gives me the heebie jeebies. A single beam falling off after they fail would maim you and possibly kill you if there's nobody around to call for help. TooMuchAbstraction posted:If he wants to support a lot of weight, he should have used more triangles. A 2x4 can support a ton of weight (maybe not literally), if it is properly braced. You're not kidding, I've put a literal ton ( ~20 24' 2x12s) on 2x6 horses without visible deflection. They really are amazing structures
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They're a weird height for sure. Not quite bench height, no quite knee height (where I like to have my saw benches), but something in between? Also, seconding the engineering, it's just a weirdly wasteful design that probably isn't even as strong as a conventional saw bench. Timber framing may use a shitton of big members, but as you work them individually, you won't have more than what, 100ish kg on them at a time? At least that's my experience, built some saw benches after an old episode of the Woodwright's Shop out of 2x4s, and those held up fine chopping out mortises in 6x6 posts with the added weight of me sitting on them too.
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Just Winging It posted:They're a weird height for sure. Not quite bench height, no quite knee height (where I like to have my saw benches), but something in between? Also, seconding the engineering, it's just a weirdly wasteful design that probably isn't even as strong as a conventional saw bench. Timber framing may use a shitton of big members, but as you work them individually, you won't have more than what, 100ish kg on them at a time? At least that's my experience, built some saw benches after an old episode of the Woodwright's Shop out of 2x4s, and those held up fine chopping out mortises in 6x6 posts with the added weight of me sitting on them too. They weigh wayyyy more than 100ish kg
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:^^^^Agreed, waste of nice beams to use for work My house is 116 years old and it wasn't fancy when it was built. All the joists are 2x6, rough sawn softwood and they're still in perfect shape.
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I have two pairs of gussetted sawhorses built on Paul Sellers's pattern held together with glue and two screws in each leg and I put literally my entire timberframe bench on one pair of them. More than the entire bench, in fact, because it was all of rough wood for the bench. Shop-made 2x4 sawhorses own.
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An old guy I worked with on a job once cut a little deep on a cut on someone's homemade sawhorses with a circular saw and the guy was like THEYRE RUINED and the other guy said "not yet!" and then set it deep and went back and cut it in half and said "now it is" I still laugh at that circus of a jobsite
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more falafel please posted:My house is 116 years old and it wasn't fancy when it was built. All the joists are 2x6, rough sawn softwood and they're still in perfect shape. Old growth softwood 116 years ago is a different beast than anything you can buy in a regular store today.
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:An old guy I worked with on a job once cut a little deep on a cut on someone's homemade sawhorses with a circular saw and the guy was like THEYRE RUINED and the other guy said "not yet!" and then set it deep and went back and cut it in half and said "now it is" I still laugh at that circus of a jobsite Lmfaooooo
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:An old guy I worked with on a job once cut a little deep on a cut on someone's homemade sawhorses with a circular saw and the guy was like THEYRE RUINED and the other guy said "not yet!" and then set it deep and went back and cut it in half and said "now it is" I still laugh at that circus of a jobsite BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Lmfaooooo Vim Fuego fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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i'm amazed i got this old without thinking to put pink insulation foam under circular saw cuts as a sacrificial raiser
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I just saw through the saw horses 
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Yeah, the idea of a sawhorse that isn't covered in cuts and paint and wood glue is really hosed up.
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yeah but the pink on a flat surface is good for breaking down big chunks of plywood and stuff that would otherwise lever or fall and crack from its own weight during a cut
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SpartanIvy posted:I just saw through the saw horses I have a sacrificial board on top of my sawhorses for exactly this reason. If I overcut by more than 1.5" that on me.
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Bondematt posted:I have a sacrificial board on top of my sawhorses for exactly this reason. If I overcut by more than 1.5" that on me.
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I have the stupid unfolding metal brackets that you slot some 2x4's into to make a sawhorse. I am constantly terrified that the tin they are made of is going to fold and a log is going to fall on my foot. I should just make some huh? I hate working around my crippling fear of losing my foot.
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I have the lovely brackets and I believe that they'd be safe if I bothered to add a gusset or a crossbrace or anything. As it is they have yet to fail
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Vim Fuego posted:I have the lovely brackets and I believe that they'd be safe if I bothered to add a gusset or a crossbrace or anything. As it is they have yet to fail This is what terrifies most. I have used these things for years. I know they are planning. Waiting for me to let my guard down. Lulling me into a false sense of security. I can hear them laughing
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Amazon Basics Hand Planes exist lol
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Making my second rip on my Craftsman table saw and it loses power and smells of burnt motor. Just grabbed a Dewalt jobsite saw with the wheeled stand. Hopefully it does me well. I really liked that Craftsman one, had it about 10 years. It was their Pro line so it wasn't too bad.
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Literally A Person posted:I have the stupid unfolding metal brackets that you slot some 2x4's into to make a sawhorse. I am constantly terrified that the tin they are made of is going to fold and a log is going to fall on my foot. I should just make some huh? I hate working around my crippling fear of losing my foot. I had a set of those for years. Finally donated them to I forget who. They never did collapse, but I didn't overload them either. Handy for painting long pieces of trim, etc. But yeah make some. No law says you only have a single set of sawhorses.
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A cheap set of foldable plastic horses is nice to have around.
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You: uses inexpensive and/or improvised platforms to hold your workpieces at a comfortable and safe height Me, an intellectual: squatting on the ground like Gollum with a circular saw
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Me: "I wonder why my back and knees hurt" Also me at home Depot looking at plastic horses "$49.99? Do I really need these now? Naaa" The following week: "God my knees hurt"
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One of my very favorite things about working construction was when some young guy would get hired and laugh at all of us for carrying around and wearing kneepads. That laughter stopped pdq.
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canyoneer posted:Me, an intellectual: squatting on the ground like Gollum with a circular saw replace this with a miter saw and i was this fuckin DIY troll a few weeks ago 
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Johnny Truant posted:replace this with a miter saw and i was this fuckin DIY troll a few weeks ago To be fair, unless you're doing a bunch of cuts it's a real pain in the rear end to set up the stand. At least the stand I have (old-ish dewalt).
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I am going launch my framing square into the sun. Why does this thing have 10th of inch on one side? Who the uses 10th of an inch? I know 1000th is used in manufacturing but who is using 10th of inch.
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Calidus posted:I am going launch my framing square into the sun. Why does this thing have 10th of inch on one side? Who the uses 10th of an inch? I know 1000th is used in manufacturing but who is using 10th of inch. Roof pitch.
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