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41 deaths today and 109 new hospitalisations. You know that Omicron is really mild.
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yoloer420 posted:Thank gently caress that covid infection provides lasting and effective immunity.
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Dreylad posted:we had to go through the same thing with everyone wanting to see the new baby, but fortunately all the grandparents want to prioritize her safety first. Is there stock COVID shut-in rules to share with family re: a new kid somewhere? Given the joy of reading about stillbirths and crunchy placentas, I'd really rather not let any family see my pregnant wife, but the fallback is going to have to be strict requirements about PCR testing and N95-wearing. But I'm sort of ruing having to draft it myself along with all the research to cite that they are still going to try and ignore.
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Ice Phisherman posted:I'd hate to point out the obvious, but reinfection is not rare. People are getting reinfected within around six weeks of clearing the last infection when it comes to omicron reinfections as well as omicron variants. I have a friend that despite being careful has caught covid three times now: Covid classic, delta and recently omicron. Not careless. Just unlucky with a girlfriend who had a lovely, high risk job despite masking who brought it home the last time. great post but imho when you refer to “them” it doesn’t vibe with me. the causes of our misery are structural; you could chop the head of the current hydra and we’d continue on with social murder. ok granted if you somehow managed to instantly delete the 1% I think some things would change for the better, but we’d then have a new 1% who are probably structurally incentivized to continue on with social murder. maybe when you’ve blendered through the top ~20% things would meaningfully change, but then I’d be dead, and that sounds bad for me, so I reject this proposal, and also I think it’d be ultimately futile — we’d end up with an egalitarian generation followed by reactionary excess followed by delusional grandeur and back to square 1. need to change the system to escape the cycle. despite my whinging, your prescriptive advice
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Weaponized Autism posted:never realized a pandemic can be over so fast! This morning I learned that Mike DeWine is now withdrawing the national guard from hospitals. They had a big propaganda piece where all the nurses were clapping as they left, and talking about how great it was they were there. I think they were there for maybe about a month.
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GXL posted:I said that I'd post a review of my throat microphone and speaker setup once it came in the mail. Here's what I've been using for the last week and change: Thanks for this. So far people don't have trouble with me over the phone or other voice, but did have a friend I ran into outside say they struggled badly to understand me. It's possible I just need to adjust my outdoor voice to compensate for the elastomeric but if that fails I know which post to read.
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Testvan posted:even Open Biden is saying it Ah, but he also said that there’s no federal solution, and that it has to be a states rights issue! Throwing the molten, radioactive potato to the smaller guys means that he’s fine sitting there saying “oh no don’t do that but I can’t stop you.” When all this blows up in our faces and kills someone you care about and makes it so it’s hard for you to raise your hands above your waist, remember that there was nothing the president could have done because he said so, and make sure to use your precious moments of strength to to lift up that pen and vote for him. The other guy would probably be really bad.
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Iron Crowned posted:
Tuxedo Mask meme
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Koirhor posted:Tuxedo Mask meme how long until National Guard starts working as Walmart or Costco greeters?
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Chad Sexington posted:Is there stock COVID shut-in rules to share with family re: a new kid somewhere? I’ve found the rules to be pretty simple to communicate: “We aren’t seeing anyone who doesn’t live with us right now. No, it’s not up for discussion.” I’ve always taken a no bullshit stance with my family and set really clear boundaries though. We did let my parents stay for us for a few weeks after the baby was born. I made them get a booster and quarantine upon arrival, then used a mix of masks and air purifiers at home. This was during delta when we were max titers from boosters. I would not do the same now during Omicron.
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Chad Sexington posted:Is there stock COVID shut-in rules to share with family re: a new kid somewhere? make everyone be vaccinated and boostered make everyone get a test before they can see you have everyone wear an N95, and have them wear it properly no taking it off under any circumstances do it outdoors if possible, or in a well-ventilated room otherwise (windows are open, fans are going; or a Corsi cube) limit the interaction. I'd do no more than 15 minutes but there's really no way to quantify this besides shorter=better ideally they'd also be masked in the days and weeks preceding their visit, especially if they're flying to you, but again, it's not something you can control, so you kinda have to snoop their social media or know how they've been behaving during the pandemic to get an understanding of how likely they are to catch COVID before they come to you and I wouldn't even bother trying to come up with articles and citations justifying why you need to do this. Tell them that this is what you expect, and if they're not willing to abide by it, that it doesn't happen having said all that, she's pregnant and it's a pandemic. I would avoid taking any chances at all.
