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Same but aggressively. FFVI pixel remaster can't come soon enough.
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Harrow posted:Same but disrespectfully Mzbundifund posted:Who's Edward? I think they meant Edgar I also have no idea who the "pirate lady" is. That makes me think of Leila from FF2 but that's a different game.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:48
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Gaius Marius posted:Started playing the Final Fantasy VI. Figured I'd give it another go to see why people are so into it. Got up to the escape from Figaro. I'm pretty sure the last thing I remember from playing it years ago was just after that when you meet the pirate lady and escape. My unpopular ff opinion is that the first third of ff6 is so tedious to churn through that I don't really care how good the rest of it might be. The three scenario split is just never-ending I'm gonna give it another go with the PR edition but FF5 is kind of the longest JRPG I'm willing to put up with and that one is at least nice enough to give you the keys to the car pretty early on
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Jan 31, 2022 19:48
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Reminder that a lot of FF6 is optional and you are not required to do all of it. If you don't like games that are super long then just do the main story. It's an easy enough game that you don't need to grind a lot.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:51
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Gaius Marius posted:Started playing the Final Fantasy VI. Figured I'd give it another go to see why people are so into it. Got up to the escape from Figaro. I'm pretty sure the last thing I remember from playing it years ago was just after that when you meet the pirate lady and escape. Like, do you just not like the ATB system that's in over half the games? And the section when you're in magitek armor and overpowering everything is, like, five minutes?
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Jan 31, 2022 19:53
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FFVI is a good game but holy poo poo it is incredibly boring for the longest time.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:53
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I thought FFVI Remaster comes out tomorrow?
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Jan 31, 2022 19:54
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They haven't announced a date yet. Supposedly sometime in February but so far no news since like December.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:54
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I said come in! posted:I thought FFVI Remaster comes out tomorrow? Steam store page just says "on February 2022" with no specific date yet.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:55
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I am pretty sure that is a troll post considering it mixes FF4, 5, and 6 together.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:56
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Zil posted:Steam store page just says "on February 2022" with no specific date yet. Wishful thinking then. I am excited for its release.
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Jan 31, 2022 19:56
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One can be forgiven for mistaking Setzer as a pirate lady
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Shabadu posted:One can be forgiven for mistaking Setzer as a pirate lady This can be applied to like a third of Amano characters
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Jan 31, 2022 20:03
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NikkolasKing posted:FFVI is a good game but holy poo poo it is incredibly boring for the longest time. I wish you got espers sooner, thats the fun part of the mechanics to me
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Jan 31, 2022 20:23
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The game may as well not have combat for the first 15 hours because it's largely just rotating around which way you freely auto-resolve them with a job ability
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No Dignity posted:The game may as well not have combat for the first 15 hours because it's largely just rotating around which way you freely auto-resolve them with a job ability I love FF6 but that applies to the entire game.
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If you're not into ff6 by the 3-party split just stop because the gameplay loop doesn't change and you already met kefka, so there's not much else to surprise you unless you really want to experience the world of ruin transition. at least do sabin's first, and if that doesn't pull you more into the world, not much else will imo FF6 does a number of things that are interesting to JRPG anthropologists, like being in a magitek suit changes your commands but not your character, fancier in-battle cutscenes (which they've been learning and experimenting with in the Romancing SaGa series, all about the same timeframe), mode 7 world map spinning with the airship, multiple active parties and swapping between them, character skills but learning spells as the midway point between FF4s "every character grows along their specific way" and FF5s "absolute freedom to build characters," as well as experimenting with what they do with them, some good some bad But hard or complex, ff6 a'int NikkolasKing posted:FFVI is a good game but holy poo poo it is incredibly boring for the longest time. I don't mean to single you out here, but as someone trying to understand it, what part of FFVI would be the beginning of the interesting part??? It's not the part where you juggle moogle parties?? Where Figaro castle dives under the sand and you escape a madman's barbeque?? Sabin's Incredible Adventures all across creation? The Narshe 3-party party? The gameplay of FF6 is the weakest part by far and I wholly admit I get pulled through more on the feeling of the game more than any difficulty, so I'm curious if anyone has a differing opinion on where the story picks up. fake edit: this reminds me that the ff6 t-edition is out there, does anyone have firsthand experience with it? curious about that as well Eight-Six fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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I just wanna hear the Pixel Remaster version of "Searching for Friends," is that so much to ask Square Enix??
