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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 How will they know the difference between a "Ukrainian Volunteer Fighter" and a Civilian?
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Thom12255 posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1497244849824677889 Stubb and the political party he represents (National Coalition) have always been pro-NATO though.
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DandyLion posted:how about using armored vehicles to run over civilian Ukranians in their cars as they drive down the street? "Regrettable casualties" "the fog of war" "collateral damage" etc. Whatever evil loving term you need to use to get over killing people unfortunately.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i would probably surrender and take the deal, again presuming the russsians are serious. It's pretty hard to take them seriously after being called a nation made up by Lenin not a week ago.
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Concerned Citizen posted:it is possible that there is a future where russia takes advantage of a neutered ukraine to continue gray zone activities and destabilize ukraine again, but also there is a world where they scream "no surrender" as their country is burned to the ground and ukrainian independence is effectively eliminated. the options are not particularly ideal. i would probably surrender and take the deal, again presuming the russsians are serious. Nations, tribes, and empires have tried to “ eliminate” Ukrainian independence for between 800 to 1000 years depending on how you reckon between Rus, Ruthenian, and ZUNR. How has that worked out?
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freeasinbeer posted:Cspam poster? i wouldnt put it THAT bluntly. coelomate posted:“Russian offensive on Ukraine has lost momentum, Pentagon says” nice. keep fighting the good fight
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coelomate posted:“Russian offensive on Ukraine has lost momentum, Pentagon says” Alternative link, solely because WaPo doesn't know how to make a readable website - https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/02/25/Russia-facing-greater-resistance-than-expected-from-Ukraine-US-defense-official
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pippy posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 What makes you think they care?
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pippy posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 they won't care and this is gonna be a loving horror show. gently caress khardov.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:there were oligarchs criticizing him to his face on russian tv yesterday which is crazy. hes probably lost thier support at this point but that means nothing since, out of general self-preservation, they won't act on it unless putin also loses the FSB and special agents support at which point he would just get praetorian guarded. Honestly my best hope for an outcome for this whole poo poo is a palace coup to get rid of him and install someone new who agrees to take a much less confrontational stance and cede everything back to ukraine in exchange for repealing the sanctions and presumably replacing them with reparations. I hope there is someone in the russian government willing to try and sell it as putin leading the country into ruin and them doing what is necessary for its people.
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TulliusCicero posted:Havin a real normal one in the Kremlin shutting down social media is what you do when you're facing severe social unrest and need to neuter organizing methods fast. Its what Kazakhstan did during its protests, its what the tatmadaw did after taking power in burma, on the side of using it for good (v rare) its what Sri Lanka did to try to prevent race riots and anti-muslim mobs after the Easter Bombings. It is a very bad sign for their assessment of how this is going down at home.
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TulliusCicero posted:What's a Putinist Tankie called at this point? "Post-leftist." The literal most annoying type of person on the internet, imo.
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There Bias Two posted:What makes you think they care? Dollars are going to be in short supply soon I imagine.
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Also I don't think dropping AK-47's is a good idea. Not least because, well, arming people who have no experience of using firearms is likely to result in an awful lot of people either killing their families, each other, or forces on their own side that they are confused about.
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pippy posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 Kadyrov's personal army is famed for its intuition.
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Putin always told Ukraine not to join NATO, and they didn't, and he invaded them. So wtf should anyone else do once Putin starts telling you not to join NATO?
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Relevant Tangent posted:Sinteres I don't like responding to people when they've already been probed, because I think it's bad form, but just to defend myself for a sec, I've said Russia's in the wrong for invading multiple times, and Putin is obviously an awful human being. In no way do I consider myself a Putinist.
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Consequences are getting real for the Russians now: https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/ebu-statement-russia-2022 quote:The European Broadcasting Union (EBU) has announced that no Russian act will participate in this year’s Eurovision Song Contest.
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Ghetto Prince posted:The Baltic states are also part of the EU, which has its own mutual defense treaties and nuclear capability. That's part of why Finland never saw a need to officially join , aside from not wanting to provoke Russia. Finnish PM now says Finland is ready to apply if "it comes to a matter of national security". Russia: Finland’s accession to @NATO would have serious military and political repercussions.
