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The Bee posted:But are these more or less canon than Kars on Mars?
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Funniest Valentine
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My brain always wants to pronounce Jorge Joestar as Horhay Hoestar
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:My brain always wants to pronounce Jorge Joestar as Horhay Hoestar Same. Also, that reminds me of one of my favorite Author's Notes: quote:Apparently, in Italy, they don't use the letter J, except in foreign or obsolete words, so, the name "JoJo" doesn't exist, and would be pronounced something like "yoyo," so for Part 5, starting on Page 71, I stayed faithful to the Italian language and made the main character's name "GioGio."
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Stand User: Yonny Yoestar Stand: The Yanitors
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Stand User: Yonny Yoestar 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:My brain always wants to pronounce Jorge Joestar as Horhay Hoestar I pronounce it with a long i. Yorge Yoestar
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YggdrasilTM posted:Canon is a meaningless construct of the mind. A completely western one too. are you familiar with dragon ball gt
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YggdrasilTM posted:Canon is a meaningless construct of the mind. A completely western one too. The idea that people generally respect works created by the original creator the most and only really pay attention to that being a "western creation" is a hosed up dumbass thing to say. Most people don't Make A Canon, that doesn't mean that they think everything is equally viable all at once.
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mdct posted:The idea that people generally respect works created by the original creator the most and only really pay attention to that being a "western creation" is a hosed up dumbass thing to say. And then there's Fate/...
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I don't see how that's a "hosed up dumbass thing to say" considering the entire idea of canon comes from the idea of biblical canon. The idea has spread since then but the idea of canon is still both meaningless and western in origin. If you've got sources that say otherwise I'm interested.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I don't see how that's a "hosed up dumbass thing to say" considering the entire idea of canon comes from the idea of biblical canon. The idea has spread since then but the idea of canon is still both meaningless and western in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Buddhist_canon
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Beyond religion: there's the heavily delineated Japanese franchises (eg: Gundam) where different works are or are not canon to different continuities in the exact same way that certain Star Wars and Star Trek novels are or are not considered canon. There are shows like Dragon Ball GT and the first Full Metal Alchemist anime which are considered to be noncanon to the primary continuity. There's also comiket and doujinshi and the like where the entire conceit is that they're not produced by the legitimate owners of the franchise -- which is to say that they're not canon works. If you'd prefer a definition of canon in the sense of literary canon, then there's a good four hundred years of Chinese literature during which the Chinese literati have debated the merit of different works in the exact same sense that modern colleges argue which works deserve to be a part of the "American Canon" or "English Canon." You need to engineer an extremely precise and eclectic definition for "canon" for the concept to not plainly apply to the Eastern world. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Feb 7, 2022 |
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I feel like we're treading dangerously close to orientalism here.
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Schwarzwald posted:Beyond religion: there's the heavily delineated Japanese franchises (eg: Gundam) where different works are or are not canon to different continuities in the exact same way that certain Star Wars and Star Trek novels are or are not considered canon. There are shows like Dragon Ball GT and the first Full Metal Alchemist anime which are considered to be noncanon to the primary continuity. huh, well, okay
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Electric Phantasm posted:Funniest Valentine 
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ty I sourced it directly from google image search and carefully resized and recolored it in photopea, it's what funny would have wanted
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On the subject of fan works, my favorite non-canon fan comic is the one about what if Dio succeeded in his original plan of using the stone mask on Jonathan. You can tell that they thought a fair amount about how differently the situation would play out while also showing how things would still end up bringing together the cast of Phantom Blood one way or another. It's told from Dio's, Jonathan's, Speedwagon's, and Baron Zeppeli's views of the same central events leading up to the Joestar mansion burning down and it's just all around a good comic worth a read if you are interested in some more Phantom Blood stuff. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - 'Till we Eternally Rest https://mangadex.org/title/b513ebdf-7c18-49d1-b537-bec9a3b7498a
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Thanks for linking that, I'm really enjoying this and it's really well done! This was a great call-forward: 
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Gundam is religion actually
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Schwarzwald posted:Extremely good post that fully explains it The most ridiculous thing about the statement of "the idea of canon was invented in the western world" is entirely based off that, yes, the word is based on the term as it's applied to religion, but it has absolutely 120% expanded outward from that origin and to insist that it has not is absurd.
