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At first, I was put off by the "lesbian necromancers in space" line until I saw that it was from a Charlie Stross blurb
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# ? Feb 7, 2022 15:37 |
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Can somebody point out to me the "memes" that people keep talking about in these books? I didn't really notice anything like that. Maybe I'm already out of touch with the youth. I mean I got the references in Wake's full name and also the coffee shop AU joke. But those seemed more like regular jokes than memes as such.
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 10:04 |
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I think I remember direct uses of both "none pizza with left beef" and "while you were x, I was studying the blade" in the first book
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 10:37 |
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Oof my bones
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:09 |
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I think the hi i'm dad joke is close enough to be a meme
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:20 |
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Oh totes
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:25 |
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There's probably, idk, a dozen? It's just such a weird thing to do, but it is put across well did you don't particularly notice
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:27 |
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cool s and miette
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:44 |
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she hasn't done loss yet and when she does it's going to literally kill some readers
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 11:45 |
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tamsyn is 100% allowed to kill me with loss and give my bones to the 9th house
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 12:01 |
Sitting Here posted:tamsyn is 100% allowed to kill me with loss and give my bones to the 9th house Gideon enters the tomb Ianthe tries to stop her at the entrance Cam explains why this is a terrible idea before the salt lake Gideon reaches the divine corpse, but the soul she seeks has already escaped...
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 14:16 |
M_Gargantua posted:Gideon enters the tomb
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 14:31 |
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cool it with the alecto spoilers please
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 14:54 |
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Sailor Viy posted:Can somebody point out to me the "memes" that people keep talking about in these books? I didn't really notice anything like that. Maybe I'm already out of touch with the youth. I mean I got the references in Wake's full name and also the coffee shop AU joke. But those seemed more like regular jokes than memes as such. Everything's looking up
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 15:37 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Gideon enters the tomb
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 20:51 |
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Sister Glaurica died on the way back to her home planet
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 21:02 |
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"Well, jail for mother"
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 21:57 |
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I mean, the obvious joke is that the loss joke leads to Jod in the tomb, and his final words before he's sealed forever is "is this?"
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 22:15 |
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A reference I didn't get at first and now I can't track down the source: When Sextus meets amnesia-Harrow in his construct and asks her about her cavalier and Harrow says that her cavalier is the furnace that burns her lyctorhood, Sextus says "how God takes-and takes-and takes" I could swear I came across this phrase in reading about a historic figure who wrote in his diary when his wife and son died that "God gives, and he takes, and he takes, and he takes." But now I can't find the source for that, except that the same line is repeated in a (great) Sufjan Stevens song and I could easily see Sufjan coming across the same source material. So does anybody know that source? Maybe I dreamed it.
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# ? Feb 11, 2022 23:57 |
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Notahippie posted:A reference I didn't get at first and now I can't track down the source: When Sextus meets amnesia-Harrow in his construct and asks her about her cavalier and Harrow says that her cavalier is the furnace that burns her lyctorhood, Sextus says "how God takes-and takes-and takes" it's a Hamilton line, too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZH8TyHUzRQ
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 00:00 |
“The land that shall receive thee dying, in the same will I die: and there will I be buried. The Lord do so and so to me, and add more also, if aught but death part me and thee" however is just straight from Ruth.
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 00:50 |
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ive said this before in this very thread but if no one in this series ever faces god and walks backwards into hell (zoo animals optional, but preferred) i will be very upset
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 02:49 |
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That definitely sounds like a thing Gideon would do. Or possibly Ianthe.
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 15:51 |
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Senerio posted:I mean, the obvious joke is that the loss joke leads to Jod in the tomb, and his final words before he's sealed forever is "is this?"
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 20:13 |
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Maybe there's some extended loss joke across the series and that's why she needed four books. Four panels. Four... Covers? Surely not.