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OwlFancier posted:Honestly my best hope for an outcome for this whole poo poo is a palace coup to get rid of him and install someone new who agrees to take a much less confrontational stance and cede everything back to ukraine in exchange for repealing the sanctions and presumably replacing them with reparations. they would posion him and say that he had a heart attack from working so hard dude, do you not know how russia works at this point.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Germany is apparently now open to banning Russia from SWIFT. can you source this?
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Jordan Peterson level take here where people using the word as it is known and defined in common parlance is NOT what the word actually means! There are like ten mutually exclusive definitions on the last page, and the most correct definition historically, referencing foreign responses to the Hungarian Revolution, has nothing to do with how people have used it in D&D. Don't be an rear end in a top hat. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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DandyLion posted:how about using armored vehicles to run over civilian Ukranians in their cars as they drive down the street? My blood boiled seeing this footage, I hope a javelin is waiting for that BMP just out of frame. Thank god people rushed to the rescue of the driver
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cgeq posted:Putin always told Ukraine not to join NATO, and they didn't, and he invaded them. So wtf should anyone else do once Putin starts telling you not to join NATO? Eh, they tried to, though - it's literally in their constitution that they have to try to join. I think the lesson is, "if you really, really think you can get all the NATO member-states to vote for you to join, join NATO. If not, you can't rely on them." I think it's brave of Finland to say that they might join, but I don't know if that's really on the table for them vis-a-vis existing member-states.
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SourKraut posted:Holy poo poo that Tweet. Is it such a burn really? Sure Finland bloodied the USSRs nose but they eventually capitulated.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Consequences are getting real for the Russians now: If I was a betting man, I would bet that Ukraine wins it this year. All the 12s.
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Nazzadan posted:My blood boiled seeing this footage, I hope a javelin is waiting for that BMP just out of frame. Thank god people rushed to the rescue of the driver That BMP was stopped and the occupant(s?) executed, if it makes you feel better.
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Somaen posted:https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1497222339733467136 Stupid probe, oval office is the correct term. Putin is a oval office. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:they would posion him and say that he had a heart attack from working so hard dude, do you not know how russia works at this point. I do dearly hope that when Putin finally goes that it is by poison. Reap what you sow, you monstrous non-human.
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Edmond Dantes posted:https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1497217148267253760 I've been waiting to say this, but since it's been brought up: If anyone is in a good strategic position with the historical/political inclination to make a move on Moscow, it's Finland and Sweden. Especially if 70% of the army is engaged on the opposite side of the country
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Majorian posted:"Post-leftist." The literal most annoying type of person on the internet, imo.
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Must be going well enough that Zelenskyy can get out of whatever basement he's been working from. (Or fog of war old photos) https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/1496963117288468483?t=BHKPK9RCtNq1t4r6K9iQUw&s=19
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Cabbages and Kings posted:can you source this? https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497240686961336327
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canepazzo posted:That BMP was stopped and the occupant(s?) executed, if it makes you feel better. As horrible as it is to say, yes it does.
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Nazzadan posted:I hope a javelin is waiting for that BMP just out of frame. You can watch the videos on twitter if you want. They were basically alone in hostile territory, lost control, crashed and got shot to death.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Does this matter? I thought Russians used vk russians wanting to read western media use facebook, also putin wants to limit free speech at the moment pippy posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 they put a gun on the body of a civilian and turn them into a volunteer fighters for the photo.
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ijyt posted:Stupid probe, oval office is the correct term. Putin is a oval office. Must have decorum in the war thread. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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pippy posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 This looks like the type of bonus HR gives out to hire certain type of people. Do they also give bonuses for coming under on their bullet budget? Majorian posted:Eh, they tried to, though - it's literally in their constitution that they have to try to join. I think the lesson is, "if you really, really think you can get all the NATO member-states to vote for you to join, join NATO. If not, you can't rely on them." Thanks for the perspective cgeq fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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