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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/SecEvangelism/status/1497305661402664968?s=20&t=mwXemnmDpCfjuW_VZ2HJTg

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Ola
Jul 19, 2004


To add to the above, since NATO is positioning stuff right now it's only natural that the Russians feel like they have to position some stuff to.


ronya posted:

On the Russian FSB and polling: https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1497302149486858241

important not to huff one's own farts about kinetic strikes validating a political outcome fait accompli too much

There's something about the intellectual weakness behind this that I really love. Ignorance of history, confirmation bias, wishful thinking, pseduo science. I'd say idiots like that are never going to win, but lots of dumb assholes got away with terrible things before.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Mokotow posted:

Every once in a while some young dude will come up and ask if in going into Ukraine. These guys are coming back to join the army, but since the crossing is car only, they need to get into somebody’s car. Its all very strange and depressing.


This is the kind of thing I dismissed offhand as propaganda when I saw it on twitter but it really is humbling to see people who have the option to sit this one out actively trying to go back to fight.

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

dominoeffect posted:

Can you give me a rundown on what happened on Jan 6th with China?

Gen. Milley called his Chinese counterpart and told them not to worry. It was all over the news.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



dominoeffect posted:

Can you give me a rundown on what happened on Jan 6th with China?
If I recall, there were conversations between some guy on the Joint Chiefs and his equivalent in China which essentially said, "Yes, this is happening. If he says something idiotic on Twitter, do not assume it is happening" which is of course High Treason against the True Forces of Liberal Owning. Massey? I don't remember his name now.

China was going to offer no aid, of course, but I think that they appreciated the contact-- just in case.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ola posted:

To add to the above, since NATO is positioning stuff right now it's only natural that the Russians feel like they have to position some stuff to.

Again, for the new page: They frequently move these launchers, that was the design. They move them to ensure they cannot be spotted. Normal thing for these launchers.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Nessus posted:

If I recall, there were conversations between some guy on the Joint Chiefs and his equivalent in China which essentially said, "Yes, this is happening. If he says something idiotic on Twitter, do not assume it is happening" which is of course High Treason against the True Forces of Liberal Owning. Massey? I don't remember his name now.

China was going to offer no aid, of course, but I think that they appreciated the contact-- just in case.

I like to think it was a Chen Weihua-type and his counterpart on our side :laffo:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

GABA ghoul posted:

Yeah I doubt this is over after Ukraine. Russia is gonna ramp up hybrid warfare dramatically. More cyberattacks, more murders, more nerve agent attacks, state terrorism, provide weapons, explosives and funding to Nazis and fascists, etc.
So more of that rather than 'imma march into Finland/Baltics for shits and giggles?'

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Orthanc6 posted:

Probably real, it doesn't really matter where they put those, hence INTERCONTINENTAL Ballistic Missile. I imagine they move the mobile launchers around all the time, kind of the point of having them mobile. Honestly if I was Russia (glad I'm not suck it Putin) I would put them in the middle of Siberia and never anywhere near the front or my population centers.

the video it's from says it's for a Russian Victory Parade
https://twitter.com/Arr3ch0/status/1497306758641078281?s=20&t=qRKLNCV6Sd_yMNlj23Yd8g

Seamonster
Apr 30, 2007

IMMER SIEGREICH
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4768049/ukraine-russia-news-kyiv-airport-capture/

no way to verify, etc...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

History is replete with examples of well respected and high ranking military planners staunchly drawing up plans and doctrines that unfortunately fail to reflect reality. It would be weird to think that it did not continue into the modern day.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008


That's from yesterday.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Warning for Russian apologia but the Irish news had the Russian Ambassador on for a chat if you want to hear their diplomatic line. The last 45 seconds are particularly interesting

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1497283552014213122?t=kk8Fc7GTZof0wfqr6MGHjA&s=19

"Ambassador, at least for now"

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

dominoeffect posted:

Can you give me a rundown on what happened on Jan 6th with China?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58581296

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

If that is a mobile launcher the whole point of them is to move, it's like submarines.

And since it's mobile it could be doing anything including driving to a service depot for maintenance. There might not even be a missile in the drat thing.

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing

Orthanc6 posted:

Probably real, it doesn't really matter where they put those, hence INTERCONTINENTAL Ballistic Missile. I imagine they move the mobile launchers around all the time, kind of the point of having them mobile. Honestly if I was Russia (glad I'm not suck it Putin) I would put them in the middle of Siberia and never anywhere near the front or my population centers.

Russia would put them between a school and a hospital if they felt they were threatened.

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

the propaganda shots with captured western equipment is already rolling in

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497296039673536513

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

FishBulbia posted:

the propaganda shots with captured western equipment is already rolling in

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497296039673536513

Eh, who cares. Russia has plenty of modern equipment.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Yeah many plans dissolve at first contact and all that.