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 20:14 |
90s Cringe Rock posted:Maybe there's some extended loss joke across the series and that's why she needed four books. Four panels. Four... Gideon was one soul, Harrow was two souls, I think we can assume that Nona is one soul but in the wrong body (alternately its one + one dog), and Alecto is one dead soul. So yes
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# ? Feb 12, 2022 21:13 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Gideon enters the tomb Senerio posted:I mean, the obvious joke is that the loss joke leads to Jod in the tomb, and his final words before he's sealed forever is "is this?" gently caress me, this is so good. Now it just needs to be Harrow laying on her side, huddled around the sword
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# ? Feb 14, 2022 21:57 |
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Listened to the audio books of Gideon and Harrow over the last couple of weeks, and all I can say is, I bet Harrow would have been infinitely more confusing if the second person parts weren't being read in Gideon's register.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 14:43 |
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CottonWolf posted:Listened to the audio books of Gideon and Harrow over the last couple of weeks, and all I can say is, I bet Harrow would have been infinitely more confusing if the second person parts weren't being read in Gideon's register. ... that explains how my friend who's listening to the series blind figured it out "just from the narration" within a couple pages of starting the book...
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:44 |
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I mean it's partly because the reaction to kissing Ianthe is pure unadulterated Gideon too.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:56 |
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CottonWolf posted:Listened to the audio books of Gideon and Harrow over the last couple of weeks, and all I can say is, I bet Harrow would have been infinitely more confusing if the second person parts weren't being read in Gideon's register. Audiobooks are inherently spoilerific when it comes to anything like this. Same thing happens with the audiobook for Sanderson's Hero of Ages too. What I'm curious to know is how picking this up early affected your emotional reactions as a reader. Did it take away from the climax when the reveal is confirmed in text? Or did it change how you read the earlier parts of the book, when you know the twist early on?
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 21:53 |
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I had the book version, not audiobook, and I won't be so bold to say (Harrow spoilers) I totally figured it out when I started reading Harrow, but I had a very strong suspicion. It made the whole thing more interesting, maybe, because I was really interested in finding out how Gideon had "survived".
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 04:27 |
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CottonWolf posted:Listened to the audio books of Gideon and Harrow over the last couple of weeks, and all I can say is, I bet Harrow would have been infinitely more confusing if the second person parts weren't being read in Gideon's register. See, this didn’t spoil me because I’ve listened to so many audiobooks in series like Stephen Briggs reading all of PTerry’s stuff. I thought that was just the normal “flat” voice of the narrator, which is why it was the primary voice in Gideon’s book. I wasn’t blindsided when the reveal was made, but not from the voice, I think the penny dropped for me after the meeting with Sextus in the River
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DreamingofRoses posted:See, this didn’t spoil me because I’ve listened to so many audiobooks in series like Stephen Briggs reading all of PTerry’s stuff. I thought that was just the normal “flat” voice of the narrator, which is why it was the primary voice in Gideon’s book. I wasn’t blindsided when the reveal was made, but not from the voice, I think the penny dropped for me after the meeting with Sextus in the River Yeah that's where I got it too.
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# ? Feb 27, 2022 04:58 |
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Leng posted:Audiobooks are inherently spoilerific when it comes to anything like this. Same thing happens with the audiobook for Sanderson's Hero of Ages too. The question switched from “Who is this?” to “Under what context is it them?” I imagine it changed how I was experiencing both halves of the book, but I don’t know that it made my experience worse (though of course that’s an impossible counterfactual). The eventual explanation was satisfying, and that’s all you can really ask for in books like this. I didn’t work out exactly what was going on with alternate Canaan House for example, but given that Gideon was clearly “alive”/present in one half of the book, it certainly shut down some possibilities. My guess up until quite late was some kind of parallel timelines. I’d spotted that it was only the people who’d died, but didn’t manage to follow that through to the answer. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 2, 2022 |
# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:54 |
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More theorizing with HtN spoilers: so I was looking at the descriptions of the Resurrection Beasts again, and so far they’ve killed the ghosts of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn (I’m very disappointed that one wasn’t Uranus with the sphincters), and Neptune, assuming that it takes place in our system (they do line up with the descriptions, largely). Has there been any discussion of the revenant of Earth being trapped in its corpse on the planet of the First House? That’s what I’m guessing.
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# ? Mar 8, 2022 16:53 |
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I mean they've all but said Jod is a resurrection beast...
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# ? Mar 8, 2022 21:12 |
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I'm not familiar with that name.
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# ? Mar 8, 2022 21:18 |
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sebmojo posted:I'm not familiar with that name. Just a shorthand for the Necrolord Prime, the King Undying, John Gaius himself
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In the sack, right? In the sack, right?
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 10:01 |