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cgeq posted:Seriously... the take I'm getting from all this isn't that Russia sucks at war in particular, it's that all so-called superpowers are far more flimsy than the media would have you believe. I would be worried that this will go to show that conventional warfare is still viable, even against nuclear powers Russia is completely free from military retaliation from Ukraine's allies because they have nukes. If you're just saying that a country acquiring nukes doesn't give a 500% attack bonus to their conventional army units, well I guess that's true.
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Grouchio posted:1. Germany and Italy have switched; who else is left in the EU that opposes a SWIFT ban? Hungary of course.
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Charlotte Hornets posted:https://twitter.com/euromaydan/status/1497260971450056705?s=21 This is extremely explicit. Watch at your own risk. Also extremely sad, I doubt those Russians truly signed up for this.
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The proper response from a country when Putin tells them to not join NATO otherwise there will be consequences should be "You and what army?"
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Both immoral and non-optimal over the long term. It's the classic reasoning of a narcissistic sociopath and narcissistic sociopaths can be individually quite successful but over the long term and across society everyone is better off if nobody does that poo poo. KGB's original assessment of Putin was that he had a "lowered sense of personal danger", and this contributed largely to his selection by Yeltsin and the Family as the needed 'man without a face' to lead Russia forward. (Gessen 2015)
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CommieGIR posted:For those who want it or those who donated to the relief thread, we are working on a gangtag by goon Loden Taylor This is amazing, can you link the relief thread please?
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To explain why an auto factory would shut down for wires: Automotive manufacturers do extensive supplier review/qualification before working with one which can take years - it's not all that easy to just change to a different harnessing supplier. Also these harnesses are likely UL certified, which is nearly impossible to replace with, say, Chinese-produced harnessing as it requires a number of certification tests that aren't commonly done in Chinese factories (I work in automotive supply)
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Mikemo Tyson posted:This is amazing, can you link the relief thread please? Yup! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3994478
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/feb/25/germany-opens-door-barring-russia-swift-interbank-/ The Washington Times is not a source - they're incredibly conservative and publish fully fake and false stuff all the time. Here's someone non-garbage with Germany not saying no but having reservations: https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/germany-open-to-cutting-russia-off-swift-but-must-weigh-consequences-fin-min
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Is there a good write up of what banning Russia from swift would do? I’m not familiar with how banks work.
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Grape posted:You know how growing up you had maybe a friendship with this one guy, and it went way back? Like probably knew the dude since fourth grade and all throughout adolescence? Some close poo poo. You know who his first crush was, you maybe got drunk on a stolen fridge beer together, real close stuff. The Chinese government recognizes, correctly, that the West isn't , like, they're friend. But things are still working out pretty well for them right now, they're on track to becoming the Asian hegemon at the very least, and they aren't interested in this rear end in a top hat tanking bringing China's position in the world down by association. And over loving nothing and with no upside for them
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KitConstantine posted:To explain why an auto factory would shut down for wires: Automotive manufacturers do extensive supplier review/qualification before working with one which can take years - it's not all that easy to just change to a different harnessing supplier. And having worked in producing steel to German industry I can say Germans in particular are extremely anal about certifications.
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Dwesa posted:I thought Orban agreed with sanctions earlier. Is this 'official' line that they present to Hungarians or just some overzealous useful idiots on state TV? He held a speech today morning saying that we condemn the war in Ukraine, but we will continue to trade with Russia. (Side note, Hungarian elections on the 3rd of April...)
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/root_nomad/status/1497254180108570633?s=20&t=v9jh8XUgHXUmdQTtIwm8Ow Russian army morale craters.
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Grouchio posted:1. Germany and Italy have switched; who else is left in the EU that opposes a SWIFT ban? This is my best guess as to what will happen. I'm surprised various ships' registries haven't started issuing safety instructions to their flagged vessels saying "Hey, maybe don't go to the Black Sea for the foreseeable future while Russia keeps shooting at commercial vessels. And maybe don't go to Russian ports at all until they pay out for the ships they've already shot."
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Apparently some gopniks in Kyiv stole a Russian BTR, beat up the crew and went on a little joyride before handing it over to the local forces  https://twitter.com/zynicism/status/1497179475473223682?s=20&t=cJqVaEfFWA15bwZsOS8tRw
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/root_nomad/status/1497254180108570633?s=20&t=v9jh8XUgHXUmdQTtIwm8Ow It would be great if all of Mind Geek did this to.
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Josef bugman posted:Nothing is worth dying for. There are a million things worth living for, but I am a bit weirded out by how many people seem so blasé about their own and other people's lives. There are plenty of things worth dying for, man. Human history bears it out. At least as many humans believe that something is worth dying for as don't.
