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alg posted:if she actually follows through this is huge right? Russia loses easy access to Kyiv in the north and their supply chain breaks she has no power to do anything lol
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sean10mm posted:Picnic table didn't stop a tandem HEAT warhead spewing jets of molten metal? Big if true. Those don’t work against tandem systems really. They are far more effective against older RPG-7s, and I am assuming the Russians did not plan for the number of javelin systems NATO has actually delivered. I feel like they prepared on the assumption Ukraine would not actually have many current generation portal anti-tank weapons.
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alg posted:if she actually follows through this is huge right? Russia loses easy access to Kyiv in the north and their supply chain breaks I'm not sure she's actually, like, in Belarus. She might be government in exile type thing? still one more thing for Putin to worry about.
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happyhippy posted:They know they hosed up. Simple as. I agree with this. The absolute best case scenario for Russia now is a bloody slaughter of a plucky, globally-sympathetic country defending its sovereignty, costing Russia untold amounts of billions in economic setbacks. The original plan of “keep lying until we surprise the world by taking Kyiv’s airport and decapitating the government in one day” got hosed hard. MadJackal fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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alg posted:if she actually follows through this is huge right? Russia loses easy access to Kyiv in the north and their supply chain breaks being internationally recognized as belarus' leader is completely symbolic, especially since Belarus is already isolated from the world and essentially a satellite state of Russia suince the lukashenko protests. she could i guess take advantage of the fact that russia's troops are elsewhere like people have been speculating for former-ussr states except they're not elsewhere they're in belarus and nobody there's going to try anything with that happening.
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This looks to be the reason Russian armour isn't getting through to Kyiv. Not NMS, but burning vehicles in background: https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1497590607899992066 e: already posted. But I agree with the comment that this is a 'morale is high' kind of video.
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DaysBefore posted:She's in exile in Lithuania (I think) right now. Honestly the most surprising thing is that she hasn't committed double-gunshot suicide yet. Good luck to her but there's not much hope to cling to there. welp
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alg posted:if she actually follows through this is huge right? Russia loses easy access to Kyiv in the north and their supply chain breaks No, she's trying to become th Belarussian Guaido. Nothing changes on the ground.
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alg posted:if she actually follows through this is huge right? Russia loses easy access to Kyiv in the north and their supply chain breaks Belarus is a dictatorship. Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya is the president of a protest-group.
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Alchenar posted:It's all leaks and rumour. Quite rightly nobody is calling out who the holdouts are/were because when you are doing serious diplomacy behind closed doors between friends that kind of behaviour isn't helpful. Thanks. I know there is a lot of wariness resorting to a measure that will drive the Russians toward an alternative non-dollar denominated mechanism.
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Dunno if that Z poo poo really meant Zapadnyi Voenni Okrug (Western Military District) or just glorious mil propaganda branding ala "polite people" because 22.02.2022 but we got a new moron marker back at home https://twitter.com/nyk_konev/status/1497579526473277440 eat the loving eggs zorro
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Full commit on propaganda https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1497589083035648006 Domestic propaganda focused on localized Donbass fighting, now they're fullying saying that they'll commit fully to the invasion. Worse to come I fear.
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FishBulbia posted:Insane footage from the outskirts of Ivankov Aside from this and short pieces on Khrakiv and Kherson I've seen basically no footage of the regular Ukranian Army doing anything, which I guess is a good thing thing because it means their media blackout might be working?
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the popes toes posted:Thanks. I know there is a lot of wariness resorting to a measure that will drive the Russians toward an alternative non-dollar denominated mechanism. If they do, they are setting themselves up to become the client state of whichever power takes ownership of this alternative system, so that's a loss. It won't be like their little Eurasian economic club.
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FishBulbia posted:Insane footage from the outskirts of Ivankov This isn’t some fresh conscript. Has to be a veteran of the Donbass war or something. That’s a professional soldier.
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From pro-russian account https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1497582704753356801 pro- Ukrainian https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497592565624832004
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Once I said I was afraid of how Ukraine would do vs tank columns I stand corrected. The Ukrainian civil defense force does seem to be winning against the 4th guards tank divisions. Also I wonder how much of an effect the constant boozing and poo poo the Russians is having. I mean they go from drinking themselves stupid to being unable to find alcohol. It's probably loving horrible for some of these guys to be withdrawing while getting javelins to the torso. How can you fight like this gently caress
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KitConstantine posted:Not going great in the north maybe. War is horrific.
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sean10mm posted:Big problem would be Ukraine using a bunch of Soviet era stuff that isn't interoperable with NATO gear. That was my assumption and, being pissed on behalf of General Dynamics who makes Patriot Missiles, one of the reasons the US was irked that Turkey agreed to by S-400s from Russia. Still, I don’t know how else to explain how the Russians have so far failed to destroy or damage Ukraine’s air defense network enough that the Russian Air Force cannot bring its overwhelming force superiority to bear and dominate the air over the battlefield.
