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Stairmaster posted:it was cool because you got to see goku and vegeta fight a guy together that would be great if it wasn't a movie that had like ten cuts of decent animation and then the rest looked like this 
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Geggheka vs Gooblah
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Here's what the joke for fat Gotenks will be in the new movie, they'll try and fuse when the new androids go into their most dangerous phase and gently caress up because they are out of practice. In the half hour that follows Gohan has to handle the situation personally and gets a big fat moment of glory and defeats the bad guys and then Goten and Trunks successfully fuse just in time for the fight to be over. Cue groaning about how Goten and Trunks will never be allowed to be useful ever again.
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Feb 23, 2022 03:01
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To be fair, they were never useful in the first place
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair, they were never useful in the first place They helped Buu kick Gohan's rear end.
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Feb 23, 2022 03:09
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I honestly wondered if Gotenks cockiness was more of Trunks side
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Goten has zero personality so Gotenks is just Trunks pretty much
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Black August posted:I was gonna say that the only reason Cell’s Namekian regen worked so well was because it was combined with Frieza’s insane resilience to being put down It really is one of those fusion-style multiplicative effects. Frieza just refuses to die, but he won't, like, immediately heal up from grievous injuries. Meanwhile, Piccolo can absolutely be killed if you, say, shoot a giant hole through his torso, but he's growing back limbs and other body parts all day long, good as new, as long as they aren't an outright mortal blow. Together...
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Shyrka posted:Cell without Piccolo genes would've been way more dangerous because he'd have actually dodged poo poo instead of tanking it to show off his regeneration. Yeah but if he couldn't regen Goku would have ended him with the IT Kamehameha
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Vegeta would have already done him in with the final flash.
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khwarezm posted:Here's what the joke for fat Gotenks will be in the new movie, they'll try and fuse when the new androids go into their most dangerous phase and gently caress up because they are out of practice. In the half hour that follows Gohan has to handle the situation personally and gets a big fat moment of glory and defeats the bad guys and then Goten and Trunks successfully fuse just in time for the fight to be over. Cue groaning about how Goten and Trunks will never be allowed to be useful ever again. Fat Gotenks vs Dr. Hedo to highlight how depowered a botched fusion is.
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hatty posted:Goten has zero personality so Gotenks is just Trunks pretty much goten is like a little guy
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khwarezm posted:Here's what the joke for fat Gotenks will be in the new movie, they'll try and fuse when the new androids go into their most dangerous phase and gently caress up because they are out of practice. In the half hour that follows Gohan has to handle the situation personally and gets a big fat moment of glory and defeats the bad guys and then Goten and Trunks successfully fuse just in time for the fight to be over. Cue groaning about how Goten and Trunks will never be allowed to be useful ever again. That still sounds more useful than I expect them to be. Aoi posted:It really is one of those fusion-style multiplicative effects. Frieza just refuses to die, but he won't, like, immediately heal up from grievous injuries. Meanwhile, Piccolo can absolutely be killed if you, say, shoot a giant hole through his torso, but he's growing back limbs and other body parts all day long, good as new, as long as they aren't an outright mortal blow. Honestly, it's kinda BS that regenerating didn't cost Cell any ki.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Honestly, it's kinda BS that regenerating didn't cost Cell any ki. It did. It's just that it didn't matter until Gohan was called in to fight... then Goku gave Cell a Senzu bean.
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It didn't when he blew himself up. It made him stronger even!!
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Shindragon posted:I honestly wondered if Gotenks cockiness was more of Trunks side It's more that Trunks is bratty but on the smarter and more cunning side, and Goten is naive but more hyperactive. Anyone who remembers or has seen how the dynamics between kids can work and how they can hold each other back or alternately egg each other on into bad ideas will probably have an understanding what makes Gotenks tick. Especially given the whole deal how Gotenks trains by himself in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with only occasional updates from Piccolo; he didn't get outside influences at a pretty formative time, so most of his techniques are whatever he could come up with on his own with his brand new power and thought was cool. Like, Goten and Trunks are at a very specific age, just young enough to still be kiddy kids but old enough to know just enough to get themselves into real trouble.
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The Dragonball wiki has a lot of info on the timeline stuff. In case you want to clarify things According to them Bulma made a mistake with the time machine so using it even without changing anything still causes time to change. So basically a mechanic did it.
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Bushmaori posted:Vegeta would have already done him in with the final flash. I don't think he would have let Vegeta do the final flash to him if he didn't have super regeneration. Goku's IT Kamehameha was at least a surprise attack.
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Kanos posted:I don't think he would have let Vegeta do the final flash to him if he didn't have super regeneration. Goku's IT Kamehameha was at least a surprise attack. If he had Vegeta in him I reckon he'd be dumb enough to believe he could take it
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Aoi posted:It really is one of those fusion-style multiplicative effects. Frieza just refuses to die, but he won't, like, immediately heal up from grievous injuries. Meanwhile, Piccolo can absolutely be killed if you, say, shoot a giant hole through his torso, but he's growing back limbs and other body parts all day long, good as new, as long as they aren't an outright mortal blow. Cell actually did blow a hole right through Piccolo and threw him in the ocean, and he was a bit waterlogged but a sensu bean fixed him right up Namekian physiology (or at least Piccolo's) is resilient as gently caress
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I don't think Piccolo's ever regenerated from anything other than a lost arm. On the other hand, I think he's probably lost his arm more times than the entire rest of the cast combined by this point.
