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Zombie Lemur posted:Does Tiny Lister reprising his role as Zeus from No Holds Barred and feuding with Hogan count? If I recall correctly they kind of waffled back and forth between him being an actor mad that he had to lose in the movie and him straight up being the character. Related, there was also a brief skit with Mean Gene where Kurt Fuller appeared in character as Brell, mad that Zeus lost in the movie because apparently the contract said he was supposed to win.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Related, there was also a brief skit with Mean Gene where Kurt Fuller appeared in character as Brell, mad that Zeus lost in the movie because apparently the contract said he was supposed to win. Lol, I don't remember that part. Also, I 100% believed what Vince and the other onscreen personalities were saying about No Holds Barred and thought it was an incredibly successful movie.
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Defenestrategy posted:There was also fake trump and fake rosie o donnel? Wasn't that KFC Colonel Dolph Ziggler?
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Related, there was also a brief skit with Mean Gene where Kurt Fuller appeared in character as Brell, mad that Zeus lost in the movie because apparently the contract said he was supposed to win. Even though Brell killed himself at the end of the movie. And the Bill Clinton thing was weird. Unlike Rosie O’Donnell, Obama, Hilary, etc, they actually acted as though the the President of the United States was sitting in the crowd and being interviewed by IRS.
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Not that it really counts but AEW had a crossover with Rick and Morty very early on (Halloween ep I think? Same one with Kenny as Sans). Obviously it’s just Justin Roiland doing a voice to introduce the Best Friends, but considering how that show works it could be conceived that Morty is actually doing a ring announcer guest spot.
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't he used to teach at the Wrestle Factory before... whatever happened there? There was a shoot interview where he went into deep detail over it years ago, but the gist of it is that he had enough of Quack's bullshit and felt that he wasn't being paid enough. He was written out at the end of 2007 and stayed gone. When it seemed like time would heal wounds and Hero tried to stop by one of the shows, Quack told him not to. I recall that the official Chikara forum constantly had people fantasy booking how Hero could be brought back into the fold for years and the forum eventually altered "Chris Hero" into another name if anyone typed it.
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Defenestrategy posted:There was also fake trump and fake rosie o donnel? Fake Trump was played by Ace Steel, who trained CM Punk and Colt Cabana.
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Gavok posted:
Such a missed opportunity not running the bloodfeud between Quack and gentle caress
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BodyMassageMachine posted:gentle caress
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Zombie Lemur posted:Does Tiny Lister reprising his role as Zeus from No Holds Barred and feuding with Hogan count? If I recall correctly they kind of waffled back and forth between him being an actor mad that he had to lose in the movie and him straight up being the character. Not only does Zeus (who apparently sprang to life from the movie to go after Hogan, I guess) count they also had the guy who played the unscrupulous... booking agent or whatever he was putting together the match between Zeus and Rip, played by that character actor who in the 80's was always some unscrupulous guy in a suit in No Holds Barred show up at least once as the agent.
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i just listened to a podcast about zeus being the worst guy a director/producer/etc ever worked with and apparently he would rudely demand a caesar salad from the nearest PA whenever he got to set, and also probably could not read
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Super No Vacancy posted:i just listened to a podcast about zeus being the worst guy a director/producer/etc ever worked with and apparently he would rudely demand a caesar salad from the nearest PA whenever he got to set, and also probably could not read What’s up, fellow Scott Hasn’t Seen listener
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Edge & Christian posted:- Taimak appeared on at least one ROH show channeling Bruce Leeroy from the Last Dragon They should've gotten Julius Carry before he died so he could pass his character to a wrestler. Sho'Nuff would've been an excellent heel gimmick. Didn't someone cosplay as him for an entrance at some point? Was it Booker?
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Bruce Leroy was supposed to do a tag in ROH but it got canned because ROH decided not to book Jimmy Yang for his final date because he plugged his match on Velocity on an ROH show when he re-signed with WWE. I think this also meant Leroy's last appearance setting up that match got cut. I forget if they called him Bruce Leroy or not because my memory of being there live is everyone calling him Leroy.
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When was the last time that WWE ran a "little man defeats bigger man due to little man's heart/bravery/gumption/etc." angle or storyline? I know that was always the story they liked to use with Rey Misterio, but I can't think off the top of my head of the last time they tried to do it. When that story seems to me to be an easy storytelling 101 move of getting the crowd behind an underdog babyface who eventually defeats the big bad monster against the odds.
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BrigadierSensible posted:When was the last time that WWE ran a "little man defeats bigger man due to little man's heart/bravery/gumption/etc." angle or storyline? Diesel vs Mabel 
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Vince hates underdogs almost as much as he hates friendship.
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CombineThresher posted:Fake Trump was played by Ace Steel, who trained CM Punk and Colt Cabana. I SWEAR Jack Black as Nacho Libre was brought on a random Smackdown to promote the movie.
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SirDippingSauce posted:I SWEAR Jack Black as Nacho Libre was brought on a random Smackdown to promote the movie. https://youtu.be/29rggbXEtjo ?? Edit: no lie i would love it if there was a dude doing exactly this character (and is actually good at wrestling too). Gimme more fat dudes in lucha outfits going “ooooh yeahhhh!!”
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:Vince hates underdogs almost as much as he hates friendship. I can't remember who said it but I always think of that quote, "Vince is the only guy that read David and Goliath and thought Goliath should have won."
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Is there anything funnier in wrestling award history than WCCW winning Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic in the WON awards 5 years in a row from 85 to 89? Just a perfectly scummy promotion.