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I loving love this thread. When my mom told me her boyfriend tested positive, my brain broke in half. They're both immunocompromised, and my mom is a really sweet and forgetful lady who once tried to comfort my climate change anxiety with "Biden will fix it, sweetheart!" My dear, vulnerable, bunny-turned-human mother who just wants to see the sunny side of things, who hand sewed me an apron with heart-shaped pockets, who has trouble remembering if she took her medicine or missed a doctor appointment today is stuck in a windowless apartment with Typhoid Mary and her survival depends on how well she can adhere to airborne disease prevention protocols she just learned about secondhand from her idiot daughter (that's me!) So when I heard her boyfriend is sick, I wanted to cry and burst into flames, because I thought she'd never listen to me the way no one ever listens to me, because no one likes a Cassandra and I can't help myself. I thought I'd be met with resistance, tears, and arguments when I told her how many people are really dying, that there's no lasting immunity, the cloth masks don't work well and they knew at the start, on and on. She was actually receptive to all of it which means she must be seeing enough for it to form cracks in the illusion propaganda built for her. She was just as heartbroken to hear all this as I have been knowing it. And while it wasn't GOOD it was cathartic in a way I can't describe. I know I can't protect my family but I feel like I'm giving them tools to protect themselves, and that's not nothing. Despite being in a small windowless apartment with a positive partner, she's still negative ~10 days out. They're wearing N95s inside, they use separate bathrooms and don't mingle together. She said she thought if she were going to get it she surely would have by now, and I said NO it doesn't work that way, please keep being cautious because that's why you are not sick! She says "oh? Oh, of course!" And she's sticking to it, or seems to be. From the valuable information posted ITT to the emotional support, this thread unironically saves lives and y'all are loving wonderful. Thank you. (And forgive the rambling, I'm not all the way awake and full of feelings)
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actionjackson posted:the cheapest miele induction cooktop I could find was 2300 lol. that's more than my range (cooktop+oven), microwave and dishwasher combined when did you get your other stuff we had to replace a dishwasher and fridge during corona and they were $2200 and $1400, respectively. Similar models would have been 30-40% cheaper 2-3 years earlier I believe.
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from a thousand pages ago but whateverZugzwang posted:When I initially tried this back in 2006, I was being so militant about it that I'd like, check food labels for sodium lactate. Can't do that again for my own sanity. for what it's worth modern sodium lactate is non dairy. in the event it actually is, current allergen warnings require a dairy label on the ingredients.
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Iron Crowned posted:
Yeah listening to NPR this morning would give you the impression that this is completely over and no one is getting sick.
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https://twitter.com/realLandsEnd/status/1493201804338814979?s=20&t=fczlanLSRItwmJE8I4d0wA
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gradenko_2000 posted:make everyone be vaccinated and boostered This is correct. No interaction is the best interaction, but if there absolutely has to be something, set extremely clear and inflexible rules and be willing to tell them to gently caress off if the rules aren’t followed to the letter. Explanations are useless, they just invite the other party to try to pick them apart, which will almost inevitably lead to a situation where they’re saying “but dr google, the famous epidemiologist, said it was fine to go to a restaurant last night because we tested negative before that” or whatever terrible thing when they show up at your door. Your terms are your terms, anyone that doesn’t agree to those terms should save the money and stay home, and don’t be scared to tell them to go home after they already spent the money if they’re not holding up their end of the agreement. Your family’s well-being is a lot more important than these people wanting to visit their grandkid before the kid is even out in the world, and it is not your responsibility to make them believe that you’re right before they can be told to not show up. This isn’t debate club, it’s the two human lives that you care most about in the most fragile state they’ve ever been in. Behave accordingly.