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Vizuyos posted:I don't think Piccolo's ever regenerated from anything other than a lost arm. It might be filler but in the Buu saga when Dabura turns him into stone Trunks accidentally shatters his statue and straight up thinks he killed him. Then Piccolo shows up and says something about about how he's able to regen so long as his head isn't damaged. Its heavily implied that Trunks sees a pile of gore from the broken pieces as well.
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khwarezm posted:It might be filler but in the Buu saga when Dabura turns him into stone Trunks accidentally shatters his statue and straight up thinks he killed him. Then Piccolo shows up and says something about about how he's able to regen so long as his head isn't damaged. It’s not filler, I remember that part and I’ve only read the manga. Namekian regeneration is one of those things that seemed to inexplicably get a lot more powerful as the series went on so like many things in Dragon Ball it’s probably better not to think about it too hard.
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Good point. Kamiccolo should have used the Clothes Beam to make a new Namek for the Namekians somewhere more handy. After all if someone with a power level of 400 can make clothes, someone with a power level in the low-mid nine figures can make a planet
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Shyrka posted:Cell without Piccolo genes would've been way more dangerous because he'd have actually dodged poo poo instead of tanking it to show off his regeneration. Cell without Piccolo would have died to Android 16
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khwarezm posted:It might be filler but in the Buu saga when Dabura turns him into stone Trunks accidentally shatters his statue and straight up thinks he killed him. Then Piccolo shows up and says something about about how he's able to regen so long as his head isn't damaged. Not even implied, you see one of his limbs, Trunks freaks out, and the Piccolo is like 'lol jk fine'
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I don't think Namekian regeneration got broken over time, I think Piccolo/Cell are just so goddamn powerful that it works in overdrive compared to your run of the mill Namekian farmer
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Kild posted:It didn't when he blew himself up. It made him stronger even!! Cause that brought him to the very edge of death then the Saiyan cells activated to give him a boost bigger then any Saiyan can get, cause they can’t regenerate from a small core part.
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the downside i think was piccolo needed quite a bit of time to regenerate his limbs. I still found it funny after the raditz battle is yeah no my arm is fine
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He literally tore off his damaged arm and regenerated on the spot the first time he showed it off.
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Black August posted:I don't think Namekian regeneration got broken over time, I think Piccolo/Cell are just so goddamn powerful that it works in overdrive compared to your run of the mill Namekian farmer The main thing the regeneration seems to take is stamina/toughness, since it always seems to be excruciatingly painful and exhausting to do it. So theoretically any random Namekian dude could regenerate from just a head but unless they were really loving jacked they'd pass out/die from the pain/exhaustion before being able to do so.
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I thought it was Piccolo's regeneration with Frieza's innate toughness that let Cell regenerate like he does. Frieza survived for some time as literally a head, arm, and torso, and seemed to even be "alive" after being cut into small cubes by Trunks. Piccolo might be tough enough now, but he's not immune to pain. Earlier on in DBZ the shock and exertion might be enough to kill him, but by the end he's probably toughened up a bit.
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Piccolo needed time to regen versus Cell but that was just an excuse so Cell could explain what was going on because he’s literally the only one who knew what was happening
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i wish goku black had gone ssj in the anime like he did in the manga
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Super Saiyan looks goddamn incredible when paired with grays/blacks
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Yes, I also liked Goku's Yardrat outfit.
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sudden easy What-If that comes to mind - someone gets the Dragon Balls, and following the logic of the Dragon Radar, they simply wish to "Always know exactly where the Dragon Balls are". Which becomes a lot more significant if suddenly the wisher realizes they can sense another set on some planet far away, and for some reason they're sensing absolutely gigantic ones impossibly far away.
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Shindragon posted:the downside i think was piccolo needed quite a bit of time to regenerate his limbs. I still found it funny after the raditz battle is yeah no my arm is fine He did not need any time, he could have done it whenever, it's just if he regenerated during the battle with Raditz the drain on his Ki would have prevented him from firing the Special Beam Cannon. CharlestheHammer posted:Piccolo needed time to regen versus Cell but that was just an excuse so Cell could explain what was going on because he’s literally the only one who knew what was happening He was just not doing it versus Cell in order to get Cell to monologue. Once he was finished he did it on the spot.
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Black August posted:sudden easy What-If that comes to mind - someone gets the Dragon Balls, and following the logic of the Dragon Radar, they simply wish to "Always know exactly where the Dragon Balls are". You would think potential easy access to the dragonballs would cause a lot more problems, like just randos wishing for super powers or other bad stupid poo poo
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