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forkboy84 posted:Is there anything funnier in wrestling award history than WCCW winning Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic in the WON awards 5 years in a row from 85 to 89? Just a perfectly scummy promotion. WWE winning six years in a row (2001-2006)? WWE winning eight years in a row (2008-2015)? WWE winning five years in a row (2017-2021)?
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"WWE firing people during a pandemic" won two straight years
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it's more funny the last few years as WWE just swept the top places with not only the Covid firings during record profits but also the Saudi Blood Money shows
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Davros1 posted:WWE winning six years in a row (2001-2006)? I think what's so good about WCCW was it was all genuinely scummy stuff, usually involving taking advantage of deaths, including Fritz's own kids. 85 - using Mike Von Erich's brush with death to sell tickets 86 - Equating Gino Hernandez's death with an angle of Chris Adams going blind (Kevin Von Erich's interview where he said his brother was killed in a match by a kick to the stomach didn't even make top 3) 87 - Using Mike Von Erich's Death to sell tickets 88 - Fritz Von Erichs faking a heart attack after his own kids kept dying (hi-five for the absolute weirdos who voted "Rick Rude's tights" this year) 89 I read wrong, it was WWC in Puerto Rico who won for pushing a murderer as a babyface. Wrestling sure is something
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Fritz was insanely carny even by the standards of that era
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Genuinely think Fritz must be Vince's idol. Just fired Shane because he had the audacity not to die yet* In a field with more than its share of murderers, paedophiles, rapists & abusers Fritz somehow still manages to be near the top of worst person in the history of the business. *I have no proof this is true. But I'd like to think so.
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In Japan in the 90s there was a promotion (maybe W*ING?) that had all these horror movie character wrestler gimmicks like Super Leather (Leatherface), Jason the Terrible (Jason Voorhees) and some kind of lovely fat Freddie Krueger. I seem to recall a coffin match between two different versions of Jason lol
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Elephant Ambush posted:In Japan in the 90s there was a promotion (maybe W*ING?) that had all these horror movie character wrestler gimmicks like Super Leather (Leatherface), Jason the Terrible (Jason Voorhees) and some kind of lovely fat Freddie Krueger. I seem to recall a coffin match between two different versions of Jason lol Memphis had the same kind of stuff. I think it was Freddie the Nightmare or something.
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It could be worse, late 90s/Early 00s britwres was wall to wall with even less imaginative WWE ‘tribute’ gimmicks. Some shows skipped over the tribute part and just straight up advertised it as if it was the real deal.
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First wrestling show I saw live had Fakr Undertaker, Fake Kane & I think Fake X-Pac & got was it just a bit depressing
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:They had that whole PPV with Fake Obama and Hillary doing various skits right? I didn't watch around that time but I feel like I heard about it on a podcast. Capitol Punishment, which featured both Alex Riley vs The Miz AND Wade Barrett vs Ezekiel Jackson, who knew… 2 moves? Maybe 3? It was quite the event.
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Elephant Ambush posted:In Japan in the 90s there was a promotion (maybe W*ING?) that had all these horror movie character wrestler gimmicks like Super Leather (Leatherface), Jason the Terrible (Jason Voorhees) and some kind of lovely fat Freddie Krueger. I seem to recall a coffin match between two different versions of Jason lol Wasn't there an Undertaker match against a zombie character in Japan? Or did he just look dead?
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BodyMassageMachine posted:https://youtu.be/29rggbXEtjo ?? Okay, looks like I mixed this up with the time WWE listed Nacho Libre on the Smackdown superstar roster page to promote the movie and conflated this (still funny) ECW match. Thanks.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Wasn't there an Undertaker match against a zombie character in Japan? Or did he just look dead? Thats the match with Jinsei Shinzaki after the Great Muta killed him a year earlier.
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History Comes Inside! posted:It could be worse, late 90s/Early 00s britwres was wall to wall with even less imaginative WWE ‘tribute’ gimmicks. I can't decide on whether Rock Steadfast is a name for a pornstar or a bassist in a ska band.
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Zombie Lemur posted:I can't decide on whether Rock Steadfast is a name for a pornstar or a bassist in a ska band. Bolt Vanderhuge
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Elephant Ambush posted:In Japan in the 90s there was a promotion (maybe W*ING?) that had all these horror movie character wrestler gimmicks like Super Leather (Leatherface), Jason the Terrible (Jason Voorhees) and some kind of lovely fat Freddie Krueger. I seem to recall a coffin match between two different versions of Jason lol Eddie and Doug Gilbert used to do horror characters for W*ING, culminating in the match of Leatherface and The Boogie Man vs Crypt Keeper and Freddie Krueger Other hardcore feds used horror characters too. IWA had the short lived tag team of The Leatherfaces, which culminated in a Barbed Wire Board Spike Nail Death Match against Hiroshi Ono and Shoji Nakamaki where Original Leatherface (Corporal Kirschner) broke a spike off the board and legdropped it into Ono's neck. From Foley's book: quote:Mike Kirschener had been the original Leatherface, for the FMW promotion in Japan. He’d had a short run in the World Wrestling Federation as Corporal Kirschener in the mid-eighties, but their attempt at making him a new Sergeant Slaughter had failed, and he had been drifting in the business for years before catching on in Japan. He was a nice guy, but he had a short fuse, and two years earlier an argument that he had not started ended with him punching a Japanese man in the face. The punch had been so devastating that the man’s face had been almost destroyed, and Kirschener spent six months in a Japanese jail as a result.
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Also every 2000s indie had a lovely Undertaker ripoff, almost like they were required to by law.
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