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Harrow posted:I just wanna hear the Pixel Remaster version of "Searching for Friends," is that so much to ask Square Enix?? off the back of The Fierce Battle and the fight against Atma Weapon did I save my pennies as a youth and order the OST from the back pages of Nintendo Power
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Jan 31, 2022 20:51
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I am still dying to know what other scenes received opera treatment:
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Super No Vacancy posted:the new testament is an isekai No that's a reverse-isekai.
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Ragequit posted:I am still dying to know what other scenes received opera treatment: Might just be nostalgia talking, but I'd honestly love an RPG with this kind of 3D pixel art format.
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i guess the caves leading up to the shell boss could be a little boring but even then i like the music. thats pretty much the only slow part of ff6 to me. the irenicus' dungeon of jrpgs. the opening is captivating to me and when they start doing party splitting and moogle RTSes i go wild. actually maybe the magitek research facility is a little bit of a slog but nothing that makes me shudder like the no metal cave in ff4 or that last zone in ffx
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Eight-Six posted:If you're not into ff6 by the 3-party split just stop because the gameplay loop doesn't change and you already met kefka, so there's not much else to surprise you unless you really want to experience the world of ruin transition. at least do sabin's first, and if that doesn't pull you more into the world, not much else will imo Well, I do have to admit I only beat FFVI thanks to the Brave New World hack. Before that, I always got bored and wandered off. BNW made the game more challenging and thus more interesting to play for me. As for when the story picks up....honestly, around the same time as the gameplay picks up, when you get Espers. Midway through the World of Balance and then the entire World of Ruin were great. Before that, I absolutely agree with you that FFVI was just a bunch of boring, "whacky" events. I distinctly remember thinking "when does this become a brilliant story and the best FF game ever?" Well, the answer is probably post-Magitek Factory.
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I hope there's no trophy for getting all of Gau's rage. FFVI is a brilliant game but also a complete mess of half-baked mechanics.
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NikkolasKing posted:Well, I do have to admit I only beat FFVI thanks to the Brave New World hack. Before that, I always got bored and wandered off. BNW made the game more challenging and thus more interesting to play for me. fair and reasoned!!! thank you
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Personally I think the assault on Narshe intro to 6 is a pretty brilliant framing device. It starts you off piloting mechs, which was pretty new and awesome for the time. You're controlling soldiers of an evil empire, stomping into a basically defenseless town to murder poo poo and take what you want, which is a great reversal of how most games frame things. The mechs are powerful, and provide resourceless offense and healing, which gives new players a chance to learn the menu-based gameplay without risk, while providing a realistic in-world explanation for why the stuff you're fighting is not a threat. Then the boss teaches you about the ATB gameplay in what has become the Standard First Boss for FF games. And after you've just stomped through all opposition with overwhelming force, the Esper totally chumps you without even needing to get out of its ice block, thereby setting the stakes for what you're dealing with. Empire = Powerful and bullying the rest of the world. Espers = even more powerful and mysterious. There, the setting for the world is all set up during a seamlessly integrated tutorial- now you're free to start your adventure.
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Vermain posted:Might just be nostalgia talking, but I'd honestly love an RPG with this kind of 3D pixel art format. Octopath Traveler? Also Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
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I said come in! posted:Octopath Traveler? Also Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes Octopath Traveler isn't for everyone but I personally loved it and it's a very pretty game with a top tier soundtrack. If you have a Switch there's a free demo. I highly recommend everyone give it a try. There's also the Triangle Strategy demo for Switch as well which is by the same studio.
