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buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019


nice of her to draw him pictures after his unfortunate banning from the local butterfly pavilion

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Another Dirty Dish
Oct 8, 2009

:argh:
Currently reading How High We Go in the Dark by Sequoia Nagamatsu. It’s set in the near future, where everything sucks in a similar way to the present: there’s a pandemic, due to a mysterious virus found in the melting Siberian permafrost. It seems to mutate organs in unpredictable ways, and primarily infects children and advanced elderly, though there’s heavy foreshadowing for it mutating into something that can infect adults. It’s a great book to read if you want to ruin your whole day: chapter 2 features an underemployed comedian who ends up working as a Mickey Mouse analogue at a euthanasia park for children, complete with a 2000 foot murdercoaster; a few chapters later we get a lab pig that became sentient and learned to talk, and it’s about to learn that it was raised to grow organs for harvesting, and that the mutation in its brain is going to kill it eventually. There’s even a funeral industry cryptocoin: “For only one thousand bereavement crypto-tokens, you can scatter your loved one’s ashes on a one-hour cruise around SanFancisco Bay.”

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

I'm a fair-weather fantasy fan and one of the authors people have been telling me I'd like is Michael Moorcock. The series that seems to be the most popular is his Elric series so I looked for it on Audible at work and found out some of the books are getting released as part of a collection tomorrow. Odd coincidence.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Elric-of...JX1Q16S23QP5S8P

Sibling of TB
Aug 4, 2007

Another Dirty Dish posted:

Currently reading How High We Go in the Dark by Sequoia Nagamatsu. It’s set in the near future, where everything sucks in a similar way to the present: there’s a pandemic, due to a mysterious virus found in the melting Siberian permafrost. It seems to mutate organs in unpredictable ways, and primarily infects children and advanced elderly, though there’s heavy foreshadowing for it mutating into something that can infect adults. It’s a great book to read if you want to ruin your whole day: chapter 2 features an underemployed comedian who ends up working as a Mickey Mouse analogue at a euthanasia park for children, complete with a 2000 foot murdercoaster; a few chapters later we get a lab pig that became sentient and learned to talk, and it’s about to learn that it was raised to grow organs for harvesting, and that the mutation in its brain is going to kill it eventually. There’s even a funeral industry cryptocoin: “For only one thousand bereavement crypto-tokens, you can scatter your loved one’s ashes on a one-hour cruise around SanFancisco Bay.”

Haha! Holy poo poo just your description really brought me down. I guess I'll pass on that one.

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005

Sibling of TB posted:

Haha! Holy poo poo just your description really brought me down. I guess I'll pass on that one.

It becomes sort of more hopeful as time moves on but it's never not entirely not a bummer and the resolution is a sort of long term, existential resolution rather than anything that's really happening on a human scale.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


First one was on my wishlist because space freighter stuff but I don't remember it being mentioned in this thread


Fortuna (The Nova Vita Protocol Book 1) by Kristyn Merbeth $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NCWQRF6/


Memoria (The Nova Vita Protocol Book 2) by Kristyn Merbeth $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086SWJ26K

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

I'm a fair-weather fantasy fan and one of the authors people have been telling me I'd like is Michael Moorcock. The series that seems to be the most popular is his Elric series so I looked for it on Audible at work and found out some of the books are getting released as part of a collection tomorrow. Odd coincidence.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Elric-of...JX1Q16S23QP5S8P

I wonder how they chose the books for that collection. Elric of Melniboné, The Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and The Weird of the White Wolf were all written in the 60s/70s, and The Fortress of the Pearl was written almost 25 years later.

As a Moorcock fan, I have to admit the early Elric books can be pretty rocky going, but he does improve rapidly.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Selachian posted:

I wonder how they chose the books for that collection. Elric of Melniboné, The Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and The Weird of the White Wolf were all written in the 60s/70s, and The Fortress of the Pearl was written almost 25 years later.

As a Moorcock fan, I have to admit the early Elric books can be pretty rocky going, but he does improve rapidly.
Yeah, I'd say Moorcock is the best scifi writer that collaborated with Kilmister. Nominative determinism and all...

