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NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


asur posted:

Prac Guide That was expectedly unexpected. Get hosed Yara.

EE really stuck the landing on this one. Bodied twice in two chapters by people who were supposed to be powerless.

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Ramie
Mar 2, 2021

my only possible complaint is that this means that we are not ending the story on Chapter 69

unless....?

Ramie fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Feb 18, 2022

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

NinjaDebugger posted:

EE really stuck the landing on this one. Bodied twice in two chapters by people who were supposed to be powerless.

I always had faith that the ending would at least be satisfying. There's a reason why I consider PracGuide to be the best web serial of its type (not sure what to call this type, but the same structure as something like Worm where you have arcs interspersed with "interludes" from other POVs). With most other web serials, the contents feel like the sort of thing I could conceivably come up with, given enough effort/practice, but the PracGuide author really has a gift for coming up with distinct characters/settings/scenarios. Probably the most impressive thing to me is how they can just knock out these Interlude chapters describing the backstory of some character and have them almost invariably be very interesting short stories that can stand on their own (like the recent Scribe one, or Roland's). Or stuff like all those little quotes at the top of each chapter. There's no way I could consistently come up with stuff like that.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Larry Parrish posted:

The whole last act of the book very extremely obviously feels like the author suddenly realized just how much there was left to write.

Yeah, I had this same issue with MoL. It is a great story overall but the ending act kinda sucks.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Larry Parrish posted:

I read a couple thousand pages. The whole idea that consciousness can't exist at all in our universe, and arises because of extra dimensional entities 'living' in the energy pattern created by the structure of a brain. this is conclusively proven by the android who is totally mechanical and just emulates a human shape but still has a consciousness because it looks the same to the entities.

And people said Worm was kind of cosmic horror-y. They don't know poo poo lol. The Fifth Defiance is legitimately so depressing I couldn't finish it. The whole reason the apocalypse happened is nuts, too- I don't remember how far that side story is, but Jesus.
the ending is loving terrible

it literally sets up three possible world-ending scenarios, and then the last chapter is all just dialogue from the "bad" character responsible being like "okay pick one of these six things that is not lovely to happen, other five will not happen and here's how it will suck", the end

maybe I just don't appreciate art

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I kind of figured it wasn't going to have a good one. But, you know, it's a good setting that I've thought about a lot, so I got what I wanted out of it.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
yeah, now that im near the end the author is clearing running out of steam, which is unfortunate.

still, the middle part especially was one hell of a ride

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
I definitely don't regret reading it, which is a reasonably high bar for me, so I'm not complaining, just wish it'd stuck the landing.

MonikaTSarn
May 23, 2005

I am kind of accidently following 10 different books on Royalroad at once. So much to read, its awesome. Many of them have 10 or more extra chapters on patreon, and I'd love to pay one or two of them a month to read ahead, then drop them again wait for new RoyalRoad chapters later.

But it's so inconvenient ! Reading 10 chapters at once backwards on patreon is just a pain, and then you have to update your RR progress manuall. Wish there was some kind of integration. Or maybe I shouldn't wish for something like this, it might turn RR into webnovel.com where nothing is really free.

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

MonikaTSarn posted:

I am kind of accidently following 10 different books on Royalroad at once. So much to read, its awesome. Many of them have 10 or more extra chapters on patreon, and I'd love to pay one or two of them a month to read ahead, then drop them again wait for new RoyalRoad chapters later.

But it's so inconvenient ! Reading 10 chapters at once backwards on patreon is just a pain, and then you have to update your RR progress manuall. Wish there was some kind of integration. Or maybe I shouldn't wish for something like this, it might turn RR into webnovel.com where nothing is really free.

I think about this problem a lot and it's why I only put my chapters ahead on my own website; I tried a couple on patreon but the readers really disliked reading there.

But now I'm gearing up to write two stories at the same time, I might have to rely on patreon for advance chapters of the other project, unless I want to run two websites.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

MonikaTSarn posted:

I am kind of accidently following 10 different books on Royalroad at once. So much to read, its awesome. Many of them have 10 or more extra chapters on patreon, and I'd love to pay one or two of them a month to read ahead, then drop them again wait for new RoyalRoad chapters later.

But it's so inconvenient ! Reading 10 chapters at once backwards on patreon is just a pain, and then you have to update your RR progress manuall. Wish there was some kind of integration. Or maybe I shouldn't wish for something like this, it might turn RR into webnovel.com where nothing is really free.

I read pretty much everything on my Kindle, but patreon releases are still a bit annoying since I have to open each chapter in a new tab, then Ctrl-A Ctrl-C Ctrl-V them in order. All while doing my best not to start reading them and get spoiled. I wonder if maybe they'll ever add ebook functionality, but I don't know how webserial authors ranks as a portion of Patreon's userbase.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Ar'Kendrithyst's Patreon updates provide an ebook for each new weekly chapter, which I really enjoy.

