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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

navyjack posted:

I got into Maker of Fire today. It’s pretty good. Isekai but no cultivation or system. Can be a little or a lot distressing depending on your sensitivity because it’s set in a Bronze-age magically enforced slave culture with all the awfulness that entails. Doesn’t wallow in it but doesn’t shy away, either. Primary MC is a 71 year old geologist/materials scientist reincarnated into the slave caste and enjoined by the Gods to fix the world through applied science. The author seems to be knowledgeable and there’s not the usual hand wavy bullshit that most of these stories use to get around tooling and supply chain issues(except when the gods get involved and do something explicitly hand wavy).

I don't mind it so much when it's the main character because presumably the story is about getting out of that situation, and hopefully getting others out of it as well. That said...

Secondary character: "I remember my life in Coventry, Warwickshire. Here is a handwritten message in English for you."
Main character: "Hmm, could this person be from earth as well? drat, I wish there was some way for me to be sure..."

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
War Queen The Sovereignty gets more and more hyper fascism revealed as it goes huh? They're at the point where humans are eungenicing out Peanut allergies and if you show even temporary allergy as an infant you are immediately placed on the 'can never have kids' list. And of course this was after getting rid of every other 'defect' they felt was more important which has just horrifying implications.

I do wonder how the conflict is actually gonna develop from here though. Right now the Formites are basically all in on that ideology themselves so I wonder if the captured Coalition member is gonna start changing some minds or if we get all the way up to the flashpoint where 'giant bugs' aren't useful anymore and the Sovereignty starts exterminating them for being different.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

Zore posted:

War Queen The Sovereignty gets more and more hyper fascism revealed as it goes huh? They're at the point where humans are eungenicing out Peanut allergies and if you show even temporary allergy as an infant you are immediately placed on the 'can never have kids' list. And of course this was after getting rid of every other 'defect' they felt was more important which has just horrifying implications.

I do wonder how the conflict is actually gonna develop from here though. Right now the Formites are basically all in on that ideology themselves so I wonder if the captured Coalition member is gonna start changing some minds or if we get all the way up to the flashpoint where 'giant bugs' aren't useful anymore and the Sovereignty starts exterminating them for being different.


I got the impression the blessed guy was really keen on their abilities to integrate other species, which has some awful implications.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Zore posted:

War Queen Right now the Formites are basically all in on that ideology themselves so I wonder if the captured Coalition member is gonna start changing some minds or if we get all the way up to the flashpoint where 'giant bugs' aren't useful anymore and the Sovereignty starts exterminating them for being different.

i don't see how the prisoner could be changing minds, the bugs are deathly afraid of frenzy and he is seen as the human equivalent of that
i think they'll interrogate him and then dissect his corpse to get a better idea of how human bodies tick
your idea about the sovereignty exterminating them seems too extreme when they can just leave them on their low tech planet, but who knows, paranoia makes people do extreme things

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
A huge conflict is going to arise when aadarsh or the humanities find out about the enslaving jelly and think it's the best thing ever.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Doctor Jeep posted:

i don't see how the prisoner could be changing minds, the bugs are deathly afraid of frenzy and he is seen as the human equivalent of that
i think they'll interrogate him and then dissect his corpse to get a better idea of how human bodies tick
your idea about the sovereignty exterminating them seems too extreme when they can just leave them on their low tech planet, but who knows, paranoia makes people do extreme things


I mean the whole reason humans showed up to the planet and started shooting in the first place was because they were planning on colonizing it. And the only reason they stopped exterminating them was because Hathan was uncomfortable with it/thought they'd be more useful alive.

If that isn't true they are 100% gonna kill em all. Sovereignty is super fasc and you had Aardarsh literally threaten that this chapter.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Zore posted:

I mean the whole reason humans showed up to the planet and started shooting in the first place was because they were planning on colonizing it. And the only reason they stopped exterminating them was because Hathan was uncomfortable with it/thought they'd be more useful alive.

If that isn't true they are 100% gonna kill em all. Sovereignty is super fasc and you had Aardarsh literally threaten that this chapter.


yeah, you're right about all of that
I just don't think there's any chance of the bugs going with the resistance

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

I haven't read further than the first book, but the bugs are still getting limited on the tech they keep by the evil empire, right? And the protagonist is still not happy about being a humanite slave?

I figure that if the Resistance offers to share technology and not hold nuclear obliteration over their heads, bug-friends might at least give that deal some consideration. The main argument against seems to be that their old planet is basically being held hostage, but that seems potentially solvable.