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Russia should have tried their anti-prop push a bit earlier. https://twitter.com/ngumenyuk/status/1497592850535563268?t=4ABVfOe3-N0a7vaG_Ei3yg&s=19
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Also I wonder how much of an effect the constant boozing and poo poo the Russians is having. I mean they go from drinking themselves stupid to being unable to find alcohol. It's probably loving horrible for some of these guys to be withdrawing while getting javelins to the torso. C'mon dude.
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Even a regime change in Belarus or Lukaschenko having the biggest 180 in human history isn't going to change a thing. Putin will just hold up a chart saying "what is a belarus anyway?" and keep his troops exactly where they are, there is no way to force them from their positions.
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FishBulbia posted:Full commit on propaganda https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1497590265737097217 https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1497582704753356801 it was always a given that Ukraine would hunker down in the cities and pick their fights rather than try to match Russian numbers in the countryside, so that announcement is perhaps more intended as a morale booster for Russian forces
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FishBulbia posted:Full commit on propaganda "OK, That's it! Now I'm REALLY mad."
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DaysBefore posted:Aside from this and short pieces on Khrakiv and Kherson I've seen basically no footage of the regular Ukranian Army doing anything, which I guess is a good thing thing because it means their media blackout might be working? I also think the fighting is serious enough for Ukrainian regular army that soldiers are not really prioritizing taking video of it on their phones.
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DaysBefore posted:Aside from this and short pieces on Khrakiv and Kherson I've seen basically no footage of the regular Ukranian Army doing anything, which I guess is a good thing thing because it means their media blackout might be working? Ukranian social media was completely covered in 'don't even think about posting operational footage of ukranian forces and positions' early on and footage is getting rapidly reported and taken down, though no one is even sure who all is responsible for that last bit. Who knows what it all means.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Ukranian social media was completely covered in 'don't even think about posting operational footage of ukranian forces and positions' early on and footage is getting rapidly reported and taken down, though no one is even sure who all is responsible for that last bit. Taking down intel-breaches on american-owned social media is something nato/us could definitely be assisting with.
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TheRat posted:Taking down intel-breaches on american-owned social media is something nato/us could definitely be assisting with. nah the stuff being taken down is non-english, presumably it's ukranians or russians doing it. Each side has their own reasons for wanting stuff down. it's possible the us or some other party in nato (or someone else sympathetic to russia for that matter), but idk that's a lot of speculation when both immediate parties have a reason to want footage down.
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So for all the military minded people here, does Ukraine start taking down more bridges and roads to prolong Russian logistics at some point? Or is that a no go because it would strand other parts of the country?
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Ukr defense source confirm snake island did surrender https://www.facebook.com/100066866381279/posts/285013563737521/?d=n
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FishBulbia posted:Combined with the claims of military targets in cities being reported by state media, I think the war is about to enter a scary phase. It’s already in the scary phase, frankly; however, we are entering the phase where the greatest likelihood of a miscalculation on Putin’s part leads to something far more dangerous.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Ukranian social media was completely covered in 'don't even think about posting operational footage of ukranian forces and positions' early on and footage is getting rapidly reported and taken down, though no one is even sure who all is responsible for that last bit. Makes sense, and even the pieces I did see were like two minute videos from CNN and the Telegram. And in the former the CNN guy was like 'the Ukranian Army tells us to gently caress off whenever we try to film them' anyway so that all checks out.
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Mooseontheloose posted:So for all the military minded people here, does Ukraine start taking down more bridges and roads to prolong Russian logistics at some point? Or is that a no go because it would strand other parts of the country? https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1497592156738965509 To an extent, but the Russians are probably as stretched as they reasonably can be by their decision to bypass major urban areas.
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https://twitter.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/1497593575508525064 in which the CNN correspondent really just continues doing laps around the Russian side of the border, it seems I guess it's not secret but still Filed under 'concerning': https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497593593388752896 https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497595354031669248
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Ukranian social media was completely covered in 'don't even think about posting operational footage of ukranian forces and positions' early on and footage is getting rapidly reported and taken down, though no one is even sure who all is responsible for that last bit. I've seen one of fighter accounts on twitter asking wherabouts of a lady that documented ukraine movements from her window and posted them on youtube, they were provided very swiftly. Doxxing people is very easy and sometimes it is easier to engage the leakers in material world so to speak.
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Vahakyla posted:This isn’t some fresh conscript. Has to be a veteran of the Donbass war or something. That’s a professional soldier. Makes sense, the UK delivered the NLAWs only like 2-3 weeks ago, would be the smart choice to train veterans in their use first. Also, UK isn't getting nearly enough credit. They supplied 2000 of these weapons, and they are doing good work.
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