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

Peachfart posted:

Ar'Kendrithyst's Patreon updates provide an ebook for each new weekly chapter, which I really enjoy.

It is a full ebook with the current chapter at the end, or just a epub release of that week's chapter?

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Hungry posted:

It is a full ebook with the current chapter at the end, or just a epub release of that week's chapter?

Oh, an epub with that chapter, sorry.

PoorWeather
Nov 4, 2009

Don't worry, everybody has those days.

Hungry posted:

I think about this problem a lot and it's why I only put my chapters ahead on my own website; I tried a couple on patreon but the readers really disliked reading there.

But now I'm gearing up to write two stories at the same time, I might have to rely on patreon for advance chapters of the other project, unless I want to run two websites.

I post my advance chapters to Patreon, and my readers have been pushing me to post them to a static google docs instead for how easy that makes typo corrections. That might be a less janky option.

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

PoorWeather posted:

I post my advance chapters to Patreon, and my readers have been pushing me to post them to a static google docs instead for how easy that makes typo corrections. That might be a less janky option.

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

i chat with my friend about it but mostly I just look at the top list on RR and skip anything that has too anime poisoned of a description. you know what I'm talking about here. Skipping a genre list like a loving restaurant menu has steered me well so far.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


PoorWeather posted:

I post my advance chapters to Patreon, and my readers have been pushing me to post them to a static google docs instead for how easy that makes typo corrections. That might be a less janky option.

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

recommendations in other stories have turned me on to a lot of cool stuff recently. i generally find that i trust the author of a thing i like to link to other stuff i'll probably like. i also keep an eye on spacebattles for both original fiction and fanfiction although 12 miles below and wizard space program are the only original things i've really liked that were posted there.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

PoorWeather posted:

I post my advance chapters to Patreon, and my readers have been pushing me to post them to a static google docs instead for how easy that makes typo corrections. That might be a less janky option.

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

Author recommendations on RR work ~25% of the time (a lot of them end up in my read later list which is too long to be useful now).
Author recommendations from serials that have their own website. (e.g. Katalepsis or this translator lists all the stories they've translated: https://dreamsofjianghu.ca/ascending-do-not-disturb/)
Word of mouth on discord (not helpful when picking marketing avenues, I know).
Googling with keywords like litrpg or progression fantasy.
Google often leads me to reddit posts of either serial tier lists or some random story with at best a 5-10% chance of being tolerable.
Very rarely I'll find a series via recommendation from other forums like Sufficient Velocity or Space Battles, but their recommendations are extremely hit or miss for me. SV is very receptive to new authors, so cross-posting there is probably not a bad idea as long as it doesn't lead to burn out.

There's other sites than RR with lots of webnovels, but they generally feel pretty sketchy so I don't read on them if a story is available anywhere else.

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.

PoorWeather posted:

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

I search for a tag or three and sort by last update. I read a lot during the 80% of downtime that is my job, so whenever I'm looking to add something I'm looking for stuff that's still updating.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

This Quest is Bullshit is now complete, and was pretty good all the way through. Worth a read.

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

PoorWeather posted:

Side note, if you guys wouldn't mind me doing a bit of obnoxious market research, how do you generally find new serials to read? Beyond the top lists on RR and, well, this thread I guess.

I sometimes read whatever is sitting next to my own updates in latest updated. It's a win/win because if it's good you found something to read and when it's bad you can say 'this is my competition'.

If there's a popular story you read and don't like, see what a reviewer who also didn't like it DID enjoy. I have a few things on my to-read list because I found someone who did a lot of reviews that had tastes close to mine.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

Nettle Soup posted:

This Quest is Bullshit is now complete, and was pretty good all the way through. Worth a read.

It got bogged down pretty hard in one of the middle arcs around when the author took a break, but it did recover well in the second half.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

catgirlgenius posted:

Has Amber Skies been brought up in this thread yet? I just got into it and I can't believe I don't see more people trumpeting how good it is

A few pages back, but thanks for plugging this, it's rad.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
I bet you all can guess which story's author wrote this:

quote:

So thank you. Thank you all for reading. It means a lot that I’m bringing people that much enjoyment with a story that was originally intended to be basically a smut harem story.

Its funny how that changed. I still get a smirk every time I think about how its changed.

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

Plorkyeran posted:

I bet you all can guess which story's author wrote this:

War Queen?

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
The Wandering Inn?

Sailor Dave
Sep 19, 2013
Worm?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
That Time I Reincarnated Into A Smut Harem Story?

