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Hipster Occultist
Aug 16, 2008

He's an ancient, obscure god. You probably haven't heard of him.


I enjoyed it. I'm not about to claim that it's high art or anything, but it was a fun ride while I killed an hour at work. :shrug:

Maybe I'm just a sucker for Rancors and black lightsabers.

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lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

gonna do a sick spin before shooting these guys standing right in front of us

Zebulon
Aug 20, 2005

Oh god why does it burn?!

lumpentroll posted:

gonna do a sick spin before shooting these guys standing right in front of us

Mod dude just needed to be extra for the shoot out and I salute his choice to do so.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



I wasn't expecting much and I was still disappointed.

banned from Starbucks posted:

This was thoroughly embarrassing on almost every level. What was even the point of this?

:hmmyes:

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

nine-gear crow posted:

Same. Star Wars has become to me the equivalent of like drinking an entire 2 litre bottle of Coke in a single day: it feels good in the moment, and then you feel sick and miserable after digesting it later because it’s empty and actually very bad for you to continue consuming it.

I never considered myself a hardcore SW fan, although I was kinda back in the OG, collecting the toys, finally getting a blue Snaggletooth etc., but it kinda faded with the prequels when „show, don‘t tell“ no longer was the foundation of SW. Since then, I mostly enjoy the computer games (X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Jedi Knight series etc.)

And as someone who digs stuff like Doom: Eternal (story telling that completely, 100% doesn‘t take itself serious) I love such episodes. And this episode was exactly the stuff I expected from Rodriguez way earlier during the show, but I assume it‘s all a budget thing.

Just give me stupid simple science fiction warrior gunslinger western eastern samurai stuff with an actual reference to King Kong. Give me WH40K stuff, and I‘ll giggle for hours.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

lumpentroll posted:

gonna do a sick spin before shooting these guys standing right in front of us

Obviously he was trained by the prequel Jedi, who loved their pointless spins and flips

He's gonna headbutt someone in Boba S2 and his eyepiece is actually a lightsaber emitter mark my words

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Finale thoughts: Not as good as the high water marks of the show, but not as bad as the worst of this series. Somewhere inbetween. Some really cool stuff (like the initial surprise attack on the pykes with their jetpacks, just 2 mandos showing off their gun katas) but also some really cringe stuff too (the endless waves of pykes just shooting in the open, the incredibly non-threatening droids). The rancor and boba riding it were really cool. Fennec murking all the crime heads was cool (though her going up the stairs hard cut to the next scene was weird...). Everything with Mando was great, especially him being so fervently obsessed with his gun religion even after being excommunicated that he is willing to die with Boba to uphold his faith.

The stuff I liked in the show: A lot of the small touches & scenes, like how hopping the casino was - it felt real and lived in, how many more droids Peli Motto had and how her hanger feels truly star wars, the stuff with the tuskens was great, all the mando stuff obviously, Krrsantan owned, Episode 4 was probably the best of "boba fett doing boba fett things" - episode 2 was the best of "boba fett doing western schtick things" - Timmy O's Cobb Vanth was the best "westerny" stuff in the show & Cad Bane was great. All the aliens & costumes & VFX of the cities were great. The droids were all stupendous.

Stuff that was not great: The entire plot structure, the pointless nature of the gang war, no real motivation for Boba to hate spice (????), boba fett just not having a lot of stuff to chew on in the show, no arc for fennec

Final thoughts on this show: Overall a kind of pointless endeavor, that really showed its seams at times - definitely a show made by random chance during a pandemic. If I could get them to remake this show, I'd ask them to please focus on the characters more. Boba Fett can shut up and speak less, but give him and Fennec more to do than wander around, and Fennec more to do than exposit the current state of Mos Espa's crime families. There was a glimmer of some good stuff in there, and overall what "happened" could have also happened in a good show but with the other junk changed around a bit. I would have liked Fennec to have had some kind of arc or character growth. I would have liked it if the show was structured more like a story and less like a loose collection of things happening around Boba Fett. Cad Bane should have been in this poo poo from the jump, just menacing Boba & reminding him of his past. They could have built a satisfying story around Bane & Boba - one man clinging to a hired killer life well past his prime, the other trying to grow beyond it. It could have culminated in Cad taking the pyke job against his former protege because "killings all we're good at" and "the jobs the job, nothing more, nothing less" - ending with Boba proving his own way is superior by defeating Cad and the pykes.