Selkie Myth
May 25, 2013

I'm up for a Stabby for Beneath the Dragoneye Moons! It's SUPER EXCITING!!

And looking at the numbers, I only need about 200 votes to win if this year's a lot like prior years in terms of turnout!

The competition is INSANELY stiff - Guide? Journey of Black and Red? Azarinth Healer? Beware of Chicken? Path of Ascension?

But I have something they don't -

Complete and utter shamelessness when asking my readers to vote for me.

ANYWAYS! I'm super excited that I managed to get nominated in the first place, and I'm sharing it everywhere

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Journey of Black & Red just introduced communists and everyone loves Bi De, so

Oh thank gently caress it's multiple choice

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

Where does one cast these votes? Have not heard of that award before.

The first thing that comes up when I google "stabby awards" is reddit.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/sh1wis/best_of_rfantasy_2021_the_stabby_awards_voting/

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
Azarinth Healer Patreon
What the gently caress. The Mava are adorable. I'd have loved to meet them earlier in the story.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
The ebook version of The Last Tide (the TWI spinoff comic) is out (backers only at the moment I think) and it comes with pirateaba's script for the comic, and... the script is literally a 30k chapter. Pirate just wrote a 30k chapter and that's what the artist turned into the comic.

Argue fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Feb 2, 2022

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Argue posted:

The ebook version of The Last Tide (the TWI spinoff comic) is out (backers only at the moment I think) and it comes with pirateaba's script for the comic, and... the script is literally a 30k chapter. Pirate just wrote a 30k chapter and that's what the artist turned into the comic.
But for her, that was Tuesday.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
The Last Tide: solca is a loving crazy person

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
what is there that's like Delve but with slightly fewer spreadsheets

I enjoy when people try to optimize within systems but reading actual loving spreadsheets is definitely a bridge too far for me

shirunei
Sep 7, 2018

I tried to run away. To take the easy way out. I'll live through the suffering. When I die, I want to feel like I did my best.
Ar'kendrithyst gives off bigly Delve vibes at first, but quickly becomes its own thing. It also side steps the issue of only one thing a year interesting happening in Delve and has a lack of monotonous soulscapes.

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

shirunei posted:

Ar'kendrithyst gives off bigly Delve vibes at first, but quickly becomes its own thing. It also side steps the issue of only one thing a year interesting happening in Delve and has a lack of monotonous soulscapes.

It feels like a different author took over Delve at some point because the soul stuff is a 180 flip from how fast paced and problem/conflict oriented the story was before he started self diving. It updating once a week also means if I want to get anything out of reading the camp segments, I might have to start over because I sometimes forget which camp follower is which because we've been reading him build a blimp in his head for what feels like six freaking months.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Whaleporn posted:

It feels like a different author took over Delve at some point because the soul stuff is a 180 flip from how fast paced and problem/conflict oriented the story was before he started self diving.
I absolutely agree with this, it is night and day from the earlier stuff and it's why I gave up on it.

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?
I can forgive the soulscape, barely, but I'm also getting annoyed that there's like 30 named characters in the camp who we kinda know from 100 chapters ago who are mixed in with people he picked up in the new town and they are all having conversations with Rain where they only are described by name and I'm like 'who is this person?' which means I feel like I'm missing important things from reading.

What's odd about the math spam in delve is that for as many things that are just words on the page, he's shown he knows how to tie it in with the physical reality of the system manifesting. The fire arrow theory crafting that Amelia does in the underground training section actually gets used in a real life situation to solve a problem pretty soon after when they sat down to talk about the math. A lot of the other spreadsheets I don't get a sense of what .6 mana a second is compared to .2 mana a second, aside one is three times as much.

It's why I put up with, as an example, He Who Fights Monsters having insane gear/ability bloat: the author was pretty good at listing a billion skills then using them and having the character describe what they actually do and how they interact in a fight.

This is in contrast to Delve where I get that he's probably going to figure out how to break the leveling system's level caps or learn to infuse monsters with blue energy or something with his soul tinkering, but to the reader it's very boring and hard to imagine, partially because when there's no reality to ground you to. Those segments feel SUPER unimportant because his soul is apparently in a fail state and he's not moving forward or backwards with it. He spends 2 chapters at a time in there over and over and nothing changes as far as we can tell with the rip.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
I was really hoping that finally raising his level cap would be the thing that'd finally wrap up the endless soul introspection that doesn't go anywhere.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
I read litrpgs to get away from a sad whiny dude messing with spreadsheets ho ho ho :smith:

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

Plorkyeran posted:

I was really hoping that finally raising his level cap would be the thing that'd finally wrap up the endless soul introspection that doesn't go anywhere.