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Rand Brittain posted:

It looks like Diane Duane's personal ebook store replaced all the kind-of-sorry ePub files they previously had with some new ones that are much better quality, so I bought them all again. No regrets!

It looks like she put all her ebooks on sale for the duration of the pandemic, a promise which she's held firm on even as the pandemic stretches out to "forever". I respect that.

I'll make it easy for people, it'd be easier if I could link direct to their pages in the store: https://www.dianeduane.com/ebook-store/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/stealing-the-elf-kings-roses/

This one's a standalone detective story with magic and elves. Pretty drat good as both a mystery and a novel.


https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-book-of-night-with-moon/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/to-visit-the-queen/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-big-meow/

The three Feline Wizards novels. Absolutely first rate urban fantasy with interesting characters, compelling plots, and a very inventive setting.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

ToxicFrog posted:

What was wrong with the old ones?

Just the usual sort of "ugly formatting from somebody autoconverting to ePub without styling."

The new ones (except for The Big Meow, apparently) are made in Vellum and look nice.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




mllaneza posted:

I'll make it easy for people, it'd be easier if I could link direct to their pages in the store: https://www.dianeduane.com/ebook-store/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/stealing-the-elf-kings-roses/

This one's a standalone detective story with magic and elves. Pretty drat good as both a mystery and a novel.


https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-book-of-night-with-moon/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/to-visit-the-queen/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-big-meow/

The three Feline Wizards novels. Absolutely first rate urban fantasy with interesting characters, compelling plots, and a very inventive setting.

Book of night with moon really is so fun.

Injera
Jul 4, 2005


mllaneza posted:

I'll make it easy for people, it'd be easier if I could link direct to their pages in the store: https://www.dianeduane.com/ebook-store/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/stealing-the-elf-kings-roses/

This one's a standalone detective story with magic and elves. Pretty drat good as both a mystery and a novel.


https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-book-of-night-with-moon/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/to-visit-the-queen/

https://www.dianeduane.com/portfolio/the-big-meow/

The three Feline Wizards novels. Absolutely first rate urban fantasy with interesting characters, compelling plots, and a very inventive setting.

Thanks for linking that! Ended up picking up the book of night with moon, been considering it for a while but when the link is just right there.... How can I say no! Gotta say, the cover of book 3 makes me want to hurry up and read the first two ASAP.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Tars Tarkas posted:

First one was on my wishlist because space freighter stuff but I don't remember it being mentioned in this thread


Fortuna (The Nova Vita Protocol Book 1) by Kristyn Merbeth $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NCWQRF6/


Memoria (The Nova Vita Protocol Book 2) by Kristyn Merbeth $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086SWJ26K

has anyone read these? i don't mind a bit of large scale soap/space opera but the sale price, as ever, excludes aus readers and au$20 is a lot for a three year old book.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Selachian posted:

I wonder how they chose the books for that collection. Elric of Melniboné, The Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and The Weird of the White Wolf were all written in the 60s/70s, and The Fortress of the Pearl was written almost 25 years later.

Chronological within continuity. Fortress of the Pearl is set between Elric of Melnibone and Sailor on the Seas of Fate. That's also how Gollancz republished them in 2012.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






tokenbrownguy posted:

spellmonger is... pretty horny

It really is. I bought it for the promise of “hedge wizard uses weak magic and strong organisation cleverly to solve problems” and nearly put it down for “and is also a SEX wizard!”

But the rest is good enough to hold it; competently written competence porn, as it were. And the sex somehow isn’t prurient, it’s just..there. It’s not Robert Jordan’s Conan levels of one-handed writing. Like, the wizard fucks, ok.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I kind of forgot about the sex magic in the first book but I thought it was extremely funny that it really is a serious topic of magical theory. Anyway the first book is probably the horniest, and it isn't really. I can't believe I'm trying to claim a fantasy sex scene is a plot element but, it is lmfao.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

I think the skeevier part is like... "and then I hosed the innskeeper's daughters, who were 15 and 19."

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

God drat, I bought the first Spellmonger book based on thread recommendations for when I finish Too Many Magicians, and now I hear its all horny? Aughhh. Maybe Ill just skip to Between Two Fires instead...

