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at some point they should just recast. the longer it goes on the weirder it'll be when they do it
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Mandrel posted:like Hamill is perfectly capable of doing his young Luke voice and is more than happy to do it is this actually true, ive never heard him do it.
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Feb 5, 2022 00:25
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Mandrel posted:that's so weird. was it a COVID thing or what. like Hamill is perfectly capable of doing his young Luke voice and is more than happy to do it, and he's got to be cheaper than doing that. they even use him on set before doubling him with that kid. why bother doing robot voice? Read what Jerkface wrote right above your post. Beyond that they did it because they could. It's a partial proof-of-concept for that kind of technology. Figure they also did it because Mark Hamill is 70 years old and Carrie Fisher died at age 65. If Hamill is the only one who can voice Luke Skywalker than when he dies, there's no more Luke Skywalker and that doesn't work for Disney.
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Feb 5, 2022 00:28
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Barry Foster posted:Honestly I find the original better. I've not watched much Clone Wars and have no real attachment to the character, but I find the pale, scrunched up, hosed-up monster-looking original version a lot creepier and more threatening (maybe because of the more human proportions?) I mostly agree on that. The quick and dirty "move the mouth lower to match the rubber-suit Duros we've seen in live action" was good, but matching him up to cartoon proportions and palette is both unnecessary and less menacing.
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I would happily take “old man who doesn’t quite sound like young Luke but still has real emotion” over “the cousin of the AI I use at work to write boilerplate marketing copy bullshit” any day. Also, there’s absolutely nothing stopping them from having Hamill do the actual lines and just altering them to sound young in post or whatever.
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Feb 5, 2022 00:33
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I would happily take “old man who doesn’t quite sound like young Luke but still has real emotion” over “the cousin of the AI I use at work to write boilerplate marketing copy bullshit” any day. So say
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I would happily take “old man who doesn’t quite sound like young Luke but still has real emotion” over “the cousin of the AI I use at work to write boilerplate marketing copy bullshit” any day. Unfortunately all the deep fake stuff is here to stay. There is a reason that Disney's "star wars" preamble logo contains a bunch of trade marked helmets and not any of the likenesses of real star wars characters. If disney could develop a believable CGI character that uses a deepfake legally distinct from voice they will do it its amazing technology but capitalism & copyright are hosed so we gonna have to deal with it existing
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Feb 5, 2022 00:35
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What disney would really like to do is entirely remove creatives from the process, and algorithmically generate all future content
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Feb 5, 2022 00:45
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chitoryu12 posted:So far this has come up at least half true, which gives me some ideas of what'll happen with the end of the show. A lot of the stuff that's true is either pretty obvious from trailers (the premise of uniting the gangs) early leaks (Sophie Thatcher's casting and Boba riding a rancor), or existing speculation (Cad Bane showing up). Most of the details about how stuff happens is wrong, as is all the stuff about the other clones showing up, what Din Djarin's involvement is, and who's behind it all.
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Did anyone consider that someone at Disney would have also thought about having Mark Hamill do the voice and then modulating it and figured the AI version was better?
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Feb 5, 2022 00:50
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Jerkface posted:is this actually true, ive never heard him do it. Dude has magic voice cords: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgL8igCdCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onMm0DLg8CE&t=69s
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Dude has magic voice cords: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgL8igCdCc yea i know he is really good at voice acting but this is not "make his own voice 30 years younger" - those 2 you linked 1 is young mark hamill and the other is him impersonating gravely voice harrison ford Jerkface fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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Jerkface posted:yea i know he is really good at voice acting but this is not "make his own voice 30 years younger" Okay, submitted for evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-VHe_4GmE He sounds thirty years younger in this playing himself.
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Feb 5, 2022 01:18
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he sounds like TLJ luke in that
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We’ve known about Hamill AI voice since the BTS for the Mando S2 finale came out. Also Hamill doesn’t do a great young Luke. He did OT era Luke a few years ago for Forces of Destiny and he sounded like an older guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2U_H5dFKH0 Being animation helps here, but in live action, might not fit as well. If they could magic his voice to get him to sound young again, the magicians in the sound team would. 
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Jerkface posted:And I know why they didnt have Hamill read his lines, he sounds old! he is a great voice actor, but he sounds like an old man because he is an old man. Butterfly Valley posted:Did anyone consider that someone at Disney would have also thought about having Mark Hamill do the voice and then modulating it and figured the AI version was better? Yeah I kinda thought this was understood. Mark loves Star Wars and he's clearly willing to show up and do voice acting for bit parts, like he did in Mandalorian, so I doubt it's a matter of nobody inviting him to the party. Even with de-aging tech he probably just doesn't sound like young Luke anymore and why should he? It was 45 years and a car crash ago.