Porky pig in a full Hecatomb set, reading Delve: W-w-w-wow! This se-se-segment is s-s-s-s-slow as hell!

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Yeah I gave up on Delve a while back because the author seemed intent on making the story incredibly boring. People bringing up how badly written it became reminded me to go back and leave a review on RR.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

It is weird because the author can write quite well. They would just rather have Rain do nothing for months on end.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Man, people really mad about lack of chicken. I get that it'd be nice to inform readers when there'll be a delay/skip, but ultimately we're getting a bunch of content for free. We ain't entitled to poo poo.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

awesmoe posted:

I read litrpgs to get away from a sad whiny dude messing with spreadsheets ho ho ho :smith:
the fantasy is that they are happy doing so, fellow poster

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

Man, the latest Anaxares bit in Practical Guide to Evil was really nice. I like how they showed that he can have a bit of empathy without at all compromising his principles. Good chapter!

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Cicero posted:

Man, people really mad about lack of chicken. I get that it'd be nice to inform readers when there'll be a delay/skip, but ultimately we're getting a bunch of content for free. We ain't entitled to poo poo.

In general, I agree, but there are more than 4K people paying him more than 16k a month. Some of those people being disgruntled after months of infrequent updates is to be expected.

I’m not on his patreon, so I, personally, don’t mind waiting for more awesome chapters.

Hmm, I just saw he posts BoC updates on QQ as well as RR. I kind of wonder if there have been a bunch of Updates there that weren’t family friendly enough to be posted elsewhere, but I am not brave enough to go check.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

LLSix posted:

In general, I agree, but there are more than 4K people paying him more than 16k a month. Some of those people being disgruntled after months of infrequent updates is to be expected.

I’m not on his patreon, so I, personally, don’t mind waiting for more awesome chapters.

Hmm, I just saw he posts BoC updates on QQ as well as RR. I kind of wonder if there have been a bunch of Updates there that weren’t family friendly enough to be posted elsewhere, but I am not brave enough to go check.

No, there aren't. I think there's like one or two on Patreon from early into the first book, of Jin and Meimei getting marital.

He started off as a QQ poster and I think his original plan was to do more sexy chapters, but the story blew up and/or he realized he was interested in other stuff, so he shifted focus.

On the other hand, there are more flags set up for Mei Mei and Xiulan to eventually smooch it up than there are at the UN building, and this is anyone who doesn't see it:



So I think he's no longer interested in actual sex scenes, but I do think he's interested in teasing us with a will-they-won't-they throuple.

Megazver fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Feb 3, 2022

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

LLSix posted:

In general, I agree, but there are more than 4K people paying him more than 16k a month. Some of those people being disgruntled after months of infrequent updates is to be expected.

I’m not on his patreon, so I, personally, don’t mind waiting for more awesome chapters.

Hmm, I just saw he posts BoC updates on QQ as well as RR. I kind of wonder if there have been a bunch of Updates there that weren’t family friendly enough to be posted elsewhere, but I am not brave enough to go check.

No, he posted an explanation to Patreon. He wrote a chapter and then decided there really needed to be a few more chapters before getting to the events of that chapter so he didn't post it. The general theme of his patreon posts is "holy poo poo I have no idea what I'm doing and the fact that people love my story terrifies me because I have no idea how to live up to your expectations", and there's been a decent number of chapters that he rewrote after posting the initial version on patreon and getting reasonably positive responses. I am continually worried that the stress is going to burn him out.

Peachfart posted:

It is weird because the author can write quite well. They would just rather have Rain do nothing for months on end.

It makes me wonder if he just kinda ran out of ideas and is stalling, or if enough of the people actually paying him love the current arcs and he's just rolling with that.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


delve is weird because it's always ping-ponged back and forth between "holy poo poo lots of stuff going on" and "absolutely nothing is going on" , but the nothing-going-on chapters used to be good because they were spent hanging out with tallheart or whatever. now they, uh, aren't.