Where the drat editors at? Keep it in your pants, authors of the world!

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
I think it's okay to have romance and sex in fantasy novels. It's not really my thing, but for some people it is.

Of course sometimes it's hosed up and that's more iffy.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Feb 15, 2022

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
I think there is room for both horny and not horny books.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
the horny should be good, or charmingly bad

Sibling of TB
Aug 4, 2007

Moreau posted:

God drat, I bought the first Spellmonger book based on thread recommendations for when I finish Too Many Magicians, and now I hear its all horny? Aughhh. Maybe Ill just skip to Between Two Fires instead...

Where the drat editors at? Keep it in your pants, authors of the world!

You think between two fires isn't going to be horny?

Though maybe it's different when it's not the pov character that's horning it up.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

I'm a fair-weather fantasy fan and one of the authors people have been telling me I'd like is Michael Moorcock. The series that seems to be the most popular is his Elric series so I looked for it on Audible at work and found out some of the books are getting released as part of a collection tomorrow. Odd coincidence.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Elric-of...JX1Q16S23QP5S8P

Well thank you for this! Always wanted to get around to checking out the Elric stuff, and also need a new audiobook.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Sibling of TB posted:

You think between two fires isn't going to be horny?

Though maybe it's different when it's not the pov character that's horning it up.

I know, right? Right from the get-go with the satan-eel, like - just jerk off, weirdo!

Fried Sushi
Jul 5, 2004

The thing with the Elric collections is they are a mix of novels, that he spent time and effort on, and quick one offs that he wrote for SF/Fantasy magazines for a quick buck, so the quality jumps around quite a bit, but overall they are classics for a reason.

quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

Whoever is doing the Michael Moorcock readthrough or plans on re-reading some of Moorcock's work, let us know how often Moorcock stuck to the Michael Moorcock guide to writing a 60000 word fantasy novel.

As per Moorcock himself, "break it down into four 15000 word parts each of three chapters. An incident must happen every three pages to keep the reader engrossed".
[source: SFL Archives Vol 19a]


Heinlein chat from a few pages ago: Heinlein by himself is relatively harmless, everything he was a failure at in real life his characters were amazing at in his scifi stories. It's the cult of personality that latched onto Heinlein's work and Heinlein himself that is really terrible. Can't read Stross anymore because where there isn't Heinlein 23/7 there is creepy rear end poo poo like self-lubricating sexbot nipples.

Moreau posted:

Where the drat editors at? Keep it in your pants, authors of the world!

fantasy and scifi editors have been terrible on editing away stuff like that since the 1960's at least. Horniness wish fulfillment crap like GOR, Jack Chalker, GRRM, Terry Goodkind, etc sold like crazy, and has kept more than a few book publishing houses afloat.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

quantumfoam posted:

Whoever is doing the Michael Moorcock readthrough or plans on re-reading some of Moorcock's work, let us know how often Moorcock stuck to the Michael Moorcock guide to writing a 60000 word fantasy novel.

As per Moorcock himself, "break it down into four 15000 word parts each of three chapters. An incident must happen every three pages to keep the reader engrossed".
[source: SFL Archives Vol 19a]

You can find Moorcock's guide here. It's heavily inspired by the Lester Dent Master Plot, as formulated by the author of the Doc Savage pulp novels.

(And since I haven't mentioned it in forever: if you're new to Moorcock and want to try just one book to see how you like him, you want The War Hound and the World's Pain.)

LemonyTang
Nov 29, 2009

Ask me about holding 4gate!

Screaming_Gremlin posted:

I am a little over half way through Ada Palmer's Too Like the Lightning. Uh, cannot say that I predicted the direction the story went with Mycroft Canner's background. The first part of the book has you thinking his crime and punishment are related to the canner device and his ability to bypass security. But nope, turns out he was a serial killer that engaged in a little wholesome cannibalism. :dogstare:

That being said, while it was a pretty slow burn for me at first, I am really getting into the book. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

This reveal came *just* after I got hooked and had been reading for hours, but it was such an unexpected and gut-wrenching twist that I put the book down and was just in shock.