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Vermain posted:Might just be nostalgia talking, but I'd honestly love an RPG with this kind of 3D pixel art format. Octopath Traveler has been out for awhile.There are several other games in development with similar (or identical) styles, including the Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D remake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmfiqydPjVk
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If Octo's post-game dungon hadn't pulled the same poo poo as the prior versions of FF3, a long gauntlet of bosses with zero checkpoints, then the epilogue wouldnt have left players with a sour taste in the mouth. Has it been pointed out that Baramos from the above Dragon Quest looks like Hans Moleman? Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:If Octo's post-game dungon hadn't pulled the same poo poo as the prior versions of FF3, a long gauntlet of bosses with zero checkpoints, then the epilogue wouldnt have left players with a sour taste in the mouth. Octo left a bad taste in my mouth way before the post game dungeon.
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Man, FFVI's split party sequence is so good. Maybe not Edgar/Terra, but Locke rescuing Celes is like the only time he's likable and Sabin's wild adventures blew my small mind, as did the second half of the game basically just saying "yo do whatever you want and go wherever, I'm not gonna tell you what to do"
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Evil Fluffy posted:Octopath Traveler has been out for awhile.There are several other games in development with similar (or identical) styles, including the Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D remake: When is this coming out? That trailer was from back in May last year, i'm surprised there has been nothing new.
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revisiting the locales you already went to with the split parties was so nifty. all the hidden passages in south figaro and everyone making new friends so you then finally get everyone together and you have all these new dynamics to play off also that sneaky little thing later where if you pick an undersized party you get shadow again so sick Schwartzcough posted:Personally I think the assault on Narshe intro to 6 is a pretty brilliant framing device. It starts you off piloting mechs, which was pretty new and awesome for the time. You're controlling soldiers of an evil empire, stomping into a basically defenseless town to murder poo poo and take what you want, which is a great reversal of how most games frame things. The mechs are powerful, and provide resourceless offense and healing, which gives new players a chance to learn the menu-based gameplay without risk, while providing a realistic in-world explanation for why the stuff you're fighting is not a threat. Then the boss teaches you about the ATB gameplay in what has become the Standard First Boss for FF games. And after you've just stomped through all opposition with overwhelming force, the Esper totally chumps you without even needing to get out of its ice block, thereby setting the stakes for what you're dealing with. Empire = Powerful and bullying the rest of the world. Espers = even more powerful and mysterious. There, the setting for the world is all set up during a seamlessly integrated tutorial- now you're free to start your adventure. drat good points
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I said come in! posted:When is this coming out? That trailer was from back in May last year, i'm surprised there has been nothing new. I'm betting on next year for the 35th anniversary.
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I said come in! posted:Octopath Traveler? Octopath's going for more of a storybook look with some pixel art thrown into the mix. It's too overblown and hazy to match the kind of crispness you usually get from pixel art.
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There's no pirate lady in FF6, that's Faris from FF5. There's also no Edward in FF6, that's Edgar. Edward is from FF4. Sounds like you're mixing up a few FF's. That's cool, that means your experience will be a bit new this time around! FF6 is one of my all-time favorites. I think the start is more plot/tutorial than any actual attempt at fun gameplay really. It starts getting good around the spot where you're at right now, with three-four people in your party that all do different things. EDIT: Oh wow I missed a whole page I think. This was in response to Gaius Marius
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Eight-Six posted:fake edit: this reminds me that the ff6 t-edition is out there, does anyone have firsthand experience with it? curious about that as well I wish there was a romhack out there that combined Divergent Paths, T-Edition and Brave New World though. I like all three of those for different things they do and I wish I could just combine them. Throw on the Revised Old School Edition re-translation on top of that, and it'd be near perfect.
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Schwartzcough posted:Like, do you just not like the ATB system that's in over half the games? Correct, It's not a good battle system. The function of it is to drive tension as you wait for your bar to fill, however what happens is you spend the first 15 seconds of each battle just waiting for no reason. They could've just started the battle off with you're fastest dude or enemy going but they chose not to. There's zero reason for the game to ever not let you make decisions and I'm surprised the system remained for so long. This is not to say the Mechanics in the Battle System are necessarily bad. I honestly have no idea I haven't really had to engage with the combat at all. And there's plenty of games with interesting systems stuck inside terrible battle systems, like every rtwp game ever. NikkolasKing posted:FFVI is a good game but holy poo poo it is incredibly boring for the longest time. The difference in my level of excitement for the intro of If... and this game are palpable.
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