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Anita Dickinme posted:Yeah because somehow she’s Palps grand daughter. "The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."
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Cheesus posted:It was Cad's eyes that severely upset my wife. I had no idea who Cad Bane is, but the moment they showed his eyes I was like Oh poo poo, it's on.
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Feb 5, 2022 01:53
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The real misstep in recreating circa 1986 Mark Hamill is not giving him his iconic mustache.
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Mandrel posted:at some point they should just recast. the longer it goes on the weirder it'll be when they do it Especially because Sebastian Stan is right there, willing, endorsed by Hamill himself, and would be easily universally accepted by fans as TV verse Luke.
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Also, I regret to inform you all, but Max Rebo was (probably) in on it.
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Honestly it's kind of cool to finally know that droids can, in fact, be Jedi.
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NmareBfly posted:Honestly it's kind of cool to finally know that droids can, in fact, be Jedi. Excuse me I think you need to meet a friend of mine named Skippy
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nine-gear crow posted:Also, I regret to inform you all, but Max Rebo was (probably) in on it. That diabolical Max! drat he's good. Speaking of vintage Hamill, that B-movie Midnight Ride was pretty entertaining. Why is there no Star Wars TV this weekend.
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I'll always love Hamill in The Guyver. That poo poo was dope
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Heavy Metal posted:That diabolical Max! drat he's good. Darth Rebo and his Master, Darth Jar-Jar.
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Thundercracker posted:I'll always love Hamill in The Guyver. That poo poo was dope Pedostache and body horror.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The more "in-betweens" we have in official SW canon, the better. Jedi *and* Sith are loving dumb, choosing to keep "tradition" going because they're too set in their damned ways to deviate. This was basically how the Trevorrow script for episode IX ended but nah, let's just have some old bat harass Rey in her own goddamn front yard right in front of her ghost friends
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Feb 5, 2022 03:32
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The Agricultural Corps was always cool in Legends. Just using the force to help cultivate planets and aid in terrarorming projects. Naturally the Jedi saw assignment to the agriculture corps as a sign they were failures.
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Arc Hammer posted:The Agricultural Corps was always cool in Legends. Just using the force to help cultivate planets and aid in terrarorming projects. Caring about one's advancement within the Order is an attachment. Jedi should crave not these things.  ...say someone who's always above the person being admonished about attachment in station. Oh gently caress, the Jedi Order is nothing but Amway with lightsabers. Their temples are *literally pyramids*.
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Robot Style posted:The real misstep in recreating circa 1986 Mark Hamill is not giving him his iconic mustache.  Mark Hamill from 1989 would be the best visage for Luke's Jedi Academy
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Vinylshadow posted:
They kinda went with this look (sans beard) for some of the Japanese New Jedi Order covers. 
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nine-gear crow posted:Especially because Sebastian Stan is right there, willing, endorsed by Hamill himself, and would be easily universally accepted by fans as TV verse Luke. Luke Skywalker is pretty much the only Big Scifi Movie/TV character that hasn't been recast at this point. We're on Spock #3 at this point. Spock!
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*coughs a little* hey Evan, uh, glad we had the chance to talk mano eeee mano, heh. Look I just wanted to make sure you know I'm not trying to replace your dad, but I really like your mom and I'm hoping we can be amigos
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Finally got all caught up on boba. Can never take Cad seriously, he reminds me too much of the stranger from Oddworld.
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Duros are hard to take seriously because they look so much like the stereotypical “little green men” aliens. Put one in a cool evil cowboy getup and it’s even worse. I do enjoy him as a character though.
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I really don't like the idea of deepfake Luke. When it first appeared in Mando S2 the initial novelty was cool, but with the recent episode its worn out its welcome and is weird. The face issue is one thing, but the voice as well takes it to another level. Sure, Hammill no longer sounds like he did as a young man but maybe people should just suspend their drat disbelief a little. An actual performance would be far, far better than a drat algorithm even if its slightly imperfect. After all, its often the imperfections that gives things personality. Or they should just recast, like they should have done with Tarkin. Are they concerned Star Wars fans will complain about their "immersion" if one character is played by two different people? Half the TV series are cartoons, but most people are happy to just accept the fact that in some stories Anakin is played by a dude in live-action, and other times he is animated, and still accept they're both meant to be the same guy.
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Boba fett isnt played by kid boba from the prequels so they should just recast some loving people like star trek has
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nine-gear crow posted:Especially because Sebastian Stan is right there, willing, endorsed by Hamill himself, and would be easily universally accepted by fans as TV verse Luke. Nah, screw that, I really don’t want Stan or anyone else as Luke. Just retire the character and create new ones for new adventures instead of hanging around the same few people in a 40 year period when their stories already had a beginning, middle and end.
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Vinylshadow posted:
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