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3 people quit over the weekend from the preschool program. Things are barely running at this point. Edit: I should clarify that I get it. The pay is poo poo and there are no benefits. The public health nurse is also out because she slipped on some ice.
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SMH. No one wants to work anymore.
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Real Mean Queen posted:It reminds me of last year when breakthroughs were starting to show up and the official line was “no they aren’t, shut up.” People are so desperate for this to be a clear cut situation where the virus can’t do some things, and all those things are the things that are covered by being vaccinated and maskless. It’s going to keep being “well you can’t catch it twice though” until everyone is on round three or four, and then there’ll be some good news about how that’s actually very safe. Until then, you can’t catch it twice, even if you did. It's bad enough we're living through some of the doomier outcomes initially envisioned about the pandemic. It's made worse that the default assumption is a given bad outcome is impossible until the evidence becomes irrefutable. People assumed without real evidence that vaccine immunity was going to be durable, reinfections rare, and that the virus couldn't effectively evolve around vaccine antibodies. At each step overwhelming evidence was required to refute these assumptions instead of the opposite. It's terrible that the null hypothesis is always "the bad outcome won't happen so we don't need to do anything proactive". It probably won't take long for the public and health authorities to admit that reinfections aren't uncommon, as they're already happening with just the Omicron variant and the likely upcoming BA.2 wave will make it undeniable. However the next step will be the most dangerous IMO, as the argument will be that getting reinfected every 4 months is actually ok and mild if you're vaccinated. It will take time for whatever health impacts of repeated infections to become clear, and there will be a lot of social pressure to downplay their significance. In this light the push for normalcy and to abandon NPIs + testing over the past week has been especially concerning, as it's a clear signal the assumption will be repeated COVID infections are not a big deal going forward. Not even sure that will ever be effectively refuted, as the implications are so bad given the virus is everywhere. Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Sex Arse of Calais posted:I loving love this thread. You’re lucky to have a mom like that, and she’s lucky to have a daughter like you. Good work.
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Greg Legg posted:3 people quit over the weekend from the preschool program. Things are barely running at this point. I like how politicians like Sleepy Joe did the whole let's open up and find out what happens? Completely ignoring all reality in hopes that it would confirm to WH PR spin.
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This belongs in the i hate cars thread but they skipped plowing most of the sidewalks after the last storm and there was a melt followed by a snap freeze. Sidewalks are so icy there is no question it's going to kill some olds
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:This belongs in the i hate cars thread but they skipped plowing most of the sidewalks after the last storm and there was a melt followed by a snap freeze. Sidewalks are so icy there is no question it's going to kill some olds got me on friday. i fell and banged up my wrist. spent an hour in the hospital waiting for the xray machine including twenty minutes of "oh hmm all the rooms are full, well, ok wait in this tiny room with this rando for a bit". fun times. got to see cars zip by on the nicely salted and plowed road while laying on my rear end on the ice sheet of a sidewalk.
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Joementum posted:got me on friday. i fell and banged up my wrist. spent an hour in the hospital waiting for the xray machine including twenty minutes of "oh hmm all the rooms are full, well, ok wait in this tiny room with this rando for a bit". fun times. oh man Joe I'm sorry if you went through all that trouble with the building inspector only to have to do this at the hospital in your respirator trust!
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Testvan posted:even Open Biden is saying it This statement shows that we are still under Lockdown
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silicone thrills posted:lol my period was hosed up and weird after all 3 of my shots and my pain levels have shot back up. the same thing happened to me. i think i mentioned this before but a dude at my county's health department said that menstrual side effects just don't happen and my problem was something else. only reason i called was because one of their rotating twitter posts were a "debunking" of the menstrual side effects. i was loving livid. similarly, my friend heard about the side effects and asked me if the shot made me skip a period. turned out she got pregnant between shot 1 and 2. her and the baby are fine though, thank goodness.
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gradenko_2000 posted:oh man Joe I'm sorry if you went through all that trouble with the building inspector only to have to do this at the hospital fortunately, i think i got to opt out of my apartment inspection on wednesday. spent the weekend cleaning up my place anyway, which it needed. that was hard to do with one hand in a brace. wednesday looks like it'll be above freezing and windy in the afternoon, so if they do come by i'll just open the windows and tell them to deal.