Kyoujin
Oct 7, 2009
I'm guessing Beware of Chicken think someone mentioned earlier it was originally planned to be smut.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

pgte epilogue 1 just dropped.

quote:

“It was an orphan, a Foundling, that led us to the edge of the world and brought us back. I’ll not let another name steal that deed.”

The crowd breathed in.

“House Foundling will rule Callow,” Queen Vivienne said. “I will bear the name, as will those who come after me, and we will not forget.”


Dammit, who's cutting onions?

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry

Plorkyeran posted:

I bet you all can guess which story's author wrote this:

Ave Xia Rem Y

Wrong answers only; Tori Transmigrated

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
I was going to guess blue core

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
I went looking for something to read, and came across Demesne

quote:

A (NOT LitRPG) Dungeon story

Out on the frontier of a new continent, the wizard Lori and her group of settlers try to build a community for themselves in a land actively hostile to intelligent life. With their wits, their will, and their newly built Dungeon to protect them against the Iridescence, they should be fine. If they can survive the lack of infrastructure. And the supply shortages. And other settlements poaching their people. And idiots who don't get exactly what having to settle somewhere entails. And dragons... A slice-of-life fantasy story.

It's been enjoyable so far. Lori (full name Lolilyuri, and while that might raise some flags there's nothing to worry about) is socially inept and an introvert, which when paired with a sense of superiority makes for an interesting, if slightly frustrating, character. She's often wrong, though not always, but she does take advice from Rian, the supporting character that handles actually running the settlement. A side-note if you're looking for something with inclusion: while romance hasn't really come up, there's been references to gay couples and Lori has two mothers.

It's also got a great version of dragons, which are these quasi-eldritch beings that are more like natural disasters that warp the world and magic around them.

The author also has a second story, Ainōryoku Sentai Nightmærangers. I haven't checked it out yet, but the concept seems interesting enough to post here too.

quote:

In the city of Metro Manila, terrible beasts have appeared, possessed of impossible powers that stand against the principles discovered by science. These eldritch beasts run rampant through the city, causing chaos and suffering as public order breaks down in the face of this horror.

However, there is hope! Five brave souls clad in heroic colors have chosen to stand against this terrible, unspeakable, blasphemous chaos that threatens to drag the city down into a cesspit of accursed, loathsome vileness and indescribable, unknowable danger! Blessed and cursed with eldritch and nameless powers beyond that which men should know, they chose to stand against this coming blight!

They are the Ainōryoku Sentai Nightmærangers!

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The author has an extremely advanced case of anime poisoning. But yeah I like Demense. It's glacially paced and a slice of life though so probably not for almost anyone.

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
It didn't seem that slowly paced to me.

I do generally like slice-of-life stories though, so that's probably just my bias.

PoorWeather
Nov 4, 2009

Don't worry, everybody has those days.
Thanks for the input, you guys; I appreciate it a lot.

LLSix posted:

Very rarely I'll find a series via recommendation from other forums like Sufficient Velocity or Space Battles, but their recommendations are extremely hit or miss for me. SV is very receptive to new authors, so cross-posting there is probably not a bad idea as long as it doesn't lead to burn out.

I already post on SB, but it doesn't really seem like SV has much in the way of original fiction, at least when I checked? Other than quests and the alt history stuff that have their own forums.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Onean posted:

It didn't seem that slowly paced to me.

I do generally like slice-of-life stories though, so that's probably just my bias.

It's cuz it tricks you into not noticing relatively little happening in the plot with the town building and also never actually establishing an overall plot.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


of the chapters written for demesne so far, the first half is slow-paced and the second half is glacial

the first half felt deliberately paced, but the current stuff feels kinda like the author is spinning wheels until they can get to some pre-planned plot event and feels obliged to show literally everything along the way. i like it well enough to keep reading but it would be kind of nice for something to happen

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.

Larry Parrish posted:

It's cuz it tricks you into not noticing relatively little happening in the plot with the town building and also never actually establishing an overall plot.

That's fair. I am only about 50 chapters in, out of 150, so there's a bit for me to get through yet.

As for no overarching plot (aside from starting up a settlement in the wilderness), that's not too unusual for slice-of-life.

Edit:

Jazerus posted:

of the chapters written for demesne so far, the first half is slow-paced and the second half is glacial

the first half felt deliberately paced, but the current stuff feels kinda like the author is spinning wheels until they can get to some pre-planned plot event and feels obliged to show literally everything along the way. i like it well enough to keep reading but it would be kind of nice for something to happen

Hmmm. That's unfortunate, though not exactly uncommon for serials. I hope it doesn't go on for too long.

Onean fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Feb 22, 2022

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I should point out that l don't regard that as a problem at all, but it definetly does get even slower.

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