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 Car narrowly evading not being blown up by MRLS fire in a generic residential area https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1497268652361478146 Tom Clancy is Dead posted:The Washington Times is not a source - they're incredibly conservative and publish fully fake and false stuff all the time. I grabbed the first google hit in English, since I was too lazy to scroll back in the thread to journalist tweets where I got that first.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is there a good write up of what banning Russia from swift would do? I’m not familiar with how banks work. Basically 80% of transactions from Russia to outside it is via SWIFT. Of the entire economy. So instantly a lot of russian companies internally will be hosed overnight.
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Josef bugman posted:Nothing is worth dying for. There are a million things worth living for, but I am a bit weirded out by how many people seem so blasé about their own and other people's lives. while i don't buy into some of the mythmaking that's currently going on (it reminds me of some of the posting around the syrian civil war, which i look back on with mixed feelings), i personally feel some things are worth dying for, if there is no other choice. especially complicity in brutality to others, franz jagerstatter comes to mind
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The_Franz posted:Apparently some gopniks in Kyiv stole a Russian BTR, beat up the crew and went on a little joyride before handing it over to the local forces God bless these track suited men
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Delthalaz posted:The Chinese government recognizes, correctly, that the West isn't , like, they're friend. But things are still working out pretty well for them right now, they're on track to becoming the Asian hegemon at the very least, and they aren't interested in this rear end in a top hat tanking bringing China's position in the world down by association. And over loving nothing and with no upside for them Yeah one key difference between Russia and China is that Russia feels it's place in the world slipping away and feels the need to be disruptive to maintain it, whereas while China doesn't like US hegemony it also sees itself as naturally displacing the US as head of the global order and so would broadly prefer to keep that order intact.
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Mokotow posted:At the border now between Poland and Ukraine. Absolute mess, cold, terrified people coming through every once in a while. Since there’s no organization, me and some likeminded people waiting but despite the government announcements people will be free to go through, only cars are coming. I already have contacts to someone on the other side but they’re saying it’ll be two hours for them to cross. gently caress its cold. Not to backseat mod, but is there a like a "Hero of Ukraine Thread" medal that can be given out for absolute legends like this guy?
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The_Franz posted:Apparently some gopniks in Kyiv stole a Russian BTR, beat up the crew and went on a little joyride before handing it over to the local forces Isn't that the one that was involved in the crash earlier?
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The_Franz posted:Apparently some gopniks in Kyiv stole a Russian BTR, beat up the crew and went on a little joyride before handing it over to the local forces Quick, someone put some hardbass over the clip
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Dopilsya posted:Not to backseat mod, but is there a like a "Hero of Ukraine Thread" medal that can be given out for absolute legends like this guy? Gang tag with honors.
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Nazzadan posted:God bless these track suited men Isn't that just more footage of the vehicle that drove over that car? If so, it's either a pro-Russian fifth column member or a member of a Russian advance unit that got ambushed.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
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Shes Not Impressed posted:[url]https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497279256484888586?s=20&t=RQ4AGQLl9q4MCyLyyr-8aQ Emptying their accounts of hundreds of billions for the benefit of a Ukraine reparations fund would have been more satisfying but ill take it.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:NATO jets and ships on high alert does feel like an escalation I wasn't expecting. The military analysts I occasionally read all are really angsty about Suwalki gap, in the context of deepening military integration between Russia and Belarus.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
I guess I'm broken by Michael Bay becausee I expected a lot more of a blast than that. Looks almost purely kinetic.
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CommieGIR posted:For those who want it or those who donated to the relief thread, we are working on a gangtag by goon Loden Taylor Quoting this to remember to donate (again) when I get home
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https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1497279698027659274 A step up from doing handovers in Polish territory?
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Mokotow posted:At the border now between Poland and Ukraine. Absolute mess, cold, terrified people coming through every once in a while. Since there’s no organization, me and some likeminded people waiting but despite the government announcements people will be free to go through, only cars are coming. I already have contacts to someone on the other side but they’re saying it’ll be two hours for them to cross. gently caress its cold. Oh and yeah, please DM me your PayPal or name/IBAN.
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MeinPanzer posted:Isn't that just more footage of the vehicle that drove over that car? If so, it's either a pro-Russian fifth column member or a member of a Russian advance unit that got ambushed. I retract my god bless then
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TheRat posted:I guess I'm broken by Michael Bay becausee I expected a lot more of a blast than that. Looks almost purely kinetic. As someone mentioned earlier it's almost certainly cluster submunitions. And thats what real explosions are, extreme kinetic force.
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MeinPanzer posted:Isn't that just more footage of the vehicle that drove over that car? If so, it's either a pro-Russian fifth column member or a member of a Russian advance unit that got ambushed. I think the vehicle that drove over the car was fitted with a missile launcher, which I think is usually on a large tower on the back so it can aim up to hit aircraft.
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