Caen was a D-Day (June 6th 1944) objective for the Allies. It ended up being captured around July 20th. People plan but reality gives zero shits.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1497309223155220482?s=20&t=_FYfLlIURIExY0FFf6iECA

Going to be a tough night

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008

FishBulbia posted:

the propaganda shots with captured western equipment is already rolling in

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497296039673536513

took em a while

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

BigglesSWE posted:

Yeah many plans dissolve at first contact and all that.

Caen was a D-Day (June 6th 1944) objective for the Allies. It ended up being captured around July 20th. People plan but reality gives zero shits.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1497309173498875907?s=20&t=jAAAi8bKWr01EGRdfe4t6g

https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1497299847350833157?s=20&t=jAAAi8bKWr01EGRdfe4t6g

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

acidx posted:

Russia would put them between a school and a hospital if they felt they were threatened.

No, they'd put them in the infinite siberian tundra

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

FishBulbia posted:

the propaganda shots with captured western equipment is already rolling in

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497296039673536513

Holy poo poo, they got ONE!

Wrap it up comrades, time to head home!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

BigglesSWE posted:

Yeah many plans dissolve at first contact and all that.

Caen was a D-Day (June 6th 1944) objective for the Allies. It ended up being captured around July 20th. People plan but reality gives zero shits.

Not even that but like, that one guy who decided the US didn't need machine guns right up until they joined the first world war. Second world war british cavalry tank doctrine, american ordnance insisting there was nothing wrong with the torpedoes and you just aren't shooting them right.

Institutional bias can get a lot of people killed before it gets picked up on and fixed.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006


Stoltenberg is full of poo poo.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



KitConstantine posted:

Warning for Russian apologia but the Irish news had the Russian Ambassador on for a chat if you want to hear their diplomatic line. The last 45 seconds are particularly interesting

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1497283552014213122?t=kk8Fc7GTZof0wfqr6MGHjA&s=19

"Ambassador, at least for now"

https://twitter.com/JWeber988/status/1497292645873377285?s=20

Freudian slippers
Jun 23, 2009
US Goon shocked and appalled to find that world is a dirty, unjust place

Mooseontheloose posted:

I know during the Cuba Missile Crisis the US still had people they could trust in the Kremlin to tell them what's going on. Does that still exist now? Like if Putin said, let's attack Poland does he have any generals that would stop him?

The CIA had people who routinely were in the same room as Putin. Then Trump and Putin talked privately. Some of those people were exfiltrated to safety, some were disappeared. It should have been the end of Trump's presidency, instead it was Tuesday.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

TheRat posted:

No, they'd put them in the infinite siberian tundra

Nothing a few GLG-20 Foreign Service Operatives couldn't handle easily

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

TheRat posted:

Stoltenberg is full of poo poo.

Putin DDOS Pizza Hut? Time to let the nukes rip.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

MiddleOne posted:

Putin DDOS Pizza Hut? Time to let the nukes rip.

Dominos stands alone.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

CommieGIR posted:

Dominos stands alone.

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PROMISES, PAPA JOHN?!?!?

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



MiddleOne posted:

Putin DDOS Pizza Hut? Time to let the nukes rip.

I'd go to war for that new Spicy Lover's pizza they have. Punches way above Pizza Hut's paygrade

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Sirens. Lots of explosions and gunfire reported near kyiv center

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Eric Cantonese posted:

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PROMISES, PAPA JOHN?!?!?

gently caress you beat me to a Papa Johns joke!

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Security council press conference/media stakeout starting now

They're holding the flag of Ukraine

https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1d/k1dcs4kagu

Edit: Looking like it's just a photo op at the moment

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Shes Not Impressed posted:

Sirens. Lots of explosions and gunfire reported near kyiv center

Do you have a source for this?

E:VVVV Thank you

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Kalit posted:

Do you have a source for this?

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497311810990526472?s=20&t=Lc01y8aIoJiNVEcWNZDmiA

https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1497310162595418117?s=20&t=Lc01y8aIoJiNVEcWNZDmiA

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1497311081538195463?s=20&t=Lc01y8aIoJiNVEcWNZDmiA

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497310407303868416?s=20&t=Lc01y8aIoJiNVEcWNZDmiA

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dominoeffect
Oct 1, 2013

KitConstantine posted:

Warning for Russian apologia but the Irish news had the Russian Ambassador on for a chat if you want to hear their diplomatic line. The last 45 seconds are particularly interesting

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1497283552014213122?t=kk8Fc7GTZof0wfqr6MGHjA&s=19

"Ambassador, at least for now"

Thanks for sharing. Wow. Good on that host for grilling him with those questions. He seems like he's inviting his own expulsion with that answer, "well, that's a good question... maybe you should ask your government that question".

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