Plorkyeran posted:

The general theme of his patreon posts is "holy poo poo I have no idea what I'm doing and the fact that people love my story terrifies me because I have no idea how to live up to your expectations"

you have to admit, this is very Jin

Maguoob
Dec 26, 2012
Missed updates is whatever, but at the very least Beware of Chicken's author does update Patreon with a general message. Some authors just flat out vanish. No message, no nothing, just stop updating. Like they don't need to get into details, just be "Hey I'm having issues and won't be able to write/post more chapters for an unknown amount of time." Though I guess social anxiety can play a big part in to that.

Also I like the person complaining about a certain author deleting reviews and then being all I read the rules. I'm fairly certain that Royal Road isn't going to see mentioning whatever amount someone makes on Patreon as a fair or valid criticism for a review on RR itself. The review has obviously been deleted and I can't go back in read it, but the person has the whole "why have I been banned?" energy when the response from mods is usually like "showing your dick on stream" or "racial slurs".

Ramie
Mar 2, 2021

Has Amber Skies been brought up in this thread yet? I just got into it and I can't believe I don't see more people trumpeting how good it is

quote:

"Oh my daughters! Come quick, come see! You have a baby brother and he is just perfect!"

That was the memory. Crimson eyes and grey limbs staring down at the pathetic fleshy thing in the cradle. It was nothing. A blind deaf digestive tract that could only move by writhing against the hot concrete floor in search of food. Epsilon tried to touch it but it bit her. Mother let it starve. "Oh dear, Oh dear." She said as she watched it shrivel and die, "Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear." The teacher remembered the panic in her mothers voice. She cared, but she didn't know what was wrong. "I suppose he wasn't perfect after all." She said. "I'm sure the next one will be just perfect!"

The next few years were nothing but maggots. Huge, man-sized maggots. Mother tried big ones, small ones, ones with eyes, with ears, with big brains, small brains, tongues, teeth, even voices. Mother liked the voices. Epsilon had noticed that some of them could drink the industrial runoff from the rest of the factory, and pleaded with mother to let them live. "I suppose they can help keep the place tidy. You can have them, but only if you promise to feed them and walk them twice a day!" Epsilon didn't know what mother was talking about, but the maggots were released from the cradle, and that was what mattered to her. The voices did make them useful. Anytime something wandered in to the factory they would raise a long trumpeting cry and fall upon the intruder. They were slow, but there were so, so many of them.

Mother kept iterating. The new broods got stronger, added to the gene pool, and started to eat the old ones. Sucker-mouths gained crushing muscle, so entrails gained a layer of defensive fat. Crushing muscle gained three-pointed jaws, so skin gained a hard keratin armor. Inedible armor gained stomach acid that caught fire when it touched the air. Those soft pathetic things became the sentries, the armored and fire-breathing gastropods that clung to the factory outskirts. Some had hands, fleshy and useless things, the leftovers of some ancient genetic memory that wasn't properly filtered out during gestation. They were easy. Crack the shell and they spill out like water.

"Oh my daughters! Come quick! I think I've just done it! You have a new baby brother and he is just perfect!"

These were bad. Little skinless quadrapeds with too many bones and too many faces. Maybe quadraped was the wrong word. Mother had heard of "legs" but she didn't know what legs were exactly. They had four hands, and the claws grew out of the wrong places. They screamed. They never stopped screaming. By this point mother had learned that she could speed up the process by creating whole broods at once. "Oh dear." said mother, as the little things began to devour each other. "Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear." The teacher remembered the distress in her mothers voice, she almost incinerated the little things. She remembered how her mothers voice trailed off when she realized that there was only one of the little things left. One balanced on its foreclaws that screamed up at the bright bright light until its little belly was full and it was silent. "Not perfect. Not yet. But I'm getting closer!" Said mother. It was mother who gave the thing free reign of the factory. Her daughters were to follow them, observe them, see if they survived. Humans were good at surviving, it would help her make humans again.


quote:

Deeper. The city grew cooler. The first sign of life was a demon. The student spotted it from far away. They hushed the group and pointed to the form keeping low in the bramble of hair along a train track. It seemed to be the same species at the one she met in the tunnels beneath the housing block, but this one was younger, an earlier stage of its life cycle. It was much smaller, only about as big as Nico, lacking the layers of grey leathery nercroflesh, the chitinous bone armor, or the biological wrist blades. It was soft, so pale white it was almost blue. The tiny armblades were barely enough to support its weight and it moved with an awkward hobble. It reminded the sorcerer of a child wearing their mothers heels. The student knew the signs in how it moved, the careful and un-sudden pace of a hunter tracking prey. It had something.