But now I've read all four and I utterly love Mycroft so I don't know what the hell.

Very glad I did pick it up and read on because I felt every book just got better and better.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Selachian posted:

You can find Moorcock's guide here. It's heavily inspired by the Lester Dent Master Plot, as formulated by the author of the Doc Savage pulp novels.

(And since I haven't mentioned it in forever: if you're new to Moorcock and want to try just one book to see how you like him, you want The War Hound and the World's Pain.)

The Doc Savage novels are also really fun if you’re looking for pulp adventure with some dashes of sci-fi.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Moreau posted:

God drat, I bought the first Spellmonger book based on thread recommendations for when I finish Too Many Magicians, and now I hear its all horny? Aughhh. Maybe Ill just skip to Between Two Fires instead...

Where the drat editors at? Keep it in your pants, authors of the world!

Spellmonger is self-published

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


That's no excuse for not having an editor. :colbert:

cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Feb 16, 2022

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

quantumfoam posted:

Whoever is doing the Michael Moorcock readthrough or plans on re-reading some of Moorcock's work, let us know how often Moorcock stuck to the Michael Moorcock guide to writing a 60000 word fantasy novel.

As per Moorcock himself, "break it down into four 15000 word parts each of three chapters. An incident must happen every three pages to keep the reader engrossed".
[source: SFL Archives Vol 19a]

Okay, this is actually making me excited to read his stuff. While it's nice that fantasy doesn't seem bound by the rules of a lot of literature, I cannot for the life of me deal with their penchant of just spinning their wheels for a hundred pages without so much as an interesting dialogue here or there.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

Okay, this is actually making me excited to read his stuff. While it's nice that fantasy doesn't seem bound by the rules of a lot of literature, I cannot for the life of me deal with their penchant of just spinning their wheels for a hundred pages without so much as an interesting dialogue here or there.

That's mostly a modern (that is, post-GRRM, Jordan, and Tad Williams) fantasy thing. Before that, fantasy writers of Moorcock's era were a lot quicker to get to the point.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
Each of the Moorcock novels in the Elric collection released today is divided into three parts of around five chapters in the index, so he wasn't following his 3-day-novel formula for these. Maybe these were written before he came up with it, or maybe he applied different rules depending on how much effort he was putting into a particular novel. I've only read Elric of Melnibone so far, but there are definitely three distinct parts rather than four.

Something happening every three pages seems accurate for Elric of Melnibone though. Moorcock reminds me of Jack Vance for how many ideas he can cram into a short book.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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AngusPodgorny posted:

Each of the Moorcock novels in the Elric collection released today is divided into three parts of around five chapters in the index, so he wasn't following his 3-day-novel formula for these. Maybe these were written before he came up with it, or maybe he applied different rules depending on how much effort he was putting into a particular novel. I've only read Elric of Melnibone so far, but there are definitely three distinct parts rather than four.

Most of the Elric "novels" are actually short story collections.

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

The Elric stuff is fun and one of the major influences on a lot of "dark" fantasy from the last few decades. But the real Moorcock goodness is his time travel fiction. Some of Behold the Man is fedora grade atheism, but it's overall a fun, twisted retelling of the Christ story. The Nomad of Time novels are full weird and violent alternate 20th centuries. And the "End of Time" stories are wonderful comic stories about people who have everything, especially an excess of ennui.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


branedotorg posted:

has anyone read these? i don't mind a bit of large scale soap/space opera but the sale price, as ever, excludes aus readers and au$20 is a lot for a three year old book.

I think it might be six months before I get to them due to my current queue and how slowly I am getting through what I am reading now due to a kid and trying to finish a few other projects. I really only saw people talking about them on the lists of new scifi books each month so have almost nothing to go on beyond them being in a genre I usually like.

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branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Tars Tarkas posted:

I think it might be six months before I get to them due to my current queue and how slowly I am getting through what I am reading now due to a kid and trying to finish a few other projects. I really only saw people talking about them on the lists of new scifi books each month so have almost nothing to go on beyond them being in a genre I usually like.

thanks, i'm in a similar boat, might wait till they go on sale again then

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