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FirstAidKite posted:On the subject of fan works, my favorite non-canon fan comic is the one about what if Dio succeeded in his original plan of using the stone mask on Jonathan. You can tell that they thought a fair amount about how differently the situation would play out while also showing how things would still end up bringing together the cast of Phantom Blood one way or another. It's told from Dio's, Jonathan's, Speedwagon's, and Baron Zeppeli's views of the same central events leading up to the Joestar mansion burning down and it's just all around a good comic worth a read if you are interested in some more Phantom Blood stuff. This was very good, thank you for sharing.
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and then the pillar men successfully took over the world with no one to stand in their way
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:and then the pillar men successfully took over the world with no one to stand in their way Without Dio around, Dire and Straights would have lived and teamed up with Baron Zeppeli to raise their families and keep the Pillar Men in check, and it's entirely likely that this universe could lead to the most powerful pillar man being Santana since he would have been over in Mexico.
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FirstAidKite posted:Without Dio around, Dire and Straights would have lived and teamed up with Baron Zeppeli to raise their families and keep the Pillar Men in check, and it's entirely likely that this universe could lead to the most powerful pillar man being Santana since he would have been over in Mexico. If they discover Santana first and he dies before anyone learns about the Piller Men in Rome then the stage is set for a very different and very hilarious Part 5 I have no idea what happens to the Part 3 Stand users without Dio around, most of them probably end up working for Diavolo zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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Without Dio there is no diavalo, kira, or pucci.
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Stairmaster posted:Without Dio there is no diavalo, kira, or pucci. Diavolo would still exist and still get his stand and run the mafia. He'd still have the arrow (I forget if he sold them to Enya, if he bought one from Enya, or if they both got them from the same supplier) so Italy would still be silly with stand users. Kira would still get his stand from the arrow his dad got from Enya. Keicho wouldn't have the motive to experiment with the arrow since his father wouldn't have been exposed to the flesh bud so Angelo probably would remain imprisoned and thought to be the only serial killer in town. Pucci would still get involved with all the poo poo related to Weather so chances are Weather would for real die to the KKK lynching squad and Pucci would still have his foot deformity. Pucci would still gently caress poo poo up trying to justify his actions to himself but he wouldn't have access to a stand or any of Dio's info. Spoiling my fanfiction hypotheticals ftw lol zetamind2000 posted:I have no idea what happens to the Part 3 Stand users without Dio around, most of them probably end up working for Diavolo A good amount of part 3 users were born with stands or were mercenaries. In a way, it'd be entirely possible that the group would still form somehow. You've got Polnareff on a revenge mission and seeking out J. Geil, Avdol is already in Egypt, Kakyoin is visiting Egypt with his family, and Jotaro and Joseph wouldn't exist. Iggy and Avdol likely wouldn't have met so he's left in America being king of the dogs. Everyone else naturally ends up around Egypt, Enya has definitely been to Egypt, so J. Geil has also probably been to Egypt, so a trio of Avdol, Kakyoin, and Polnareff could find themselves dealing with a bunch of mercenaries Enya paid off to protect her son/avenge her son. e: and that's ignoring if Jonathan merged with Dio to bring him back to life. If that happened, they could end up in an inverse of how Dio and Jonathan are merged in part 3 so Jonathan's stand would be the main one with Dio's time stop as a small tertiary thing. Maybe. FirstAidKite fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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Pucci probably wouldn't go nuts without DIO to gently caress up his head with gravity talk.
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[Gravity] is fake because Giorno didn't show up in Florida  This is a joke
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hatty posted:JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Manga Thread - have no clue what was going on with the piss The power of my Stand, [R. Kelly]!
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There's someone out there with a Stand named [GARY GLITTER] wishing the arrow had just killed them instead.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:There's someone out there with a Stand named [GARY GLITTER] wishing the arrow had just killed them instead. This is just Alessi again.
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Stairmaster posted:people name their stands op Spice Girl named herself and technically Avdol named Star Platinum EDIT: Also not sure if Notorious B.I.G. and Cheap Trick were named by their users considering their nature. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Stairmaster posted:people name their stands op jotaro named crazy diamond
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Granted, that part wasn't shown in the anime, so Josuke just suddenly starts calling it Crazy D out of nowhere.
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