Mando S1 and S2 are like A shows for me. This is like a C+.

Will be glad to get on to Mando S3 and other poo poo instead of this.


Edit: ALso BOY Did all the leakers get loving shown up big time on this show - almost nothing that "leaked" showed up in this show. No young Han, no ben solo, no bossk, no dengar, no ig-88, no zuckess or 4lom, no qira & crimson dawn connection, no bigger ST connections other than Luke & his temple.

Jerkface fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Feb 9, 2022

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

The best episode of Boba Fett's show didn't even have him in it

Still enjoyed this little "where are they now?" side story and now begins the wait for Bad Batch S2, Ahsoka S1, Andor S1, Kenobi S1, Mando S3 and good lord why are there suddenly so many Star Wars shows now

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
A title crawl explaining the Mando parts of the series in Mando S3 would have been a lot cheaper to make than creating an entirely new series just to not have to get bogged down with this stuff in a good show.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Hipster Occultist posted:

Maybe I'm just a sucker for Rancors and black lightsabers.
It just means you like Star Wars!

Unlike a lot of posters in this thread.

Ethics_Gradient
May 5, 2015

Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.
I'll echo that I don't find BoBF to be as consistently excellent as The Mandalorian, but it's still fine. I just kinda laugh when I read the hyperbolic takes; sure, it could be better, but it's not terrible or anything, and I'd be happy to watch another season if they decide to go that route. Solid C+/B- overall from me.

lumpentroll posted:

gonna do a sick spin before shooting these guys standing right in front of us

See, I had him pegged in my mind as Tatooine dandy Nick Kygrios* so this actually worked A-OK for me.

*An Australian tennis player known for his flashy, chaotic style (and temper tantrums).

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
A lot of not great action in an action-heavy finale, especially relating to the giant underwhelming droids.

Also felt like there was a big of a scale mismatch between the giant sprawling city seen in the aerial shots and the size of the fight, especially on Boba's side.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
i'm the ren faire music

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

As much as super droidekas were cool, it would have been way better if actual CIS droids were used to play on Mando childhood trauma although I guess that was already covered by Dark Troopers...

There is a hint on a nice theme of rural vs urban in the mod girl and the Freetown lady cooperating but it came from nowhere and is not earned, probably a victim of a script revision


Krrsantan kicks rear end

Whole season was wrecked by bad direction, save for flashbacks and Bryce Dallas Howard episode - the stilted acting and floaty action beats highlighted the script issues.

No more desert planets later please.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS
Reviewing the entire season, I think it would have ultimately worked better if they'd introduced Cad Bane earlier and focused more on the history/rivalry between him and Boba Fett that is implied, while saving the Mandalorian/Grogu/Jedi stuff for S3 of The Mandalorian.

Boba Fett's character development basically vanished half-way through the season without ever culminating in anything. It was paced poorly with the way the flashbacks were structured, and would probably have worked better if they had just focused the first three episodes entirely on his childhood-flashbacks and time with the Tuskens, and not tried to move the post-Mandalorian plotline forward at the same time.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
As a quick reaction to the episode and the series as a whole, I enjoyed it. No, it didn’t hit the highs of Mandalorian, but it was entertaining and had good moments. That’s the main thing I was looking for and it achieved that.

It defiantly had flaws, like Jennifer Beals’ character being underused and ultimately irrelevant, the Tuskens being done away with rather quickly and offscreen to boot, basically stuff that I wish could have been fleshed out more or had more important over the course of the show, not to mention the title character basically not being involved in two of the seven episodes, which basically served as setting up Mando season 3. Still, it was solid enough Star Wars stuff for me, and that’s fine.

Although it felt kinda definitive to me, I kinda hope Cad Bane isn’t dead so he can go up against Cobb Vanth at some point in whatever they’re inevitably setting up with him. I think they’ll keep him dead here, and maybe he’ll show up again in Bad Batch or one of the other shows set earlier, but keeping him alive in this timeframe would have been interesting.

Also, we needed more Danny Trejo: Rancor Trainer.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




fartknocker posted:

Although it felt kinda definitive to me, I kinda hope Cad Bane isn’t dead so he can go up against Cobb Vanth at some point in whatever they’re inevitably setting up with him. I think they’ll keep him dead here, and maybe he’ll show up again in Bad Batch or one of the other shows set earlier, but keeping him alive in this timeframe would have been interesting.