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lol the loving dog doesn't have a mask anymore gently caress you
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7 day average now just below delta peak over
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I went to the dentist today and I gotta go back in two weeks for a crown. Fml
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Love seeing dicknosing at a pediatric hospital. Fills me with hope. Just joyful glee for my poor toddler's safety
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Sex Arse of Calais posted:I loving love this thread. Nocturtle posted:It probably won't take long for the public and health authorities to admit that reinfections aren't uncommon, as they're already happening with just the Omicron variant and the likely upcoming BA.2 wave will make it undeniable. However the next step will be the most dangerous IMO, as the argument will be that getting reinfected every 4 months is actually ok and mild if you're vaccinated. It will take time for whatever health impacts of repeated infections to become clear, and there will be a lot of social pressure to downplay their significance. In this light the push for normalcy and to abandon NPIs + testing over the past week has been especially concerning, as it's a clear signal the assumption will be repeated COVID infections are not a big deal going forward. Not even sure that will ever be effectively refuted, as the implications are so bad given the virus is everywhere. Mentally preparing myself for this.
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Nocturtle posted:It's bad enough we're living through some of the doomier outcomes initially envisioned about the pandemic. It's made worse the default assumption is always that a given bad outcome is impossible until the evidence becomes irrefutable. People assumed without real evidence that vaccine immunity was going to be durable, reinfections rare, and that the virus couldn't effectively evolve around vaccine antibodies. At each step overwhelming evidence was required to refute these assumptions instead of the opposite. It's terrible that the null hypothesis is always "the bad outcome won't happen so we don't need to do anything proactive". A: Hey the kitchen is on fire B: Oh that sucks but kitchens are like where fire is in a house usually and most of them go out so statistically speaking it’s whatever A: Okay now the living room is on fire B: Wow I didn’t see that coming, I’m so sorry to hear that, but like a lot of stuff these days is built not to burn so I bet it’ll just go out A: Okay the fire has now anthropomorphized into a series of grinning devils that are doing finger-to-lip sneaky walking into other rooms and homes around the neighborhood and they’re dropping cute little fires out of their hip pouches as they go, plus their footprints are on fire B: Yeah I mean there was no way to know the fire was going to do that but it’s probably fine because the cute little fires are like pretty fuckin small in terms of fires, so they should be fine as long as people put them out with fire extinguishers A: Are we going to tell people to do that? Do they have fire extinguishers and understand how and why they should use them? B: No, obviously, we can’t just give everyone a fire extinguisher, they’re expensive and you need to be trained to use one so like what would be the point. But look, the kitchen and the living room are like fully destroyed and the remaining parts are like totally not as on fire as they could have been yet so this would be a great time to buy new furniture. A: All the other houses are on fire and so is the forest and the cartoon fire devils are coming back to burn all the stuff they didn’t burn already, and also some of the cartoon fire devils are like really fast and clearly care more about the job than the last batch did. Several members of my family remain unburned and it looks like that will change soon. B: You are mentally ill, and I want you to know that I say that as a person who cares about the fact that we don’t have a publicly funded haha house to put people like you in any more. While it is true that we can all see the faster cartoon fire devils, they have not been scientifically proven to exist. The only rational course of action is to wait until they knock on our doors, and then open our homes to them and their burning feet and their unslakable thirst for continued and expanded human misery, until such a time that they can be proven extant by the experts. A: Wait, you’re letting them in? Couldn't you just not open the door when they knock? B: Who hurt you?
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some kids can die of covid. as a treat.
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Real Mean Queen posted:You’re lucky to have a mom like that, and she’s lucky to have a daughter like you. Good work.
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are not all states reporting anymore or......
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ex post facho posted:are not all states reporting anymore or...... Why would the report about an extinct virus?
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Joementum posted:got me on friday. i fell and banged up my wrist. spent an hour in the hospital waiting for the xray machine including twenty minutes of "oh hmm all the rooms are full, well, ok wait in this tiny room with this rando for a bit". fun times. Sorry you got nailed, hope that wrist heals up quickly. I think I'm just not going to go outside while it's like this
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