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Gaius Marius posted:I'm wondering if it comes through more in a newer translation. Terra's dialogue feels very stilted, and it's rare enough that I've forgotten more than once that she isn't a silent Protag. I guess we're just glad she didn't get Locke imprinted on her mind like Fyana That's kind of on purpose. She's lost, haunted by memories that are barely even hers given the brainwashing and mind control and has been left with basically nothing left after she broken free. She's barely holding on to be able to have a conversation right around the time she has another meltdown that triggers her magic half and she learns she's even further from the humanity she's trying to make connections to. So her speech being stilted fits.
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Blockhouse posted:Why are you all still interacting with the poster who insisted on calling Sabin Sabine and then said it had to be a mistranslation when called on it? Eh, they're obviously doing a bit but I'm pretty sure the opinions they're expressing underneath the shitposting are still sincere. Whether or not that's worth responding to is up to the individual, I guess.
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i think the snes tl of ff6 has several errors and limited space compared to the gba-onwards retl, fwiw? never played the snes ver but i feel like the gba ver has more like, lines or smth??? hmm this discussion is making me want to play gba 6 again with the sound patch
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Cattail Prophet posted:Eh, they're obviously doing a bit but I'm pretty sure the opinions they're expressing underneath the shitposting are still sincere. Whether or not that's worth responding to is up to the individual, I guess. I mean it's that or talking about limp bizkit and bullshit, both equal, imo
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Feb 7, 2022 05:18
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Cleretic posted:Personally I think we're too quick to poo poo on people who disagree with the groupthink here, so I'm keen to listen to Gaius keep going. Either they're going to make good points eventually or at some point be interesting. Alternatively, they may just keep digging deeper.
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I love this playthrough with wanton modern eyes, there are no sacred cows, my childhood was simple and simply told, I admit and still cherish it what am I gonna get mad at someone painstakingly enjoying a 30 year old game??? but like, this Gaius Marius posted:Also they should've given you access to Magicite earlier, don't explain what it is, and don't let you use the summon function. Let the Player come to the realization of what it is or not. Then when you get the reveal that "Oh my god it's made of Esper" you can have a shocking moment at what you've done, and a good think about the morality of it. Plus you add another interesting system to gently caress with which helps with how utterly dire the early game is. if you want to talk about tonal whiplash that sure as gently caress would have been it. you can't have the heroes be horrified at the power they're using as a core mechanic. especially in this fuckin' game.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:21
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Why not. They do straight up genocide. Having the party be like. drat should we be doing this isn't that much of a stretch
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Feb 7, 2022 05:23
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Cattail Prophet posted:Eh, they're obviously doing a bit but I'm pretty sure the opinions they're expressing underneath the shitposting are still sincere. Whether or not that's worth responding to is up to the individual, I guess. Yeah, they're actually making something resembling cogent points in a few places. Like, I can actually agree with them that the Sabin/Cyan/Shadow/Gau branch is a tonal rollercoaster that doesn't necessarily stick any of its landings. And for what it's worth, I do think the GBA-onwards VI script is overall better, but you do lose a lot of the famous meme lines. And when we're talking about a game with someone like Kefka, that's actually pretty big as a loss, those lines stuck in our minds for good reasons.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:24
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Gaius Marius posted:Why not. They do straight up genocide. Having the party be like. drat should we be doing this isn't that much of a stretch because that's tonally whiplashtic (which I said!!!) and more importantly boring
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Feb 7, 2022 05:26
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It's hosed up that they aren't thinking about it! Terra is wearing her dad on her neck.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:30
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edgar probably shouldn't be gallivanting about with the party instead of managing his submarining castle because you'd ostensibly think that as the king of Figaro, he should probably do something about the occupation in south figaro
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Gaius Marius posted:It's hosed up that they aren't thinking about it! Terra is wearing her dad on her neck. So... at the point you're at, then you know that the Espers are cool with this. The Magitek Research Facility Espers literally gave themselves to you, that's as morally uncomplicated as it can get.