His chest armor was beeping and flashing so I'm pretty sure he's not dead

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

banned from Starbucks posted:

RIP to the 2 real ones. Miss ya pig guys. Should have killed the horrible mod kids instead

Boba didn't deserve them :smith:

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

banned from Starbucks posted:

RIP to the 2 real ones. Miss ya pig guys. Should have killed the horrible mod kids instead

yeah seriously. they are just so out of place

i thought it was fine overall. like yeah it wasn't perfect but it's decent star wars.

baby yoda stole the show, that last scene was just so wholesome. i did laugh at luke not even bothering to drop him off though, he's one of the most special creatures in the galaxy and luke sends him off alone to a desert hell planet

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Necrothatcher posted:

His chest armor was beeping and flashing so I'm pretty sure he's not dead
Would have been fun to see a post credits scene with the same modder who was working on Vanth later working on Bane in Toscbe Station.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem
robert rodriguez directing a good episode. i cant believe it.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

lumpentroll posted:

gonna do a sick spin before shooting these guys standing right in front of us

My man thinking he's in Max Payne at the end

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GokuGoesSSj69
Apr 15, 2017
Weak people spend 10 dollars to gift titles about world leaders they dislike. The strong spend 10 dollars to gift titles telling everyone to play Deus Ex again

Kill All Cops posted:

robert rodriguez directing a good episode. i cant believe it.

Whaaaaaat? Huh, yeah that was a good episode. I declare the mods kids are cool now too.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Most important classes at Jedi Academy this term:

i) Droid Crushing
ii) Animal Husbandry
iii) Lightsabre Duelling CANCELLED
iv) Force Jumping


Overall, you really can't call this series good but it did have fun moments, there were some nice ideas here and there, and it was neat seeing Krrsantan and Cad Bane pop up in live action. Steph Green and Bryce Dallas Howard's episodes were so much better than any of the others, Robert Rodriguez remains disappointing but really, the script/plotting is where the real blame lies. As for Boba, I'm actually down with him wanting to be a better, more chill guy in his old age but drat, he really should put Fennec in charge because she's MVP. Hopefully Din's gonna rub off on him on the Mandalorian side of things and he'll get more involved when it's time to go back to Mandalore.

RIP Sandlady, she was too cool to ice off screen

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Sentinel Red posted:

Most important classes at Jedi Academy this term:


"Can Jedis gently caress?":iiam:

Sentinel Red posted:

RIP Sandlady, she was too cool to ice off screen

who

Septimius
Aug 23, 2006

Tatooine sure has strong walls, the Empire should have built their ships out of it.

The giant completely ineffective robots were also very polite not firing when it's time for the characters to talk

Overall I like the show, the Tusken stuff was the highlight in my opinion and the Jedi stuff was uninteresting. Oh, and the British Armin Tamzarian actress was pretty bad.

EDIT: I'd like to see Boba as more of an anti-hero next season, as opposed to a kindly neighbourhood watchman. Maybe they could take a bit more time writing and planning and they could iron out the kinks.

Septimius fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Feb 9, 2022

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Jerkface posted:

Edit: ALso BOY Did all the leakers get loving shown up big time on this show - almost nothing that "leaked" showed up in this show. No young Han, no ben solo, no bossk, no dengar, no ig-88, no zuckess or 4lom, no qira & crimson dawn connection, no bigger ST connections other than Luke & his temple.

I don’t pay attention to that stuff at all, but I thought someone posted in this thread (Or maybe the main Mando one) that a few aspects of it did leak or had been previously rumored but it wasn’t clear they were for Book of Boba Fett, like Mando getting the modified N1 starfighter, Boba getting and riding a rancor, Cobb showing up again, and maybe a few other things that happened.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

I like this show and enjoyed the finale. It's cheesy as hell, but it's Star Wars. It's supposed to be. I did notice Black Krrsantan healed up awfully quick during the Droid escape.

Also, when Cad Bane used his flamethrower all I could think was "Rancors ill Iike fire, m'lord!"

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~
chekov's rancor

chekov's cockpit bubble

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

banned from Starbucks posted:

RIP to the 2 real ones. Miss ya pig guys. Should have killed the horrible mod kids instead

If only Boba had invested some of his treasure in buying a couple of loving guns for them.

They were each worth a hundred stupid mod kids.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


God drat I think this last episode sealed it for me and I hate this show start to finish now.