A pale little hand reached out from the bramble of hair. It was connected to a fleshy prehensile arm which dragged the thick fleshy body into the open air. The student recognized it as one of the worm demons. It crawled on its belly, attempting to drag itself as fast as it could from the bramble of hair. It never had a chance. The long wormlike abdomen was still partially hidden by the brush when the hunter-killer fell upon it. It pounced with a tiny snarl, leaping into the air to fall upon its prey with its entire bodyweight, slamming into its soft flesh blades-first. The pierced thing screamed. The student felt the bile rise in her throat. The little thing writhed and spat at its attacker, wads of feeble stomach acid scarred concrete and flesh but the hunter-killer did not relent. The hungry and desperate thing snapped at the screaming fleshy neck over and over again but its tiny mouth was too small to find purchase. So it stabbed. It stabbed over and over and over again, like catharsis, like a tantrum, tiny dull knives into a cut of fatty trash meat like the skinny wrists of a child against the inside of a locker, like an apology, like tears on the lid of a coffin. It cried as it ate.

The student couldn't hold the bile in the her throat. She vomited.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

catgirlgenius posted:

Has Amber Skies been brought up in this thread yet? I just got into it and I can't believe I don't see more people trumpeting how good it is

Ramie
Mar 2, 2021

I AM misrepresenting it just a tad. It is only about 5% earnest horror per pound, give or take. The author is as good at horror as they are at portraying the close emotional bonds that are part and parcel of writing what is basically "the Fellowship of the Ring traveling through Qud".

But horror is punchier.

quote:


It was a grisly scene. A cyborg, a mutant, and a who-knows-what, crouched over a mangled corpse as if they were teenagers on an interrupted road trip, staring at a mysteriously non-functioning engine and doing their best to sound like they do, in fact, know what a carburetor is, what it does, and where it is located. It was a bonding experience. They were bonding.

“Query: liver?“

“Wrong again, its a gallbladder. Teacher has you zero for six.“ Said the student, resigning the gallbladder into an open sterile container full of mysterious liquid.

“You are very bad at this.” Said the teacher, using her foot to draw another tally mark in the dirt.

“Statement: I do not have organs. I am at a disadvantage.“

“Just because you have organs doesn’t mean you’ll know what they’re called.“

“Indeed. It’s not like they come with nameplates.“ said the teacher, nodding.

With a small noise of effort, the Student held aloft another organ.

“Query: Kidney?“

“Lung?“

“Lung. Point Teacher. Aaaand that was the last major organ I could salvage so I think the game goes to Teacher.“

The Teacher made another victorious tally mark in the dirt. “Consider this revenge for your victory at rock-stack.“

The Student took a quick stretch break, rolling her arms and neck. “Head comes next, you done with the brain yet? I don’t want to start unscrewing the implants until the delicate stuff is done.“

“Statement: Nearly. There is very little in the way of information stored here, but the architecture is fascinating. Very efficient. Please ensure that you do not damage it upon removal.”

“Huh. Well get what you can and wipe it when you’re done. I’ll try to save what hardware I can, but its tough to do all this without my right arm.“ She said, waggling the stump.

“Statement: Oh. Right.“

“Something wrong?“

“Statement: To be honest I had forgotten about your arm. I apologize. I did not mean to rush you.“

“Nah don’ worry about it.“

“Confirm: Really?“

“Don’t you worry wirehead, I got a plan.“

The Student winked at the Sorcerer, who did not react. There was a moment where the Student realized that her eye guards were up. She retracted the left one and winked at the Sorcerer, who did not react again. The Student realized that because they could only see one eye, it appeared as if she had only blinked. She retracted both eye shields, and winked a third time. The Sorcerer did not react, because they did not have a face. The Student figured that they got the picture and moved on.

“Yeah its good don’t worry.“

dangit I forgot the link. this concludes my lovesick advertisement

Ramie fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Feb 3, 2022

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

wtf

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

https://youtu.be/6_Vh20RTJOA

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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

LLSix posted:

In general, I agree, but there are more than 4K people paying him more than 16k a month. Some of those people being disgruntled after months of infrequent updates is to be expected.

I’m not on his patreon, so I, personally, don’t mind waiting for more awesome chapters.

Hmm, I just saw he posts BoC updates on QQ as well as RR. I kind of wonder if there have been a bunch of Updates there that weren’t family friendly enough to be posted elsewhere, but I am not brave enough to go check.
Yeah I just meant us RR readers, obviously people who are giving him money every month have a reasonable expectation of transparency. And it sounds like he did give an update there.

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