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Eight-Six posted:edgar probably shouldn't be gallivanting about with the party instead of managing his submarining castle because you'd ostensibly think that as the king of Figaro, he should probably do something about the occupation in south figaro There was an unofficial strategy guide I had that likened all of the city states to world war 2 cities and it was a trip. Wish I could find a copy of it to just read because a lot of it was just very wrong from a gameplay perspective but it was a trip to read. It was this one https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Final-Fantasy-Forbidden-Secrets/dp/1559588004
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Magicite as a game mechanic comes in really late, huh... comparing that to materia or GFs
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Cleretic posted:So... at the point you're at, then you know that the Espers are cool with this. The Magitek Research Facility Espers literally gave themselves to you, that's as morally uncomplicated as it can get. So did Ramuh. The Espers are all on board with this! CharlieFoxtrot posted:Magicite as a game mechanic comes in really late, huh... comparing that to materia or GFs It does, and the early game really can be a drag because of it.
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What about maduin? Anybody ask him? It's loving weird man. Just dragging your parents soul around with you using it to cast cure.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:51
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first of all, maduin teaches fire 2, ice 2, and lit 2, NOT cure,
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Feb 7, 2022 05:52
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look maduin can think of no better fate than helping his daughters friends not die
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Eight-Six posted:first of all, maduin teaches fire 2, ice 2, and lit 2, NOT cure, drat usually dads are against their teenage daughters getting lit.
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Gaius Marius posted:What about maduin? Anybody ask him? It's loving weird man. Just dragging your parents soul around with you using it to cast cure. Maduin's Magicite flew towards you magically, so, yes, he's on board. Why wouldn't he be? Shouldn't you be more wary of, like, Kirin, who only exists in inanimate magicite form? Maduin was pretty clear-cut despite having no lines.
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Cleretic posted:Maduin's Magicite flew towards you magically, so, yes, he's on board. Why wouldn't he be? Maybe Terra has Kirby-like abilities. Her esper form is pink after all.
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Gaius Marius posted:What about maduin? Anybody ask him? It's loving weird man. Just dragging your parents soul around with you using it to cast cure. He willing comes to your aid from beyond the grave through the magicite. It's the opposite of weird. It's a father doing his best to protect his daughter in death that he failed to in life. In fact, basically every magicite you pick up in the story that isn't optional is either given to you under the authority of one of these higher up Espers or comes willingly to try and help you save their friends/the world.
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Not much different than turning your dad's ashes into a diamond if you think about it.
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Booky posted:i think the snes tl of ff6 has several errors and limited space compared to the gba-onwards retl, fwiw? never played the snes ver but i feel like the gba ver has more like, lines or smth??? There’s a series of posts by the Mother 3 translator guy’s blog where he uses a special script to compare the original Japanese/FF3/FF6GBA/crappy fan translation/Google Translate highlights on a stream he does, and yeah the SNES version tends to get stuff wrong in minor ways or omit minor details like why only Mog can talk. https://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/ Imho Woolsey’s style isn’t quite for me outside of SMRPG, like I recognize how influential he is and a lot of the errors are very much on Square Enix and not him, but there’s stuff like “he’d slit his mama’s throat for a nickel” that sometimes feels off in context.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Ultros is just Beatrice but an octopus, sorry. I must have missed the part in FF9 where Beatrice wanted to tentacle bang all the women in the party. Now I'm reminded that Hyadain did a really catchy song about Ultros being a sex pest.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I must have missed the part in FF9 where Beatrice wanted to tentacle bang all the women in the party. Why do you think the majority of Alexandria's military force are women?
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Twelve by Pies posted:I must have missed the part in FF9 where Beatrice wanted to tentacle bang all the women in the party. Seacats Beatrice not FF9
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Twelve by Pies posted:I must have missed the part in FF9 where Beatrice wanted to tentacle bang all the women in the party. It's a shame you missed it; it was a very emotional scene. (also her name is Beatrix).
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kirbysuperstar posted:Seacats Beatrice not FF9 That would explain why her name is spelled differently from FF9's Beatrix.
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This may be controversial, but I think FF9 would be improved if you replaced Beatrix with Ultros. Hell, keep the personality the same. Remove the perviness, have Ultros constantly kicking your rear end, and keep the love story between Steiner and Ultros.
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Or you could replace FFIX Beatrix with Seacats Beatrice. Everyone would immediately believe it was a witch.
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what is Seacats
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The greatest novel ever written
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Ultros in 14 is good, actually.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:what is Seacats Umineko no Naku Koro ni.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:ultros owns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mocwUrcDx6E
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Ultros is dumb-dumb and not Final-Fantasy-dumb so I'm afraid I have to say he sucks poo poo.
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