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Grogu force-jumping into Mando’s arms got an audible “awwww” from me

I teared up when this happened. It was so wholesome and I was so happy.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



lol fennec hanging the mayor, complete with neck snapping sound, was cold as ice

no idea how you watch that ep and not have fun. star wars is fun

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Doctor Spaceman posted:

A lot of not great action in an action-heavy finale, especially relating to the giant underwhelming droids.

Also felt like there was a big of a scale mismatch between the giant sprawling city seen in the aerial shots and the size of the fight, especially on Boba's side.

Scorpenek annihilator droids. According to wookipedia:

quote:

In the later stages of the Clone Wars, Republic forces launched an attack on Colla IV, where a single annihilator droid took out three of the four platoons of clone troopers that had been advancing on the shielded factory.

A single annihilator could decimate a dozen AT-TEs and make them nothing more than smoking husks. Not surprisingly, these droids struck fear into their enemies' hearts, and turned the tide in the battles at Palanhi and Formos to score Separatist victories.

Chasing people down in the street, less than 20m away and they were still shooting at walls and even the ground nowhere near anybody.

I'm guessing the Pikes never bothered calibrating their guns after buying them because, holy poo poo, even for a Star Wars enemy they were bad shots.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Megillah Gorilla posted:

If only Boba had invested some of his treasure in buying a couple of loving guns for them.

They were each worth a hundred stupid mod kids.

dude should have been giving them S tier gear instead of letting them run around naked all the time.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I am glad it's over. I remember with Mando S1 everyone kept saying "it's like a video game. he's getting motivations and fighting and progressing towards a goal and getting new skills and equipment and overcoming adversaries!" and rolling my eyes, but gently caress this episode really was video gamey. Just watching someone play some kind of Dynasty Warriors/COD Zombies Horde Mode with the occasional in-engine cutscene stakes raiser miniboss.

It had moments but poo poo, the pacing was bad, the setups were either never paid off or paid off in stupid ways. They introduce all these characters and put up a veneer of politicking and backbiting but it was more or less a straight and utterly predictable throughline.

I never once really related to the Boba Character, never bought his motivation, and they never really sold the these are my people I must protect them thing well. I guess that's what telling Stapler Guy to discount his water was supposed to convey? Eh.

It was a story that didn't really need to be told, told badly. At least all of the Boba Fett stuff.

I wonder if it stings Temura a bit to be kind of the Mr. Cunningham upstaged hard core by Mando's Fonzie on his own show.



E: Also piggy-backing on the last two comments yeah I know sometimes things happen for story beat reasons and not everything is a TACTICAL REALISM PUZZLE to solve, but holy poo poo they were not using their resources very effectively. Sure just send the Mod Queen into a force-on-force battle with a holdout blaster.

Hey, guys, you have an incredibly fast starfighter and a powerful gunship you could use for CAS. At least throw a fig leaf over it "too much collateral damage" or whatever (though that would be a joke).

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 9, 2022

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Scorpenek annihilator droids. According to wookipedia:

Chasing people down in the street, less than 20m away and they were still shooting at walls and even the ground nowhere near anybody.

I'm guessing the Pikes never bothered calibrating their guns after buying them because, holy poo poo, even for a Star Wars enemy they were bad shots.

I felt the same way like even a person who’s never fired a gun before should have at least hit one person with all those people that literally took up the entire street.

But the calibration thing could be a good take.

Anita Dickinme fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Feb 9, 2022

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
Star Wars just has the worst gun combat by a large margin. Everything from stupid tactics to how variable each gun's power is. I really wish RR played like an afternoon of Fortnite with his kids or something to make it remotely believable.

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BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
I didn't dislike this finale or anything -- pretty much most things happened that I expected -- but it definitely highlighted how much of Star Wars' writing process has begun to hang on duct tape and prayers.

I like that Grogu chose to be with Din instead of Luke, but it really feels like that whole plot should have happened in Mando s3; the whole process happened a bit too quickly. As someone said earlier upthread, it should have felt a bit more like Luke leaving Yoda to help his friends on Cloud City. But what happened instead, basically, was that we took all of season 2 to return Grogu to the Jedi path, including at least two or three "narrative checkpoints" where Grogu himself chose to continue on this path when he could have refused the call.......and then here we spend ten minutes of him being a Jedi student and then going "Lol nah I don't wanna anymore." I understand that Luke gave him that important ultimatum but that Din and Grogu's relationship is more developed now due to their choices but...still, narratively, it feels a bit like "Well what was all of season 2 for, then?"

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